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Would you pull a sickie for a pre-booked trip?

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EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 11:10

I’ve had a really shite time lately with some family events and my mental health.

My lovely partner today surprised me with a long weekend to my favourite city in Europe in April. It’s been booked.

he didn’t think anything of booking it as he knew I had loads of annual leave (will need to book the Friday off) and I’m over the moon. The only problem is, my department requires us to work 1 in every 4 Saturdays and my Saturday has fallen when we’re supposed to go away.

they are usually fine to book any annual leave but there’s a strict rule that you have to do your Saturdays, no exception. It was an oversight on my partner’s part and he’s very apologetic.

The trip isn’t really refundable, he got a fab deal on the hotel and that part is refundable but the flights which make up 80% of what he’s paid are non-refundable. We couldn’t really afford to re-book.

Saturday shifts at my job are also notoriously busy and stressful.

I’ve had such an awful time lately and really need this trip to look forward to. WIBU to pull a sickie on the Saturday?

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EsmeSusanOgg · 05/03/2026 09:53

I do not think the contract here is reasonable. You should be able to book leave in advance (5 weeks is not enough notice). If you book leave around a date, you should also be able to book off the Saturday. I think they have been very unreasonable as an employer regarding this.

Laskey · 04/03/2026 21:53

Happily without an ounce of guilt

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 21:38

stichguru · 04/03/2026 20:40

Only pull a sickie, or go in any way without permission, if you are ok with however they may discipline you if they found out. It's going to be bloodly obvious now!

Oh I agree! I’d have been better off not asking for the Saturday off at all and just pulling the sickie.

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stichguru · 04/03/2026 20:40

Only pull a sickie, or go in any way without permission, if you are ok with however they may discipline you if they found out. It's going to be bloodly obvious now!

Turnthelightoff · 04/03/2026 20:33

Have you actually explained why you are asking? As in setting out that your DP with every respect for the 1 in 4 rule has genuinely messed up? I know they think they need to draw a line and it’s a funny one as to whether anything could find the chink in the armour where they might say yes.

otherwise what would actually happen if people played dumb and just sorted the swap? So your colleague working on her anniversary rocks up the week early and covers the colleague missing child’s birthday?

Ninerainbows · 04/03/2026 20:18

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 19:48

That’s all you take from my post?

honestly? If the company has a new policy then yes… bloody unfair I do totally agree

people don’t like it, then quit… lying is the lowest thing to anyone….

No, they shouldn't all have to quit. Convenient if they do as then they can put this lovely policy in the contract of all the new employees.

And yeah it kinda was what I took from your post as you keep banging on about rules and respect. Changing their contractual terms of annual leave and working hours because of one woman's behaviour isn't respectful. It's treating them like children. It's also borderline discriminatory - there's no paid childcare on Saturdays so what are single parents meant to do if they can't swap?

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 19:48

Ninerainbows · 04/03/2026 19:38

Do you genuinely think that a new policy for existing employees meaning people who booked a holiday over Easter months ago would need to cancel if they get rotaed on that Saturday is reasonable?

That’s all you take from my post?

honestly? If the company has a new policy then yes… bloody unfair I do totally agree

people don’t like it, then quit… lying is the lowest thing to anyone….

Ninerainbows · 04/03/2026 19:38

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 19:09

No they don’t!!! Jesus, get a grip!

they have rules to follow just like everyone and everything else.

remember, these ‘shit’ employers pay people’s wages.

dont like how a company is ran, well off to fuck you go.

i genuinely can’t believe how many people are happy to continuously lie and take the piss.

its called respect, its a simple thing that many people don’t have.

Do you genuinely think that a new policy for existing employees meaning people who booked a holiday over Easter months ago would need to cancel if they get rotaed on that Saturday is reasonable?

