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Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls

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Dirtydianaoh · 04/03/2026 01:34

For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
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Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 11:26

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 11:12

Regime change was reportedly the main objective which was announced from the beginning.

What was the other objective? Because it doesn't seem like they had a real tangible plan and their own intelligence warned them over the taken course of action.

The regime hasn't been weakened either really and any knowledge of Iranian politics and how they've been preparing for over 20 years should have made that obvious. What's clear, however, is that Trump believed that they'd be able to make Iran capitulate from the initial strikes therefore allowing them to claim a quick "victory" like they managed with Venezuela.

And very easy to talk about 'evil' considering all the insidious things the US has done over the years which stretches to this day and also Israel committing mass genocide and destroying the lives of so many people now happening in Lebanon etc.

Regime change was mentioned by Trump early on but it was always acknowledged to be something that had to be done from within Iran.

Other objectives:

One week into the war with Iran, the United States seems to have settled on four primary objectives: (1) destroying Iran’s navy; (2) destroying Iran’s missile capabilities; (3) preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons; and (4) preventing Iran from supporting proxy groups, such as Hezbollah in Lebanon or the Houthis in Yemen. Administration officials—notably President Trump in his initial remarks regarding the war—have hinted that regime change is also among their goals, but have consistently excluded this message in recent days.

www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/assessing-us-progress-iran-war

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 11:18

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 10:42

Israeli intelligence now admitting regime change did not work and there was no plan. Apologists! .www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/12/israel-iran-us-attack-no-plan-for-regime-change-security-sources

But Israel never did say regime change was a primary goal, it was more something that would be great if it did happen but they couldn't make happen. Many, many Iranians were begging for intervention remember (though more from Trump as the US is more powerful).

From the article you linked:

If Iran’s new leadership keeps its grip on power, the long-term measure of the success of the conflict may hang on the fate of 440kg of enriched uranium which was buried under a mountain by US strikes last June, former and serving Israeli defence and intelligence sources said. Enough for more than 10 nuclear warheads, Iran could use it to hasten the construction of a weapon if the material remains in the country.

“These 440kg of uranium are one of the clearest litmus tests for how this war ends, whether it is a success,” said one former senior Israeli defence and intelligence official who worked on Iran. “We need to be in a position where either this material is out of Iran, or you have a regime where you are confident that it is safeguarded [inside Iran] in a very meaningful way.”

Hardliners in Iran have long argued a nuclear deterrent is the only guarantee of survival for the Islamic republic. The overwhelming military dominance of US and Israeli forces in this war is likely to bolster that view if the regime survives.
The US is reportedly considering sending troops on a high-risk mission to secure the uranium. Negotiations before the war also included proposals for Iran to surrender the enriched uranium to another country.

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 11:12

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 11:00

It's not a "failed war from the off" because regime change was not the only or main goal of the war. The US and Israel have said that regime change needs to come from within and they have urged the Iranian people to rise up. Even if they do not feel able to do this right now, the regime has been weakened and that has to be a good thing for anyone who thinks they are evil.

There are many other goals that have already been mentioned. They are doing pretty well with achieving those. Though still have a long way to go so the outcome of the war is really not known yet.

Regime change was reportedly the main objective which was announced from the beginning.

What was the other objective? Because it doesn't seem like they had a real tangible plan and their own intelligence warned them over the taken course of action.

The regime hasn't been weakened either really and any knowledge of Iranian politics and how they've been preparing for over 20 years should have made that obvious. What's clear, however, is that Trump believed that they'd be able to make Iran capitulate from the initial strikes therefore allowing them to claim a quick "victory" like they managed with Venezuela.

And very easy to talk about 'evil' considering all the insidious things the US has done over the years which stretches to this day and also Israel committing mass genocide and destroying the lives of so many people now happening in Lebanon etc.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 11:02

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 10:56

They've completely failed to decimate the regime so far so their primary objective, as stated by DJT on the first day the war.

Are you able to quote all these people who are defending the Iranian regime and who think it's okay to murder their own people? If not, please stop throwing around accusations. You have a bad habit of doing this.

I've asked you twice now to stop engaging with me due to personal attacks such as "you have a bad habit of doing this". I don't want to talk to you because of the way you do this every time.

This is the third time of asking you to leave me alone. Please respect it or I will consider it bullying.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 11:00

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 10:40

The thing is though they were never going to truly decimate the Iran regime therefore bringing about regime change and the notion was incredibly foolish and lacking in foresight to begin with.

