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Would you pull a sickie for a pre-booked trip?

144 replies

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 11:10

I’ve had a really shite time lately with some family events and my mental health.

My lovely partner today surprised me with a long weekend to my favourite city in Europe in April. It’s been booked.

he didn’t think anything of booking it as he knew I had loads of annual leave (will need to book the Friday off) and I’m over the moon. The only problem is, my department requires us to work 1 in every 4 Saturdays and my Saturday has fallen when we’re supposed to go away.

they are usually fine to book any annual leave but there’s a strict rule that you have to do your Saturdays, no exception. It was an oversight on my partner’s part and he’s very apologetic.

The trip isn’t really refundable, he got a fab deal on the hotel and that part is refundable but the flights which make up 80% of what he’s paid are non-refundable. We couldn’t really afford to re-book.

Saturday shifts at my job are also notoriously busy and stressful.

I’ve had such an awful time lately and really need this trip to look forward to. WIBU to pull a sickie on the Saturday?

OP posts:
MammaBear1 · 04/03/2026 12:59

I wouldn’t. I’d feel forever like I’d be found out.

Also, how will your Saturday be covered? Will one of your colleagues be called in to do it at short notice, ruining plans they have?

Ninerainbows · 04/03/2026 12:58

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 12:55

There was a big, well-known drama a couple of months ago over a Saturday swap.

Ann had requested a shift swap in the group-chat so she could have a weekend away for a milestone birthday. Julie had nothing planned that Saturday so said yes. Julie’s daughter then got invited to a major audition that day and suddenly Julie wanted to swap back to her original Saturday. This would’ve left Ann in the shit as by then Ann had booked her hotel.

It led to the manager being dragged into it and the manager ended up having to arrange a 3rd member of staff to work Ann’s shift as Julie was insisting that her offer to swap with Ann had been done as a favour and wasn’t enforceable.

After that came the blanket ban of Saturday swaps, there is no leeway. It’s a shame as everyone else is being punished, most of us regularly sorted Saturday deals between ourselves and there was no issue prior to this.

Edited

They should have just banned Julie really. Once she'd swapped it was on her to find someone else who was not Ann.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 04/03/2026 12:57

VickyEadieofThigh · 04/03/2026 12:29

Sickness is unpaid? What century do you live in?

Where I work 1st 3 days of sickness are unpaid

BlimeyOReillyO · 04/03/2026 12:57

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 12:55

There was a big, well-known drama a couple of months ago over a Saturday swap.

Ann had requested a shift swap in the group-chat so she could have a weekend away for a milestone birthday. Julie had nothing planned that Saturday so said yes. Julie’s daughter then got invited to a major audition that day and suddenly Julie wanted to swap back to her original Saturday. This would’ve left Ann in the shit as by then Ann had booked her hotel.

It led to the manager being dragged into it and the manager ended up having to arrange a 3rd member of staff to work Ann’s shift as Julie was insisting that her offer to swap with Ann had been done as a favour and wasn’t enforceable.

After that came the blanket ban of Saturday swaps, there is no leeway. It’s a shame as everyone else is being punished, most of us regularly sorted Saturday deals between ourselves and there was no issue prior to this.

Edited

Lazy management! One issue and it’s banned.

But now they’ll have to cover sickies, shame they’re so short sighted,

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 12:55

There was a big, well-known drama a couple of months ago over a Saturday swap.

Ann had requested a shift swap in the group-chat so she could have a weekend away for a milestone birthday. Julie had nothing planned that Saturday so said yes. Julie’s daughter then got invited to a major audition that day and suddenly Julie wanted to swap back to her original Saturday. This would’ve left Ann in the shit as by then Ann had booked her hotel.

It led to the manager being dragged into it and the manager ended up having to arrange a 3rd member of staff to work Ann’s shift as Julie was insisting that her offer to swap with Ann had been done as a favour and wasn’t enforceable.

After that came the blanket ban of Saturday swaps, there is no leeway. It’s a shame as everyone else is being punished, most of us regularly sorted Saturday deals between ourselves and there was no issue prior to this.

