To think this is utterly disgusting?!?

Whether it’s ruled a genocide or not is immaterial. It was - and remains - appalling behaviour by Israel.

Unless you think the IDF were handing out teddies and sweets to the children in Gaza?

It has not been ruled a genocide no matter how often you repeat it. Progressive Jews? Like the ones I mention above? Give me a break.

I never thought I’d see people defend the genocide in Gaza ( and yes it is a genocide ) as a ‘ legitimate defence against terrorism ‘ but here we are too.

Do you ever ask yourselves why progressive people criticise Israel? Or is it all just antisemitism as far as you’re concerned?

I’m pleased you know every left wing person including my Jewish family who definitely don’t support Hamas but equally don’t support Israel, like many Jews…

Look, the Greens have clearly cocked up here and need to rectify it but I’ll say it again, an antisemitic party wouldn’t elect a Jewish leader.

I’m pleased you know every left wing person including my Jewish family who definitely don’t support Hamas but equally don’t support Israel, like many Jews…

Look, the Greens have clearly cocked up here and need to rectify it but I’ll say it again, an antisemitic party wouldn’t elect a Jewish leader.

I never thought I’d see people defend the genocide in Gaza ( and yes it is a genocide ) as a ‘ legitimate defence against terrorism ‘ but here we are too.

Do you ever ask yourselves why progressive people criticise Israel? Or is it all just antisemitism as far as you’re concerned?

It's awful. I never thought people would deny the atrocities of Oct 7th, yet here we are. 💐

Still, she’s got it right on this occasion saying Abi Wilkinson should be sacked as she discredits the Green Party. Unless the leadership of the party agrees with her stance which is all I can assume since they aren’t commenting on it.

Left wing groups all seem.to support Palestine and Hamas and be against Israelis. It doesn't suprise me at all.

Joani Reid has her own problems. Some of this may be virtue signalling to deflect from these. She has a habit of flip flopping depending on her audience. She did nothing at all for women when she was a Lewisham councillor. Very TWAW. Then suddenly she plays at being a feminist. She is very ambitious and presumably sees mileage in knocking some nutty green.

How?

Because I say I don't agree with you?

You are the one hurling personal attacks, not me.

Thank you @Andouillette . That is very kind of you. I was with a friend today and we both said our parents would never believe what is going on today.

Please hear my voice too. 100% support for you, coupled with deep distress and revulsion at the shocking anti semitism we seem to see more and more. I had a dear friend who died a couple of years ago, before his time. He was Jewish and the only small plus to his death (if I can say that) is that he did not live to see the revolting attitudes so prevalent today.

Please hear my voice too. 100% support for you, coupled with deep distress and revulsion at the shocking anti semitism we seem to see more and more. I had a dear friend who died a couple of years ago, before his time. He was Jewish and the only small plus to his death (if I can say that) is that he did not live to see the revolting attitudes so prevalent today.

Thank you @OrangeAxolotyl it is heartening to have voices like yours and @LucyWestenra to balance the rampant anti semitism on here and elsewhere. Most grateful to you x

Joani Reid MP has called for Abi Wilkinson to be sacked by Zack Polanski following these remarks.

I read about it in the Sunday Times. Matthew Syed went to Palestine and out of the 15 Palestinians he asked only 3 were at all interested in a 2 state solution. The other 12 all just wanted to kill all Israelis.

I mean I admit if the West Bank settlers came to my torn and took over and told me to get lost I’d be raging too, but it just goes to show that there are idiots on both sides.

Why can’t people stay away from this thread if all they have to offer is whataboutery or worse 😭

This was started in good faith

Shame on you who seek to derail it

Because it’s about Jewish women

At least own your bigotry

Ffs

Are you actually saying all Palestinians wanted to murder Israelis? If so, I don’t agree. Like any citizen in any country in the world, each Palestinian will have their own view of Israel. I don’t see how you can confidently say that every Palestinian wants to murder every Israeli.

At the moment, almost the entire Arab world including iran has backed a 2 state solution and it is Israel saying no. The Arab world have said no to the solutions on the table in the past though - ie that the solutions were not fair and equitable.

There has been moving around of positions in the last 100 years or so. In terms of normal Palestinians and Israelis there are wide variety of views, ranging from one state which is democratic and not a religious state, to more extreme views.

I am sad that this is even still being debated. This has been covered off before in numerous threads which I have seen, with the same players, and yet it all starts again with false accusations on a new thread!

Indeed. What proportion of Palestinians want a 2 state solution? Because even before 7 October they just wanted to murder every Israeli.

I wasn't talking about this, firstly, I was responding to a poster who said no Muslims want to dress modestly or words to that effect. Secondly there is real life footage posted endlessly from Iran which show women without head scarves walking through streets and markets. I haven't read the article but if it says something different it is probably worth looking at more sources.

Indeed. What proportion of Palestinians want a 2 state solution? Because even before 7 October they just wanted to murder every Israeli.