For that reason it's a failed war from the off, the only person that was stopping them from getting nukes was assassinated along with his family members which included grandchildren the youngest of which was 14 months old.

Now, his son who is reportedly didn't subscribe to his father's line of thinking is in power.

All this war has done is likely convince Iran that they now actually need nukes in the years to come in order for this to never happen again and who can blame them? Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy.

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It's not a "failed war from the off" because regime change was not the only or main goal of the war. The US and Israel have said that regime change needs to come from within and they have urged the Iranian people to rise up. Even if they do not feel able to do this right now, the regime has been weakened and that has to be a good thing for anyone who thinks they are evil.

There are many other goals that have already been mentioned. They are doing pretty well with achieving those. Though still have a long way to go so the outcome of the war is really not known yet.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 10:56

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 10:33

I don’t think that comment is ok.

The war is to decimate the Iranian regime not the Iranian people.

So many people defending the Iranian regime on this thread! I suppose you think iIt’s ok the way they murder their own people just for protesting?

They've completely failed to decimate the regime so far so their primary objective, as stated by DJT on the first day the war.

Are you able to quote all these people who are defending the Iranian regime and who think it's okay to murder their own people? If not, please stop throwing around accusations. You have a bad habit of doing this.

whereisitnow · 12/03/2026 10:56

This war won’t decimate the regime, unfortunately. It’s a mistake and will cost us all. It already is. It’ll make some people rich, though.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 10:52

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 10:36

How's decimating the regime going? A worse man in charge now.

No, am not going to rise to that deflection " You must be an apologist for the regime". Things have moved on since day 1. Nazanin Zaghari- Ratliffe and many other political prisoners have come out against the war. I guess they must be besties with the regime then.

Decimating the regime is not a primary aim though since you ask, quite a lot of the top people in the regime have been killed. And now Iran have a cardboard cut out for a leader so that tells you something.

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 10:42

Israeli intelligence now admitting regime change did not work and there was no plan. Apologists! .www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/12/israel-iran-us-attack-no-plan-for-regime-change-security-sources

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 10:40

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 10:33

I don’t think that comment is ok.

The war is to decimate the Iranian regime not the Iranian people.

So many people defending the Iranian regime on this thread! I suppose you think iIt’s ok the way they murder their own people just for protesting?

The thing is though they were never going to truly decimate the Iran regime therefore bringing about regime change and the notion was incredibly foolish and lacking in foresight to begin with.

For that reason it's a failed war from the off, the only person that was stopping them from getting nukes was assassinated along with his family members which included grandchildren the youngest of which was 14 months old.

Now, his son who is reportedly didn't subscribe to his father's line of thinking is in power.

All this war has done is likely convince Iran that they now actually need nukes in the years to come in order for this to never happen again and who can blame them? Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy.

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 10:36

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 10:33

I don’t think that comment is ok.

The war is to decimate the Iranian regime not the Iranian people.

So many people defending the Iranian regime on this thread! I suppose you think iIt’s ok the way they murder their own people just for protesting?

How's decimating the regime going? A worse man in charge now.

No, am not going to rise to that deflection " You must be an apologist for the regime". Things have moved on since day 1. Nazanin Zaghari- Ratliffe and many other political prisoners have come out against the war. I guess they must be besties with the regime then.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 10:33

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 10:15

Ok @Twiglets1 If you think this rhetoric from Hegseth-
" The only ones worried now should be Iranians who think they are going to live" - is ok, I don't really have anything more to say. But let's at least give up the pretence that this war is to save Iranian people. It's intended to decimate them.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-trump-team-s-iran-war-rhetoric-fuels-backlash

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I don’t think that comment is ok.

The war is to decimate the Iranian regime not the Iranian people.

So many people defending the Iranian regime on this thread! I suppose you think iIt’s ok the way they murder their own people just for protesting?

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 10:24

'Nothing can bring the people of a country together like killing it's leadership and an existential threat'
I agree with this @SherlockStones. Many Iranians hate the regime but it doesn't follow that they want the US 'riding to the rescue' <hollow laugh>.
There is a good chance that this war was a catastrophic error for the US, ignoring all the other terrible results.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 10:21

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 10:15

Ok @Twiglets1 If you think this rhetoric from Hegseth-
" The only ones worried now should be Iranians who think they are going to live" - is ok, I don't really have anything more to say. But let's at least give up the pretence that this war is to save Iranian people. It's intended to decimate them.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-trump-team-s-iran-war-rhetoric-fuels-backlash

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Yes, that was one of his vile comments that I heard too. A frightening individual.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 10:20

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 09:55

Hegseth has also said the war was never intended to be a " fair fight".
I am so tired of the US lecturing other nations about human rights.