OP posts:
Ninerainbows · 04/03/2026 12:55

BlimeyOReillyO · 04/03/2026 12:53

Which then makes the system unworkable! Doesn’t it!

Sorry SIL you should’ve checked which date suited me for your wedding, it’s the most important thing to do! Yes, you may have only been able to get the venue for that Saturday, but as I’m running the country that day, I can’t take it off.

Oh no, not running the country working for an inflexible employer, who doesn’t pay sick leave.

I agree with you. One can't even say that the OP knew the deal when she took the job because at that time you could swap Saturdays with others.

BlimeyOReillyO · 04/03/2026 12:54

Doingtheboxerbeat · 04/03/2026 12:46

Inflexible, blanket ban of anything for a kick off - we had to ban this thing because too many people were making the managers lives too difficult - type energy, like we're children. I prefer my employers to treat me like an adult, that has real life situations that can happen.

This! 👏

BlimeyOReillyO · 04/03/2026 12:53

Heronwatcher · 04/03/2026 12:33

Having the rule is ridiculous. What happened if it was her own wedding? that was planned on her parents anniversary? That fell on that Saturday? Cant get married because it falls on YOUR Saturday?

She gets 3 Saturdays out of 4 off! So maybe plan the big events on one of these days. And in fairness it sounds as though they tried to allow employees to swap in the past and it turned into an absolute shit-show so they had to ban it.

Which then makes the system unworkable! Doesn’t it!

Sorry SIL you should’ve checked which date suited me for your wedding, it’s the most important thing to do! Yes, you may have only been able to get the venue for that Saturday, but as I’m running the country that day, I can’t take it off.

Oh no, not running the country working for an inflexible employer, who doesn’t pay sick leave.

MrsLizzieDarcy · 04/03/2026 12:48

If you can afford to be unemployed, crack on. Because you'll be at high risk here of disciplinary action, pregnant or not. In fact it could be the perfect excuse to get you out the door.

If you can't, tell your partner to sort his mess out.

Bearbookagainandagain · 04/03/2026 12:47

I would have said go for it, it's a one off and was a mistake... Your employer wouldn't think twice about making you redundant!

But it will be absolutely obvious to your manager now that you've asked to swap. They will be hyper vigilant because it is a Saturday.
It would be a gross misconduct if they find out. If you're counting on maternity leave, I assume that now isn't the best time risking losing your job.

Heronwatcher · 04/03/2026 12:47

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 12:36

Just to add - we get our rota 5 weeks in advance but you can usually count forward 4 weeks to get a good idea of what Saturdays you’ll end up working. Sometimes people have gotten it wrong and ended up in a mess where they’ve missed weddings, had to take unpaid leave for childcare etc

Edited

In this case the employees need to get together and petition management to change the system. Maybe you could ask for rotas more in advance, ask to be allowed to swap in exceptional circumstances or something like that together. Or just find a different job if you don’t like it.

But it you resign or get sacked bear in mind that you probably won’t qualify for enhanced maternity at the next place, even if you managed to get a job when pregnant, as you won’t have been there long enough.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 04/03/2026 12:46

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 12:39

Why are they shit employers?

Inflexible, blanket ban of anything for a kick off - we had to ban this thing because too many people were making the managers lives too difficult - type energy, like we're children. I prefer my employers to treat me like an adult, that has real life situations that can happen.

Ninerainbows · 04/03/2026 12:46

No boss I have ever had would have been arsed with all the faff of a disciplinary, when it's an otherwise good (and pregnant) employee, over one day. I would do it.

Megifer · 04/03/2026 12:44

Id start making ill noises on Thursday pm. Lay it on Friday morning and throw in a few "think ill be in bed for 9pm im not feeling right at all" in the afternoon if appropriate chatter arises. Then possibly leave a bit early on friday due to illness.

Pregnancy related of course, morning sickness etc.

McChubble · 04/03/2026 12:44

This is really shit and I don’t like the sound of your employer but unless you’re prepared to lose your job over it, and the reality is discrimination is rife so it won’t be easy to get a new one while pregnant, I wouldn’t go. It is far, far too risky.