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 19:09

Thechaseison71 · 04/03/2026 17:11

Well yeah. The company seem they are treating their employees like arseholes so they deserve no better

No they don’t!!! Jesus, get a grip!

they have rules to follow just like everyone and everything else.

remember, these ‘shit’ employers pay people’s wages.

dont like how a company is ran, well off to fuck you go.

i genuinely can’t believe how many people are happy to continuously lie and take the piss.

its called respect, its a simple thing that many people don’t have.

Tink3rbell30 · 04/03/2026 17:52

It'll be so obvious you're lying now so you'll have to rearrange your trip. You wouldn't relax properly anyway knowing you've lied.

Mvxc · 04/03/2026 17:33

NutButterOnToast · 04/03/2026 14:00

In that case I would just do the swap with your friend. Tell no one. Your work friend comes in on Saturday, you don't.

If management throw a fit, what are they going to do? Send your friend home?

This! If you trust your work friend then just do that.
Have they actually got a written policy about the Saturday swaps and has it been through HR? I'd just crack on with the swap.

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 17:24

Alpacajigsaw · 04/03/2026 16:48

I think you should, it’s absolute nonsense. I’ve genuinely never heard of such a stupid policy.

So someone could book a two week holiday months in advance. The leave is granted over the Mondays to Fridays. But then a few weeks before they’re due to go a Saturday is scheduled in the middle of it? Absolute madness. Who dreams this stuff up? Clue: someone who themselves doesn’t have to comply with such idiotic policies

Precisely. Yet no doubt they’ll send out an arsey email in a few weeks moaning about the amount of Saturday sickness calls.

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Thechaseison71 · 04/03/2026 17:11

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 16:58

So, lie then?

Well yeah. The company seem they are treating their employees like arseholes so they deserve no better

Hedgehogsaremyjam · 04/03/2026 17:05

If you have HR or a union go to them.

If you don't get your colleagues together and protest but put a plan togethet that would work for both sides and present that don't just complain.

The annual leave being generous is completely worthless when you only get ypur Saturday rota 5 weeks in advance and can't mark any of them as dates to avoid. You can't guarantee a full 7 days or even longer off until that rota comes out which events like holidays, and weddings even your own wedding would have to be scheduled at very short notice.

I suspect your contract says nothing about any of it other than the actual requirement to work one in four Saturdays.

So either propose a swap system that works or that the rota for Saturdays is published at least 6 months in advance

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 16:58

Thechaseison71 · 04/03/2026 16:50

Not if she rings in sick with a pregnancy ailment

So, lie then?

TheSecretAgent1 · 04/03/2026 16:52

Do it and enjoy your trip, just don't post about it on social media

Thechaseison71 · 04/03/2026 16:50

dadtoateen · 04/03/2026 13:15

If it's classed as gross misconduct they can absolutely sack her, pregnant or not

Not if she rings in sick with a pregnancy ailment

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 16:48

Heronwatcher · 04/03/2026 15:53

Don’t get Julie involved!

Suggest that at the next team meeting this is raised for discussion. Then get the whole team together and agree that you all have to propose one solution and stick to it. (I.e 2 way swaps allowed if agreed X weeks in advance and responsibility for re-arranging is clear). If you have a meeting where you’re all arguing this is just going to prove managers right!

If you don’t have team meetings, send an email from you all and set out the real-life consequences that the ban is causing.

That is a good idea. It is causing a lot of stress and upset. So simple to book annual leave if it’s a weekday but if on a Saturday you are screwed. People have missed weddings, kids birthdays, had to re-arrange holidays. Despite having a coworker more than happy to swap!

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Alpacajigsaw · 04/03/2026 16:48

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 14:37

It’s a shame as I have 2 other colleagues who have also been left in the shit the blanket ban.

Colleauge A has their child’s birthday 7th March and is working.

Colleauge B has her anniversary Saturday 14th and is working.

Colleauge A and B teamed up and reached out to the manager to beg for a swap and got declined.

It’s shite because if these events had fallen on weekdays they’d be able to book annual leave no problem.