Quite. With their track record, I'm surprised that anyone falls for it anymore.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 10:19

BelleHathor · 12/03/2026 09:54

There have been allegations about Hegseth's abuse of alcohol. His ex sister in law signed a sworn affidavit and have evidence of his abusive behaviour whilst married to her sister.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/22/nx-s1-5270033/pete-hegseth-faces-new-allegations-of-alcohol-abuse-and-misconduct

Yes, I've read that too.
My comment comes from just observing his behaviour and listening to his choice of language in his recent conferences. He strikes me as someone truly evil.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 10:17

HappyFace2025 · 12/03/2026 09:54

Israel's 'orders' ?

Yes.

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 10:15

Ok @Twiglets1 If you think this rhetoric from Hegseth-
" The only ones worried now should be Iranians who think they are going to live" - is ok, I don't really have anything more to say. But let's at least give up the pretence that this war is to save Iranian people. It's intended to decimate them.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-trump-team-s-iran-war-rhetoric-fuels-backlash

Trump team's Iran war rhetoric fuels backlash

When the top US general spoke Tuesday of his "respect" for Iranian fighters, the remark underscored a striking divide between the restrained language of the military brass and the swaggering rhetoric…

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-trump-team-s-iran-war-rhetoric-fuels-backlash

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 10:15

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:46

I'm not sure if it will strengthen Iran or not but the US have got nowhere in terms of achieving their goals.

The Iranians didn't rise up when the US begged them to.
The Kurds have refused to join in the US war so that they can die.
The Iranians are continuing to fight and are mounting an extremely effective defense, particularly blocking the Straits of H, as they told the US they would in advance.

It seems fairly likely that the gulf countries will be asking the US to remove their bases if this continues as their presence is causing them to be attacked, meaning a much reduced influence over the region.

Long term I think it will strengthen Iran both domestically and regionally.

Nothing can bring the people of a country together like killing it's leadership and an existential threat.

But agreed on US losing it's influence, by the time it's over can easily see them being asked to leave by their allies and also Iran who have found out being so close to the US ultimately not worth it.

Additionally, can see Israel taking a major hit in terms of it's bloodthirsty intent for hegemony of the region. Iran has the leverage here which they never would have had before without being attacked which has ibeen inadvertently handed to them on a silver platter by both the US and Israel

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 10:12

Are wars ever intended to be a fair fight? Almost always wars are started by those that think they can win them. It’s pretty stupid to start a war if you’re not confident you can dominate the other side & win.

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 09:55

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:48

I completely agree. Hesgeth comes across as a psychopath to me.

Hegseth has also said the war was never intended to be a " fair fight".
I am so tired of the US lecturing other nations about human rights.

BelleHathor · 12/03/2026 09:54

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:48

I completely agree. Hesgeth comes across as a psychopath to me.

There have been allegations about Hegseth's abuse of alcohol. His ex sister in law signed a sworn affidavit and have evidence of his abusive behaviour whilst married to her sister.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/22/nx-s1-5270033/pete-hegseth-faces-new-allegations-of-alcohol-abuse-and-misconduct

HappyFace2025 · 12/03/2026 09:54

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:49

Yes, no winners here. It was very, very foolish of the US to follow Israel's 'orders' to start this war.

Israel's 'orders' ?

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:49

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 09:33

I believe Trump was warned Iran would attack the Gulf countries but refused to believe it.
I don't think there are any winners in this war.

Yes, no winners here. It was very, very foolish of the US to follow Israel's 'orders' to start this war.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:48

paloma7 · 12/03/2026 09:14

I can't understand why this is not today's headline news, all over the world, now that video footage proves the missile that hit the school was US / Israeli.

On the day this happened, Hegseth did that repulsive speech about 'quiet death from the air.' Yes he was taking about taking out the Ayatollah regime but even then, there is no need for this kind of language. Now, in light of all these children killed in the same strikes, the speech is diabolical. America and Israel are the shame of the Western world. I have no words really.

I completely agree. Hesgeth comes across as a psychopath to me.

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