Media pushing Starmer to war

Who cares how he's coming across?! He's not a celebrity for heaven's sake. Thankfully he's a sensible PM rightly refusing to drag us into an illegal war will drag on for months – or at least until the November primaries in the US, so Trump can cancel them using the excuse 'we're at war' and retain control of Congress and the Senate for the rest of his term to implement his fascist policies.

Because that's what's really underpinning this conflict.

When was this country last led by a Prime Minister who was a military veteran? What codswallop.

The Daily Mail supported the Nazi regime before WWII. It is no less far right now, and thrives on chaos and clicks. Don’t be manipulated by them.

The PM is quite right to stay rational and tread the fine line he is on, following the law and maintaining a stance in the best interests of the country. Those of you getting overexcited about going to war - go and join the military, or ask your children to. Then we’ll see how your stance changes.

There are always wars raging. One of the nice things about lawyers is that they dont try to drag us into each one - or (by and large) cause them which those brave military types and gung ho politicians do like to do.

Yeah because when there is war raging, what you need is a lawyer. Thats why all the great statesmen of the past were lawyers and they train lawyers in military academies.

Thankfully Starmer is a lawyer and will follow international law and self defence. He is doing a good job here so far. Law and international relations are his strengths. Domestic politics seem to be his weakness and all the infighting/squabbles. This is the type of situation to ignore the noise and following international law and military and intelligence advice so it plays to his strengths.

This situation isn’t just about the US. There is also China to consider.

Not so long ago the likes of the Mail and parts of MN were calling him a warmonger because he said the UK might provide peacekeepers in Ukraine. There were cries of "let him send his DC first!".

Now they are all screaming for him to involve the UK in an illegal war.

The irony is, if he had taken the opposite approach they would have criticised him for taking us to war! I for one think hes handling it well

He will probably u turn in a week, like he does everything else

He called it illegal. What else do you want him to do?!

His stance is right, but it's disappointing that he is not doing in a firm, determined and bold way. Grey man. Makes John major look like bright beige.

Last time a Labour PM took us into a spurious US folly in the Middle East he was called a war criminal and a million people marched against him.

And the US admitted yesterday that they only joined because Israel attacked first.

Starmer is spot in in this case. He’ll be torn to shreds because he always is, but he’s right.

According to Rubio, this is not even Trump's intended war. He said that US attacked because they knew of Israel's attack and they knew Iran would target US assets directly, so they thought better to strike first. This sounds, yet again, like it is Netanyahu who leads the action and Trump follows. It looks like Trump was making progress on the negotiations, and then Netanyahu decided to attack, so Trump attacked. It makes Trump look like a weak, aimless puppet. I think Trump will face quite a lot of trouble back at home if this goes on for long.
Starmer does not want to do the same to UK. And I think he is right. For the time being. War has a way to change from day to day.

More incompetent than Liz Truss? Or Boris Johnson? Nah.
Well quite ......

At least we now have a sensible and thoughtful PM with a good grasp of the law, all of which he will bring to bear on this situation.

You do not have to agree with all his policies but it is good to know that neither Johnsin nor Truss are at the helm at this critical moment.

Also don't understand why all this pressure on us to go to war.

Why aren't other leaders in Europe under the same pressure.

We are not US's lapdogs.

Starmers stance on this issue is correct.

The electorate: "Listen to us and change decisions when faced with new evidence/ strength of public opinion".

Also the electorate: "Stop listening to us and doing u turns on your decisions!"

The man literally cannot win.

Not only is there no plan but the US have admitted that they joined in because Israel told them they were going to bomb Iran. Jesus Christ. Thank goodness we don’t have the right wing populists in.

For him to stand up and say the war is illegal and there is no plan is impressive. The media have been anti-Starmer from day 1. I think the dying days of the Tory party and the chaos is what the press really want for reporting purposes. They are desperate for there to be a coup against him.

It's not really surprising when you consider that they're right wing media and Badenoch and Farage were spoiling for war yesterday when KS took questions in Parliament.

I don't like the Iranian regime one bit, but echoes of Iraq are strong with this one. Basically the US have said "do what we want or we'll bomb you". And they have. Probably unlawfully again. I'd trust KS as a former lawyer on this one. And those calling him the most incompetent PM ever have extraordinarily short memories. As a population, we do seem to repeatedly suffer from collective amnesia. And Stockholm Syndrome.

I don’t particularly like Starmer but I’m glad he’s the leader during this period and not someone insane like Johnson or Farage…

The DM is just an ecosystem for whatever opinion drives the most clicks.
Research shows that negativity generates more traction online, so they push a negative opinions about Kier Starmer. Whatever he does, it will be spun negatively.

That is what makes the DM money. It explains why they are negative about so many things:

immigration
Harry and Meghan
the new Green Party MP
people on benefits

Media doesn’t need to push Starmer to do anything. The guy has done about 78,000 u turns in less than two years already. He’s about as strong as a wet paper bag. He’ll give way even if you just look at him with a strong glare. What a pathetic excuse for a leader we have.

Agreed. There's absolutely no way that the DM would have posted even a modicum of support had Keir done the opposite of what he's done.

Having read this morning that USA only kicked this off on Saturday because Israel forced their hand, it makes me wonder who's really in control of this entire situation. It sure as hell doesn't look like Trump is. And Keir not committing immediately took even more control from Trump which he clearly didn't like.

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