I’m wondering whether to be a pain now and get everyone involved to contest the ban!

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I think you should, it’s absolute nonsense. I’ve genuinely never heard of such a stupid policy.

So someone could book a two week holiday months in advance. The leave is granted over the Mondays to Fridays. But then a few weeks before they’re due to go a Saturday is scheduled in the middle of it? Absolute madness. Who dreams this stuff up? Clue: someone who themselves doesn’t have to comply with such idiotic policies

Moonnstarz · 04/03/2026 16:44

Are you part of union? Can you ask them for advice?
Surely most people book holidays further off than 5 weeks so the rota system surely won't work.

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 16:42

Deffo can’t call in sick now of course! I might continue to be awkward and write up a contract with my coworker saying we are 100% happy to swap and have no intentions of changing our minds, and we accept consequences if the other one doesn’t show up. And then present that to my manager.

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EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 16:33

Hedgehogsaremyjam · 04/03/2026 16:14

Have you got an employment contract? If so what does it say about not swapping Saturdays?

Can you mark any Saturday's as dates to avoid in advance?

Have you got an HR department or a union?

This is where it gets unreasonable as you can book annual leave months in advance but they will book you in for 1 every 4 Saturday’s regardless of whether you’ve booked any annual leave that week. This is why they used to allow swaps but then due to Julie/Ann incident we can’t do this anymore.

For example - let’s say months ago I had booked a holiday 9th April to 16th April - then I get my rota 5 weeks ahead and my 1 in 4 Saturday shift has ended up falling on the Saturday 14th April. I’d be expected to work this shift. Used to be easily fixed by a swap but now causes people a lot of stress in rearranging holidays.

Manager has just responded to my email stating “We are very generous with annual leave in offering 35 days and we have no other restrictions on when annual leave can be booked. Therefore, we feel it is fair that we are strict about enforcing the 1 in 4 Saturday rule. Employees receive a rota 5 weeks ahead and can plan holidays accordingly. It is written into the employment contract that you will work a Saturday every 4 weeks. We have had to disallow swaps as it was causing confusion and unfairness among the team. We have had incidents where staff members have repeatedly swapped and therefore haven’t worked any of their scheduled Saturdays, so we have had to crack down.”

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Moonnstarz · 04/03/2026 16:17

Well I think you are going to need to go to the manager and explain the situation, saying you have someone that is willing to swap or you need to see if the holiday can be moved. I don't think it is a good idea to pull a sickie, it's already going to look suspicious and even if you don't want to stay at that company long term they might give you a less favourable reference (they can't be negative but they can stick to facts).
I am not sure why you don't have a shared calendar with your partner as this would then mean he could have checked more carefully beforehand (either an old fashioned wall calendar with your Saturdays marked on it, or shared on your phones).

Hedgehogsaremyjam · 04/03/2026 16:14

Have you got an employment contract? If so what does it say about not swapping Saturdays?

Can you mark any Saturday's as dates to avoid in advance?

Have you got an HR department or a union?

Heronwatcher · 04/03/2026 15:53

EsperTillus · 04/03/2026 15:20

If I were to go about officially challenging the blanket-ban on Saturday swaps, what’s the best way to go about it? I’m only an entry-level position as is every else who’s been shafted by the ban. Managers are allowed to use AL for Saturday shifts. Should I get Julie involved to support me as it was banned due to her?

Any advice appreciated as I’d much rather address the issue head-on that have to be deceitful and call in sick

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Don’t get Julie involved!

Suggest that at the next team meeting this is raised for discussion. Then get the whole team together and agree that you all have to propose one solution and stick to it. (I.e 2 way swaps allowed if agreed X weeks in advance and responsibility for re-arranging is clear). If you have a meeting where you’re all arguing this is just going to prove managers right!

If you don’t have team meetings, send an email from you all and set out the real-life consequences that the ban is causing.