Heronwatcher · 04/03/2026 12:42

BlimeyOReillyO · 04/03/2026 12:34

So OP goes to the doctor and says I was sick last Friday and Saturday, employer wants proof. What are they going to say? No, I’m not doing that? You didn’t have a bug?

it’s a pointless exercise and I’m sure OP would get the “proof” she needed

No, by evidence I think evidence at the time. Like an email or text from the doctor confirming an appointment, or from a midwife or something like that. It would all depend on the reason given. If OP
says she had a midwife appointment or had to attend hospital there would be contemporaneous evidence of this. But as you say, if it was norovirus used as an excuse but after a days leave and when the employee had asked for the day off already it may not be possible to get evidence, and so all the employer might be able to do is make a note of the suspicion and keep an eye on things. But in this situation I would not expect the manager/ company to be extending goodwill the other way and if the OP genuinely is ill a couple of times in my work this would trigger enhanced monitoring where (I think) you have to provide evidence every time you are off.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/03/2026 12:41

Banning swaps does sound a bad policy though, esp as you only have the shifts at such short notice. They should give you much more notice any way.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/03/2026 12:41

I think your partner needs to try to swap the booking. He messed up, he needs to change it.

You shouldn’t have to risk your employment by throwing a sickie or mess about - he needs to change it. It’s not for him to “tear his hair out” - he just made a mistake and needs to change it.

Friendlygingercat · 04/03/2026 12:39

If the first few days of sickness are unpaid then staff are going to be careful not to take a suspicious number of odd days off especially next to a weekend. You learn to be strategic in these matters. However employers who have such rigid rules will reap what they sow.

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 12:39

Duvetdayneeded · 04/03/2026 12:37

Shit employer so do a sickie

Why are they shit employers?

Duvetdayneeded · 04/03/2026 12:37

Shit employer so do a sickie

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 12:36

Just to add - we get our rota 5 weeks in advance but you can usually count forward 4 weeks to get a good idea of what Saturdays you’ll end up working. Sometimes people have gotten it wrong and ended up in a mess where they’ve missed weddings, had to take unpaid leave for childcare etc

OP posts:
Doingtheboxerbeat · 04/03/2026 12:36

toomuchfaff · 04/03/2026 12:30

It is a risky time being pregnant; but given that she mentioned her sick time is unpaid in a previous comment; I'm guessing the place isn't going to be giving her above and beyond benefits of employment aside from definitely having to work one Saturday a month. It'll probably be Statutory Maternity pay, nothing enhanced.

She is willing to book leave.
Having the rule is ridiculous. What happened if it was her own wedding? that was planned on her parents anniversary? That fell on that Saturday? Cant get married because it falls on YOUR Saturday? Get out of it... ridiculous rule. Not that it'd be solved by this situation but pointing out that its ridiculous.

Paid time off - I'm telling you im taking leave; not asking. She has the leave; the rule is ridiculous

Edited

You have a point here as @VickyEadieofThigh has bluntly pointed out, the employer doesn't sound great, so fck em - they're not going to take care of the OP during her maternity leave I suspect.

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 12:35

BlimeyOReillyO · 04/03/2026 12:32

Poor employer all round really….

Not really, first 3 days are unpaid...... You expect employers to pay the odd sick day when it appears from here that many are taken when not genuinely sick...?
If every employer paid for every sick day, it gives people more excuses to 'skive' off.

BlimeyOReillyO · 04/03/2026 12:34

Heronwatcher · 04/03/2026 12:30

I think the employer can ask at any point- and especially given that the OP has said she’s pregnant and may use her pregnancy as an excuse (pregnancy is a longer term condition and the employer may be able to say they need more details to ensure they are abiding by health and safety legislation/ risk assessments). Of course as you say if it’s less than 7 days the OP can refuse to provide details voluntarily but this will likely be noted and if a pattern emerges she could be put on enhanced monitoring and/ or poor performance, depending on policies.

So OP goes to the doctor and says I was sick last Friday and Saturday, employer wants proof. What are they going to say? No, I’m not doing that? You didn’t have a bug?

it’s a pointless exercise and I’m sure OP would get the “proof” she needed

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