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Daughter’s head of year and tit for tat

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ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 15:53

My daughter has been struggling at school a while, we are in the UK she is in year 10. She is academically very bright but has ADHD and struggles in the loud busy environment of school and with her mental health. Currently looking at taking her out of school as I feel like I’m losing her.
I have been upfront with the school the whole way through and their support has been well limited at best. They always promise the right things but don’t actually act on it.
Last week my daughter was crying in class got sent to head of year and then the head of year sent her back to class while still crying. She went to the toilet on way back and had a panic attack and was in there for half an hour and no one knew she was missing, until a friend lunch break said she was to a teacher, I raised this a safeguarding complaint.
Fast forward to yesterday we had a meeting with the school and all seemed like we had reached an agreement on a plan for my daughter. There was me, my partner and 4 teachers in the room.
The head of year said she wanted to walk us out so we ended up walking out just one on one with her. To which point she said “daughter has a tik tok account which is public and it’s a safeguarding issue” using my words back at me in my complaint. She said it all smarmy and in a way that was definitely in retaliation to my complaint about her.
The thing is my daughter does have a TikTok which I do follow but it is anonymous, it has no picture on it, it has no last name on it, it has no location on it and she doesn’t post any videos so it’s not obvious in anyway it’s her apart from the first name. So how did the head of year come to find this tik tok and know it was my daughter? Also is it really her place to bring this up as a safeguarding issue? It’s the way she said it so smugly like she had one up on us. Also the legal age for tik tok is 13 and my daughter is 15. I have access to her phone and she’s a mature young trustworthy girl I know she doesn’t have another account apart from the one I know about.
It’s really annoyed me as it just felt very much aimed at me because of my safe guarding complaint.

OP posts:
MissAustenMadeAQuilt · 04/03/2026 17:23

Why was your daughter crying in class to the extent that she was sent to the Head of Year?

Why did her panic attack lead to her gong to the loo and staying/hiding there for half an hour instead of going straight back to class as she had been told to do.

Did she apologise to the teacher for not obeying her instruction and offering up her panic attack as to why she did this? Did you?

Do you think it is easy for a teacher trying to teach her subject to a class studying for an exam and to also have to deal with a girl who is crying in class and refuses to follow instructions?

Why do you think a 15 year old girl hiding in the loo for 30 minutes is a safeguarding issue?

How did the teacher find her Tik Tok account if it only has her first name? Unless her name is Esmerelda Diamond Greeneye, how on earth did she know it was there? Was it just a lucky guess? If it was, ask her for the Lottery numbers!

You won't be the only parent to be duped.

Have you had a word with your daughter about all this or do you think she is entirely blameless?

CeciliaMars · 04/03/2026 17:23

Wow. You sound like you really dislike the school and the teachers. I wouldn't see it as a safeguarding complaint that your Year 10 daughter was in the loo for too long. Teachers have lots of training on safeguarding around internet issues, so presumably were only trying to be helpful. If this is how you feel about the school, I would suggest you move her and try to work with her new school to support your child.

5128gap · 04/03/2026 17:21

ShanghaiDiva · 04/03/2026 16:46

And how will this help..why copy in the head?
accounts set to public are a potential safeguarding issue.

The teacher has suggested there is a safeguarding concern about which the OP is unaware. How in the world would it NOT help for the OP to know what this is rather than have to speculate from hints?
She should copy in the head because in the event she is correct and the teacher was making baseless remarks, well, it's not very helpful of her, is it? If the teacher was acting appropriately there's nothing to be concerned about in the head knowing, is there?

FakeTwix · 04/03/2026 17:19

Presumably she chose the 1 on 1 time to mention it for a reason - maybe not to alert dd that she was giving you the heads up?

It seems highly unlikely that an experienced member of staff from a secondary school would be trying to raise that your dd has a blank anonymous and unused tik tok account (whats the point? Why isn't it private? What's she exposed to?). Far far more likely that they are aware that your dd is sharing or interacting or connecting in a concerning way.

You are directing your energy in the wrong places imo. Your year 10 child is crying in class, wandering corridors, hiding in toilets and having panic attacks. There is clearly something really wrong going on for her. I would very much want to hear about anything at all that could be going on for them and affecting them negatively, including online. I would not be directing my ire and thoughts to how a teacher said something.

FlowerFairyDaisy · 04/03/2026 17:16

ShanghaiDiva · 04/03/2026 17:02

no wonder teachers leave the profession- HOY accompanies parent to the exit - standard procedure as adults are not permitted to wander around the school unaccompanied- gives advice re TikTok account and safeguarding and your opinion is that op’s Dd should be safeguarded from someone like that…
how dare teachers offer advice and support!

Of course parents can exit a school unaccompanied. I've never once been accompanied out of a school after a meeting.

I suspect the OP would have understood if the HoY's intentions were good. She could have raised the TikTok thing in the meeting.

The same woman sent a distressed young person who is already struggling in school straight back to class. The girl was so upset that she hid in the toilets.

In all walks of life there are unkind people. It's ridiculous and frankly dangerous to assume that all teachers are good, kind people just because they are teachers.

Mymanyellow · 04/03/2026 17:11

If it’s only your dds first name how does the HOY know it’s her? Bearing in mind I know nothing about TikTok, unless your dd has a really unusual name how did she find it?

Cauliflowershow · 04/03/2026 17:09

I've seen teachers being smarmy from both within the staff room and as a parent. It's a very difficult position to be in. Once a teacher takes a dislike to you or your child or your child's needs it's hard to win. Is it a one off?, can you let it go?, are there enough teachers to dilute the one/s being awkward?, or is it symptomatic of a situation with several teacher/s? Unless a new head teacher is imminently coming into the school and forcing a culture change you might need to consider changing school. We did once when a class teacher started picking on one of ours and we didn't regret it.

