All this stuff about inflammation

Think this sums it up.

If you don't have a problem, then it's not a problem.

I have tended towards inflammation and, after years, was diagnosed with a condition that explains it. I know wheat causes me problems, I'm mostly dairy free and have a lot of other dietary adjustments. All in conjunction with my specialist.

As a result, I've been able to stay off meds and my blood tests have never been better. My blood sugars even impressed my doctor, my inflammation markers are almost nothing compared to being a bit elevated in the past.

I think it certainly can be a 'thing' but you have to take care over a balanced diet if cutting things out and be sensible about it. Your flat breads would be terrible for me but probably do no harm to you. You know your body, so don't worry what anyone else thinks.

But blood sugar is meant to spike a bit, it's just not meant to go too high or be high all the time. It's not meant to be level all the time either. We're supposed to be able to tolerate a bit of up and down. I'm all for avoiding crappy junk UPFs but OP isn't going to UPF inflammation hell just because she eats her healthy veggies, proteins and fats on a home made white flour flatbread. (I mean, I assume OP's not just bingeing flatbreads piled with marshmallows and Haribo.)

White flour is obviously not good for you , but overall we don’t have to chase perfection. 80/20 is good.

Totally agree.
I have RA and fibromyalgia.
No non carb eating cures it!

My reading has been as high as 871(normal is 6).
I only eat bread twice a week but I love rice. Professor Spector says white rice is the least of people's troubles.
I've lost a lot of weight and no longer drink.
RA attacks the body and I've not seen any real reversal in 22 years.
I'm on the third round of rituximab. Nothing spectacular yet!
Eat those flat breads, they sound delicious.

What i am doing is added the following foods to my diet.
I always ate them but I have really upped them.
Olive oil every day.
Keffir drink or yoghurt.
Fermented veg like kimchi, one teaspoon every other day.
I love pickles too.
Walnuts, almonds, blueberries, to snack on.
Sweet potatoes
Eggs very regularly.
Green veg like broccoli and spinach and carrots.
Bread only occasionally and only good brown sourdough.
I am eating tinned mackeral 2-3 times a week.
I wouldn't touch farmed salmon for anything so mackeral it is.
I love cheese, but not too much.
I love my food and still have a bit of white pasta, the odd potato, white rice and curry etc., but they are not everyday.
I am drinking greentea after dinner every day.
I take vitamin d and k2 every day too.

I was put on Prednisolone which I hated and got myself off it in 3 weeks as whilst it did the job of making me pain free, it really did not agree with me.

This is working for the moment and I am happy to stick with it.
Being pain free is amazing and makes any sacrifice relatively easy.

Oops. Just realised you're the same poster. I thought it was someone else telling me I'd misread the post I was replying to. I should probably check usernames.

Yes, I would suggest going back and asking for a referral. The one I have is psoriatic arthritis. I have a teeny patch of psoriasis on my scalp but, while unusual, you can have it without any psoriasis. There are other types of inflammatory arthritis too but I don't know much about them. I would suggest doing a bit of research on types of inflammatory arthritis before your go to the GP and if any of the symptoms match yours, you have data to back your request.

It's for the worried well - and almost always there will be something to be bought that will help with this - Zoe for example.

How interesting. What foods do you prioritise/avoid?

Sorry, I was talking about the fads and TikTok stuff. I didn't mean to suggest there are no real inflammatory conditions.

I think there is a lot of research around fermentation times. These have dropped in modern processes, yet they are crucial in neutralising and breaking down proteins to make them easier for the body to handle.

This might also explain why other cultures sometimes seem better able to handle those products, especially cultures with more tendency toward traditional processes.

Interesting thread.
I'm 60 and was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease last year and put on strong steroids which I hated and didn't suit me.
I started looking at my diet to reduce inflammation and by really going for it I reduced it dramatically, back to non inflammatory levels.

I dropped weight without trying.
Funny how things that seem very difficult become totally doable overnight, because you are in agony.

I had arthritis blow up in a digit on each hand which was very upsetting and shocking.
Following the diet with a desert spoon on top quality olive every day has me off all medication.
Its certainly worth it to me.

However OP, I certainly don't think your bit of shite flower in an already excellent diet will do you any harm.

My excellent GP said that if I aim for +80% anti inflammatory foods I would be doing really well, so I am.
I still want alcohol so that will be my bit of sugar vice.

These things never figured at all in my 40's and 50's, but if I want to keep fat off my liver, my cholesterol at its good level and my inflammation down, I will try and stick with it.
To be relatively pain free is great.

I agree with the poster above, stress is awful for inflammation.

I was replying to what I thought was a question about what my doctor said to me. Maybe I do need to go back and insist on a referral.

Also how is their flour processed?

I think that's a bit unfair on people who actually do suffer.

The difference from things like the whole detox/skincare thing is that what was being "detoxed" was quite vague, and skin, well, gets old and that is something you choose to try to intervene with, or not.

People who get inflammation can tell you quite specifically what is wrong and it's not just some vague "oh well my skin looks better" or "don't my eyes look sparkly and bright?" when they do the right things for them. It actually eases pain.

I do agree people who probably don't suffer from it have jumped on the bandwagon ...

That will be offset by all the turmeric they are eating ... 😉

Inflammation is a bit like toxins. It's easier to sell a magic cure when it's for something invisible with no symptoms. Look at the skincare industry's use of these terms along with words like "nourishing".

My sister was preaching about UPFs at a family event recently, when we were all trying to enjoy a bit of birthday cake. Her latest buzzword is inflammation… Her body is a temple. She managed to get some cake (and the rest…) into her gob, eventually! I eat well most of the time, but don’t talk about it.

In that case the whole of the Middle East, Turkey, Greece and India must be absolutely riddled with inflammation. Flat breads, pita and naans are consumed every day by almost everyone, and made with white flour.

Huh? No she didn't say tha, at least not in the post I replied to. She said the doctor couldn't explain the inflammation. Regardless, not all cases of inflammatory arthritis affect the joints, particularly at the early stages.

None of my joints were swollen either when I was initially diagnosed. The inflammatory arthritis I have affects ligaments, tendons and entheses as well as joints. The GP was telling me it couldn't be arthritis because of the lack of joint issues.

Huh... She just said it wasn't arthritis / rheumatism as the joints weren't swollen / red / hot. I just take the Naproxen and try not to worry about it (or overdo it on the wrong foods). You've got me worried now. No, there was no referral.