To wonder what’s so bad about school?

Tommy comes from a gypsy family and homeschooling isn't uncommon for them which probably gives them a different perspectives

Thank you for choosing to be a teacher. I appreciate you x

I think "business woman" is a wee bit of a stretch 😂

Because I am making money from posting, like she is, with you all clicking away on her posts? Why are people obsessed with what influencers think anyway and naive enough to think they post for anything other than money and influence?

There's no chance she will do anything herself, she admits herself she struggles to spend time around her child. Plus it would interfere terribly with her coffee drinking and watching Shrek on a loop.

I honestly don’t think schools are any stricter than they need to be. DD and DS are both very different children, DD is loud and can be a bit boisterous and DS sometimes needs some encouragement to come out of his shell. They both need some strictness it’s just different kinds - DD needs to be told to calm down and DS needs to be pushed to speak up. I’ve found since they started school they’ve been a lot better regulated. DS has especially come out of his shell and I think a lot of that is down to his teacher who’s nice and offers reassurance but is pretty firm with pushing him to get out of his comfort zone little by little.

Teachers have to be strict, some kids are absolute terrors. A good teacher knows how to strike balance between classroom control and nurturing children.

I'm a primary school teacher.
Class sizes get bigger. They widen and widen and widen the bandwidth of who gets a mainstream education. I end up with 30 kids in my class, over half of whom have needs I simply cannot meet. Not simultaniously. Not while delivering T1 learning to those who can learn at standard. I'm just one person. I'm certainly not blaming the kids - their needs are complex and varied. And there is a social and parenting trend to shy away from building resilience, so these kids are coached to expect everything to change for them. I can't do it. I do my best, but it's not enough. School is a chaotic and stressful place to be for many children.

These same kids go home and both parents are working and exhaused, and the child is overstimulated from a day at school, so they get screen time as down time and that just makes everything worse.

Strangely how many people on here commenting didn't like school themselves and now their kids don't.

If everyone "home educated" and it's in speech marks for a reason, then the country is stuffed. Most home educated kids I have met are far from educated, getting little actual teaching but being given "experiences" all the time. That said a few are wonderfully stretched and well in advance of their peer group because the parents have actually done some research, paid for academic resources and MADE the kids learn.

Most of the comments here and MMs clearly dislike their kids being made to learn in a structured way

Because UK schools start too early, hours are too long and “good” schools are run like prisons

Well according to a few on this thread she's a bit dim so the "professionals" didn't do much of a job there did they?

I don’t blame her, my kids hate school. If I had the money and support to home educated then I would.

GCSEs aren’t a good measure of intelligence. Some of the smartest, most successful people I know have very few qualifications due to various factors during their education. DH (an airline pilot with a physics degree..) has 4 GCSEs to his name. English isn’t even one of them! Also know of a high 6 figure CEO/political consultant with absolutely no GCSEs. Both incredibly intelligent people in their own right - just not the traditional sense!

I think it was more that she doesn't feel she's ready yet. The kid is only three I think? So it's true they don't have to put her in school yet.
But she risks a lot of important socialisation if she doesn't try and ease her into educational environments gradually. Otherwise it probably will be a shock if she's been at home only to be with so many other kids.

But I certainly hope they don't go for home schooling. I don't think either are academic enough to provide this to a meaningful level.

In which case everything you have posted on here is fake.

She doesn't come from an educated background herself.

She's one of those influencer types. She doesn't believe in education and thinks you can make it all on social media. It's worked for her because she's pretty and the right things came at the right time but it's an overly staurated market. She was extremely extremely lucky. Most people (especially girls) should work hard at school and not expect to randomly become an influencer.

Both my children attend school but it has messed them up, one is crippled by OCD after years of bullying at primary school (though things are looking up now he’s started high school) and my other is just a complete mess every evening after school and I put it down the trauma of being at school. I can’t homeschool as I don’t think I’d do a very good job and online school is too expensive. I understand people wanting out of the education system.