ShanghaiDiva · 04/03/2026 17:06

SchoolReading · 04/03/2026 16:57

Because she did it outside of the meeting where the rest of the staff were. It feels underhand. She sent an upset child back out of her room to go back to class. The head of year who I got to know really well at my child's school would never have done this.

@ThisNewCyanBiscuit I would do exactly what @5128gap said and question it in a paper trail.

I assume the meeting was to address the issue of child going back to class (or in fact no going back to class) upset. If the outcome of this meeting was satisfactory then it seems sensible to move on rather than create drama over a safeguarding comment.

Snowyowl99 · 04/03/2026 17:04

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:10

That’s what I mean it is completely anonymous it could be anyone in the whole of the UK with my daughter’s name! No picture, no location nothing.
yes I do agree that because the meeting was positive I should just drop it. It just felt like such an underhand comment. Like she either wanted to stir trouble or she had been snooping herself.

She's probably got another account you don't know about

ShanghaiDiva · 04/03/2026 17:02

FlowerFairyDaisy · 04/03/2026 16:52

It's called an opinion and a view on the OP's experience.

You can disagree but really you're bonkers if you can't understand that.

no wonder teachers leave the profession- HOY accompanies parent to the exit - standard procedure as adults are not permitted to wander around the school unaccompanied- gives advice re TikTok account and safeguarding and your opinion is that op’s Dd should be safeguarded from someone like that…
how dare teachers offer advice and support!

Pippa12 · 04/03/2026 17:01

TesChique · 04/03/2026 16:40

There job? Where job???

😂 You got me! Clever you!

Pippa12 · 04/03/2026 17:01

You definitely need to ask the HOY how she knows about it? Could she be getting your daughter’s account mixed up with another pupil? In which case, the other pupils parents might need approaching about something?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 04/03/2026 16:59

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:54

I am on it currently I have the log in. No picture, no videos, just first name, no location, it could be anyone in the Uk with that name!

She could have another phone.

Or perhaps the HOD asked her friends. Do her friends know about it?

godmum56 · 04/03/2026 16:59

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:42

She definitely doesn’t have another account, like I say I have access to her phone and to the parenting kids360 app. I can see what apps my children have and what accounts are set up on them.

so how did the HOY know about it?

Rainraingoawaydontcomeback · 04/03/2026 16:58

You need to focus on what your child is struggling with.
Is he medicated? Does it need adjusting?
Does she have an ECHP? If not apply for an ECHNA yourself.
Is she recieving any mental health support? School can usually refer to level 1 services which are often able to see her fairly quickly.

Megifer · 04/03/2026 16:57

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:54

I am on it currently I have the log in. No picture, no videos, just first name, no location, it could be anyone in the Uk with that name!

Thats why you could do with the HoY help with knowing how they know about the TikTok account.

Could be someone's told the HoY but its so common for 15 y/o I cant imagine a pupil telling her.

SchoolReading · 04/03/2026 16:57

ShanghaiDiva · 04/03/2026 16:46

And how will this help..why copy in the head?
accounts set to public are a potential safeguarding issue.

Because she did it outside of the meeting where the rest of the staff were. It feels underhand. She sent an upset child back out of her room to go back to class. The head of year who I got to know really well at my child's school would never have done this.

@ThisNewCyanBiscuit I would do exactly what @5128gap said and question it in a paper trail.

OhWhatABeautifulDay · 04/03/2026 16:56

On Tiktok, can you see what other users have liked? Or who their friends/followers are?

There will be people in your DD's class that she has interracted with on Tiktok.

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:56

KaleidoscopeSmile · 04/03/2026 16:42

"She said it all smarmy"
"She said it so smugly"

Honestly, grow up!

I’m 42 I’m grown up enough to know how something was said to me and in what way.

OP posts:
NimbleMauveRobin · 04/03/2026 16:55

You haven't explained why your daughter was upset. Perhaps the Hoy thought there was no good reason why she should be out of class. Your daughter decided she didn't want to return so hid in toilets. She is 15. She knows she should not do this. You have cited Adhd and mental health but give no evidence about this. Perhaps the hoy feels you are making excuses for your daughter who doesn't want to do as she is told. Sorry to be harsh but this is probably how the hoy is thinking. I am surprised nothing is already in place for a child who really needs support.

OhWhatABeautifulDay · 04/03/2026 16:55

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:54

I am on it currently I have the log in. No picture, no videos, just first name, no location, it could be anyone in the Uk with that name!

So is the HOY psychic, or something?

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:55

LadyOfLymeHouse · 04/03/2026 16:49

Focus on your child ffs.

I am hence why I’ve spent many hours in meetings with the school. And also why I complained about the head of year in the first place.

OP posts:
ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:54

OhWhatABeautifulDay · 04/03/2026 16:52

Well then, your DD's Tiktok clearly isn't as untraceable as you think it is.

I am on it currently I have the log in. No picture, no videos, just first name, no location, it could be anyone in the Uk with that name!

OP posts:
FlowerFairyDaisy · 04/03/2026 16:52

ShanghaiDiva · 04/03/2026 16:49

That’s quite the jump…now the OP’s Dd needs safeguarding from the HOY?
bonkers!

It's called an opinion and a view on the OP's experience.

You can disagree but really you're bonkers if you can't understand that.

OhWhatABeautifulDay · 04/03/2026 16:52

ThisNewCyanBiscuit · 04/03/2026 16:42

She definitely doesn’t have another account, like I say I have access to her phone and to the parenting kids360 app. I can see what apps my children have and what accounts are set up on them.

Well then, your DD's Tiktok clearly isn't as untraceable as you think it is.