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Some of the Iranian protesters deaths were fake

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Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:00

So we heard 30,000 in the news but a lot of people are coming out saying that they were counted in the dead but didn’t die.

Seeing their name and face in the news.

Below are the videos they posted saying they are alive. It’s surreal.

So how many were actually killed, and can we trust any published number?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYs7YQ/

vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYV4cq/

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Wabbajack · 04/03/2026 14:39

Anadolu Agency are shills for Erdogan.

sashaski · 04/03/2026 12:24

Gingernaut · 04/03/2026 07:02

We need a bit more than a couple of TikTok vids

Or the BBC

HoskinsChoice · 04/03/2026 12:15

randomchap · 04/03/2026 10:17

So am I.

🤣

Labelledelune · 04/03/2026 12:01

I don’t think we can trust anyone on this, lies on both sides, maybe of the Iranian regime hadn’t shut down all media they could be seen as being more credible. They obviously don’t want people to know what’s going on and how many people they are murdering.

MrThorpeHazell · 04/03/2026 11:53

I am sorry, but I do not see the relevance of this. So the number of killed and wounded might have been mis-reported or deliberately distorted.

That has been true of every military action in history.

randomchap · 04/03/2026 10:17

HoskinsChoice · 04/03/2026 09:53

I'm amazed you didn't understand the post you quoted!

So am I.

LilyBunch25 · 04/03/2026 10:02

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:10

It is and it’s also published in the news

On which reputable news source (I repeat, reputable)

sabababa · 04/03/2026 10:00

Thingything · 04/03/2026 09:54

Is that you Vladimir?

Mumsnet - beware troll accounts spreading misinformation x

I was thinking more Mojtaba but yeah, why would someone with no agenda start such a bizarre post?

A few deaths with dodgy details on social media versus tens of thousands known to have been mudered from reputable sources.

And the timing too....

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:56

randomchap · 04/03/2026 09:52

Whoops. Sorry

No apology needed 😊

Thingything · 04/03/2026 09:54

Is that you Vladimir?

Mumsnet - beware troll accounts spreading misinformation x

HoskinsChoice · 04/03/2026 09:53

randomchap · 04/03/2026 09:44

There absolutely is unreal news and newspapers pushing unreliable narratives. I'm amazed people aren't aware of this

I'm amazed you didn't understand the post you quoted!

randomchap · 04/03/2026 09:52

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:47

I think I may have been a little too subtle. Re - read my message with perhaps a hint of cynicism and that I might also be reflecting back at the OP.

Edited

Whoops. Sorry

HappyFace2025 · 04/03/2026 09:50

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:31

Real newspapers you say? Ohh that also suggests unreal newspapers and unreal news. How are we to tell the difference I wonder. It's a real conundrum isn't it.

😂

sabababa · 04/03/2026 09:49

I wouldn't be surprised if you were somehow recruited by pro-regime to post shit like this.
The number could be as high as 100,000
The regime cut the internet on purpose.

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:47

randomchap · 04/03/2026 09:44

There absolutely is unreal news and newspapers pushing unreliable narratives. I'm amazed people aren't aware of this

I think I may have been a little too subtle. Re - read my message with perhaps a hint of cynicism and that I might also be reflecting back at the OP.

randomchap · 04/03/2026 09:44

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:31

Real newspapers you say? Ohh that also suggests unreal newspapers and unreal news. How are we to tell the difference I wonder. It's a real conundrum isn't it.

There absolutely is unreal news and newspapers pushing unreliable narratives. I'm amazed people aren't aware of this

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:31

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 08:05

It’s in real newspapers that you can check yourself. If the internet is so bad how did you get online to comment on this post.

Real newspapers you say? Ohh that also suggests unreal newspapers and unreal news. How are we to tell the difference I wonder. It's a real conundrum isn't it.

TorroFerney · 04/03/2026 09:00

HarlanCobenDogshit · 04/03/2026 08:03

It's not even thinly veiled....

