All this stuff about inflammation

I think a lot of people spreading the misinformation have really disordered eating, like the ‘eat clean’ movement ‘raw food’, etc Any excuse to become really controlling about what goes in.

Yes, and some find the gluten in this much more digestible. Some people also like kamut/khorasan better for the same reason, though it's not gluten free.

I think spelt is much closer to what wheat used to be in terms of its profile.

I bought buckwheat flour recently and was surprised to find that it is naturally gluten free, I initially bought it to try to make french gallettes but have mixed some with bread flour to make bread, you could try that. Doves farm. I've also had spelt flour in the past which I believe is an 'ancient grain' but not sure about the gluten in that as we don't need gluten free, I just like trying healthy options and have always cooked from scratch.

Some people can feel when their inflammation is high. I know this is anecdotal, but when I was having weekly lab draws, I noticed the times I felt "inflamed", my white count was higher than usual.

Today's grains are not necessarily those of yesterday. Hybridizing, pollen drift, genetic modifications have changed things.

I do eat bread, but I bake my own and use more mixed grains. I also eat it with some protein and fat, like an egg with mushrooms on avocado rye toast.

Lentils are legumes, not a grain.

I am interested in this as I have just discovered that I have a gluten intolerance. No official diagnosis but clearing of a symptom or 2 I've had for a year, within 24 hours of eliminating gluten.

I need to read up on this. I had been wondering what folk did in the days of old if they couldn't consume it safety. Thanks @Calliopespa

I have a real sweet tooth and eat a lot of sweet stuff - and all my life people have assumed I am younger than I actually am, even now that I'm retired.

Exactly. We have bred grains to be higher gluten and our guts haven't developed to keep up. We have altered food from the way it naturally was.

I've had some wheat this week and I can feel my gut is most definitely not happy. I'm going to have to have a very good couple of weeks to settle it down, I can tell. For some of us, the inflammation is real and measurable.

Your second comment I agree with.

Your first comment I can answer: they used different varieties of grains prepared and processed in different ways. That's the point.

Makes you wonder how anyone ever survived 100 and 1 million years ago.

You can follow all the advise and still become unwell so... enjoy the cake.

:( sorry to hear that x

I remember listening to some dermatologists years ago on the radio whom said sugar was second to fags for aging skin.
I had a serious chocolate habit at the time.

A tiny minority of people may have an obsession with eating pure food but not the general population.

Chronic inflammation is considered a primary, underlying driver of most major modern diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, type 2 diabetes, Alzheimer’s, and autoimmune disorders.

Sugar is one of the leading causes of chronic inflammation and our consumption of sugar has increased significantly over the past few decades (since the fifties in the US and since the seventies in the UK which is why the obesity crisis hit Americans one generation before us).

In the 1950s, 1% of Americans (<5 million people) had type 2 diabetes.
Last year, more than 40 million Americans had type 2 diabetes.

In the 1950s approximately 5% of Americans had fatty liver disease but now 1 in 3 adult Americans is affected and 1 in 10 children.

Chronic inflammation is killing us and knocking years off young people's life expectancy compared to the previous generation.

Sugar makes us age faster.

@notnorman I tried a month off the toms but no different, ditto potatoes.
My readings are too high to respond to anything other than the big guns!

Tomatoes are part of the nightshade family and some people do have to avoid them because they trigger difficulties with RA.

As I wrote above I am thankfully pain free and doing my best via diet etc.

However I have developed a histamine issue called Urticaria, which is basically itchy hives appearing all over my body, often at night.
An anti histamine does the trick but it is driving me mad.

Anyone ever deal with this?

Interestingly my friend with RA was told by her Harley Street rheumatologist not to eat tomatoes. When I mentioned it to my NHS consultant she fell about laughing.

When I was a lot heavier I was constantly tested for diabetes. I don't have it because I eat a mostly vegetarian diet. As I don't eat sweet foods or drink alcohol I hope not to develop it.

I lost the majority of my weight in 22/23 and have kept it off.

A lot of this is orthorexia dressed up with partial and dubious science. As PPs have pointed out inflammation is part of the body’s natural process. Unless its associated with an autoimmune condition or another health issue it’s very normal and not something you could or should use food to “control”.

The hysteria over refined grains is really off the scale too. Everyone knows that subsisting on a diet of white carbs isn’t healthy for many reasons but the idea that they are some sort of toxin which needs to be eliminated is just bad science.

Eat a balanced diet with plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables and not too much refined food. The basics have not changed despite what the wellness cranks will tell you.

I have fibromyalgia and carbs of any description apart from veggies make my pain much worse. I am far better just eating meat. I don’t- but on keto I’m pain free.

Sorry to jump in … you mentioned freezing them. How do you defrost and reheat them? Do they reheat well?

They are fine op if you have no gluten intolerances, are not diabetic etc.

But it's just about being realistic that they lie in the 20 percent "not ideal" portion of an 80/20 kind of diet.