I deeply regret sending my children to school. My eldest has ended up with a chronic health condition due to school stress and is unlikely to ever recover, she's disabled and her future prospects are dire. She effectively missed due years of school after that made her ill because they didn't want to provide her with education outside school. My youngest was struggling due to send and complete lack of proper support so I took him out a few years ago and now he's over the trauma of having been at school he's a different child, so happy and doing really well.

I'm wish I had home educated from the beginning. Schools are terrible places for children's wellbeing.

I think most kids enjoy school for the most part. My dd loved primary, now in year 10 moans about school but is doing really well and has a group of friends. My nieces and nephews all love school and have done/ are doing very well. I’m in Ireland though and schools are different. Teachers are respected and there isn’t the same behavioural issues gauging from my own experience of the UK and what I hear on MN.

I loved learning but hated school and my daughter is pretty much the same now. At least in primary school we had decent PE and got to take our work outside when it was really sunny and had proper green space to play on - all of primary schools did. All the little good things about primary school are harder and harder to come by now. My impression is that everything is a bit frantic and frenetic in primary schools now.

I had a terrible time all the way through school because I was bullied the whole time by both kids and teachers. It turns out I had undiagnosed audhd and was ignored my whole school life. My two children are home educated and have been from birth, Schools are awful places for neurodivergent children.

From what I've seen I don't think TF and MM are in any way fit to home educate.

Although I guess that education doesn't matter when you're raising another influencer.

She almost certainly means with a private tutor.

School broke my daughter's spirit. It was a large school and just about crowd control. I like rules but think they should have common sense. The school was just about results and was churning out kids with no common sense or life skills because they werent even allowed to chose their own pens!

I have a DD the same age and feel the same about secondary, she didn’t mind primary, but absolutely loathes secondary. At my dd’s school they give out detentions for everything, even genuine mistakes or misunderstandings, there’s no room to explain yourself, or learn from mistakes.

I’m not against detentions but also don’t feel they serve much of a purpose when they’re given out so often. During the actual detention at my dd’s school, the kids get put in a room with a random member of staff with the news on, they talk amongst themselves, mess about etc until the clock has run down. It doesn’t seem like a deterrent at all, more like an after school club. My dd has actually said that sometimes getting a detention for not doing homework is a good payoff as the detention is only 20mins whereas the homework takes longer than that to complete. We’ve now started having consequences at home for detentions, like taking away devices and not going out with friends, because it was getting out of hand and I don’t like the above mentality she’s developing but I believe it’s being perpetuated in the school environment due to how they handle things. There’s no discussion on what they did wrong, it's just do your time and off you go. It's not something we’ve encouraged at home at all, we want her to succeed and be a good student.

When I was at school and got detention, it was with the teacher who gave it, and they would chat with me about why I was there. If it was for no homework or not doing work in class, then I’d be expected to complete the work during the detention, rather than sitting around dossing for half an hour and we certainly weren’t allowed to chat with each other or have a laugh. I never needed further punishment at home because the detention was enough for me to understand I’d done wrong. Could probably count the number of detentions I got on one hand, which isn’t the case for my dd sadly.

It feels like they do it just to show ofsted they are dealing with behaviour, but they’re not actually properly dealing with issues or trying to deter it at all. I have sympathy with schools as managing the behaviour of nearly a thousand teens and pre-teens is never going to be straight forward but the blanket approach they now have doesn’t seem effective either.

They also seem incredibly controlling. There’s a shop down the road and round the corner from the school, they had four members of staff hanging around there recently to tell kids to put their ties on and tuck shirts in. That’s ridiculous to me, if they’re concerned about behaviour or fighting that’s one thing, but doing it just to police their uniform outside of school gates and outside of school hours just rubs me the wrong way.

I understand why some parents decide to home educate now.

Her child is only just 3, so presumably she’s not looking at state schools for her yet. I live near her, and a lot of the private schools around here do have reputations for being strict so it’s a reasonable concern for her to have.