Fair point. It’s getting harder for them though isn’t it as it’s a choice between everything being Israel’s fault versus saying effectively they support the Iranian regime. I think they are finding it a bit of a head scratcher.

HappyFace2025 · 04/03/2026 08:50

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:00

So we heard 30,000 in the news but a lot of people are coming out saying that they were counted in the dead but didn’t die.

Seeing their name and face in the news.

Below are the videos they posted saying they are alive. It’s surreal.

So how many were actually killed, and can we trust any published number?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYs7YQ/

vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYV4cq/

The title of your thread and OP is goady. 'Faked' deaths is not the case here. HTH.

Itsmetheflamingo · 04/03/2026 08:39

I think propaganda in a war is normal and expected from both sides. Of course the public should avoid taking the situation as reported as gospel.

PandoraSocks · 04/03/2026 08:38

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 04/03/2026 08:25

I am fairly sure that for each person incorrectly reported dead, there will be several as yet unnoticed or unidentified or uncounted.

For sure.

What are you hoping for by starting this thread @Ipendem ?

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 08:29

Thank you for prompting an important discussion and encouraging us all to look at this. The pursuit of truth is an admirable business.

I've found multiple verifiable sources and reports. Ive tried to include a mix of media - eNGOs, centrist, ledt leaning and right learning. You know... for a little sprinkling of objectivity. I hope you take the time to look at them. I'm afraid you will need a concentration span that hasn't been addled by tik tok. But I'm sure your desire for the truth will drive you on to read the following (in no particular order):

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/01/16/iran-growing-evidence-of-countrywide-massacres

https://phr.org/news/iranian-physicians-testimonies-highlight-extent-and-severity-of-government-attacks-on-protesters/

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2026/01/what-happened-at-the-protests-in-iran/

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/02/25/opinion/iran-protests-doctors.html

BBC News - Machine guns to machetes: Weapons that massacred thousands in Iran
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mgndkklvmo

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2026/02/28/iranians-will-never-forget-khameneis-reign-of-terror/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/04/hid-in-a-morgue-with-a-severed-leg-to-survive-irans-regime/

https://news.sky.com/video/iranian-rapper-describes-massacre-during-blackout-13495640

https://news.sky.com/story/what-do-we-know-about-the-number-of-people-killed-in-iran-protests-13501129

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactive/2026/feb/06/rasht-massacre-protests-iran-timeline

Or for the sake of brevity, in Tikky Tokky language... TL:DR - Shame. On. You.

Fires are lit as protesters demonstrate in Tehran, Iran, on January 8, 2026.

Iran: Growing Evidence of Countrywide Massacres

Iran’s security forces have carried out mass killings of protesters after nationwide protests escalated on January 8, 2026. Thousands of protesters and bystanders are believed to have been killed.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/01/16/iran-growing-evidence-of-countrywide-massacres

ilovesooty · 04/03/2026 08:27

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 04/03/2026 08:25

I am fairly sure that for each person incorrectly reported dead, there will be several as yet unnoticed or unidentified or uncounted.

Definitely.

ColdAsAWitches · 04/03/2026 08:27

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:29

Did you read the title? I said some of the deaths were fake.
So yes I’m still correct.
At least two women have caught themselves in the news being counted as dead.
How many don’t watch the news but have their image and name taken without knowing? You don’t think that’s strange

Did you think exactly 30,000 people were killed? Or do you think, in the absence of people being able to confirm every single person in a volatile situation, it was a rounding of what they thought was a good representation of the scale of what happened? 2 people out of that being wrong doesn't matter.

Ahaj · 04/03/2026 08:26

That doesn’t show the number of deaths was fake, it just show mistaken identity and sloppy journalism for a couple of people.
the second person was first posted by a twitter account with the wrong picture and then by places like RT so just sloppy journalism and shows the negatives on relying like stuff on twitter and shitty “news” places like rt

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