Page 4 | To think Keir Starmer has set us up to be the target of war strikes?

DotAndCarryOne2 · 02/03/2026 08:55

timeserved · 02/03/2026 08:50

They have been weeks or months away for years or even decades. They were days away from agreeing to give up stockpiles of enriched uranium - it was on the table for the first time ever. Also don't forget that Khamenei was actually strongly against nuclear weapons for religious reasons, placing a fatwa on them. If he was a devout Muslim, which we assume he was, then a pretend fatwa just to trick the West would be blasphemy - is that likely?

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I think to answer that question we have to ask ourselves why they have stockpiles of enriched uranium if they are religiously opposed to the use of nuclear weapons.

AStonedRose · 02/03/2026 08:53

timeserved · 02/03/2026 08:50

They have been weeks or months away for years or even decades. They were days away from agreeing to give up stockpiles of enriched uranium - it was on the table for the first time ever. Also don't forget that Khamenei was actually strongly against nuclear weapons for religious reasons, placing a fatwa on them. If he was a devout Muslim, which we assume he was, then a pretend fatwa just to trick the West would be blasphemy - is that likely?

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Yep. Definite echoes of the 'dodgy dossier' and non-existent chemical weapons before the second Gulf War. We can't know for sure, but I'd be very surprised if this were true.

MikeRafone · 02/03/2026 08:52

KimberleyClark · 02/03/2026 07:27

War strikes from whom?

Iran has allies who have the capability to reach several UK bases

timeserved · 02/03/2026 08:50

DotAndCarryOne2 · 02/03/2026 08:39

According to reports Iran were weeks away from having nuclear capability. In that event we would be just as much a target as anyone else, so it was in our interests to help out. Unless you think it’s acceptable that we allow others on the world stage to do our dirty work for us and we just accept the benefits ?

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They have been weeks or months away for years or even decades. They were days away from agreeing to give up stockpiles of enriched uranium - it was on the table for the first time ever. Also don't forget that Khamenei was actually strongly against nuclear weapons for religious reasons, placing a fatwa on them. If he was a devout Muslim, which we assume he was, then a pretend fatwa just to trick the West would be blasphemy - is that likely?

DotAndCarryOne2 · 02/03/2026 08:48

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Nope. That’s all you I’m afraid. Different thread, different topic. I speak as l find. My compassion lies with the innocents caught up in the conflict, however that came about. What’s happening now is about what divides us. Why create even more division with top trumps ?

LasVegass · 02/03/2026 08:45

The UK had to take a side, of course it had to be this one.

CharlotteRumpling · 02/03/2026 08:45

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BlackRowan · 02/03/2026 08:44

CharlotteRumpling · 02/03/2026 07:59

I did until this week.
I now pity British-Iranians who went there to see dying mums, and actual Iranians.

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Oh, only now?

SeaGlassDreamer · 02/03/2026 08:43

Feels like we are damned if we do and damned if we don’t.

I’ve seen some politicians calling for us to play a bigger role in the war and saying that we are weak because we aren’t doing so. I’ve seen other politicians calling our Government weak for not condemning the US. There used to be a time when politicians on all sides would stand together publicly in situations like this and disagree privately. Those days are long gone and it’s no surprise the country is as divided as it is.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 02/03/2026 08:42

CharlotteRumpling · 02/03/2026 07:59

I did until this week.
I now pity British-Iranians who went there to see dying mums, and actual Iranians.

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Selective compassion. Nice.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 02/03/2026 08:39

sundayvibeswig22 · 02/03/2026 07:53

He’s a lame duck. Rolling over to USA and Israel again.

According to reports Iran were weeks away from having nuclear capability. In that event we would be just as much a target as anyone else, so it was in our interests to help out. Unless you think it’s acceptable that we allow others on the world stage to do our dirty work for us and we just accept the benefits ?

Chersfrozenface · 02/03/2026 08:35

OP, you do know Nigel Farage and Kemi Badenoch have backed Donald Trump’s strikes on Iran, don't you?

BlackRowan · 02/03/2026 08:34

The lack of history knowledge is breathtaking. Do you think UK has been an ally or neutral towards Iran all these years?

also why aren’t you worried about UK being a target of Russian war strikes because of supporting Ukraine?
Thats far more likely because Russian missiles are absolutely pointed at the UK targets AND can reach them. Nuclear missiles may I add.
Iran doesn’t have long range missiles let alone nuclear ones.

AStonedRose · 02/03/2026 08:33

Carlie97 · 02/03/2026 07:25

He's a dick.

fgs. Does your teacher know you’re on Mumsnet?

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 08:32

Quine0nline · 02/03/2026 08:22

Rather than submitting to an islamic fascist theocracy?
Did your husband tell to to say that?

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Oh grow up. This isn't submitting. This is Trump and Netanyahu war mongering. There is no need for the UK to be involved in another illegal war.

MushMonster · 02/03/2026 08:30

It is neither men or women. It is a huge collection of egomaniacs, most likely psychopaths of the greatest range, governing us.
We seem to have no real politicians left. Neither for internal or international affairs.

EleanorReally · 02/03/2026 08:24

surely the threat to US must be higher though

EleanorReally · 02/03/2026 08:24

the current threat is Substantial

Quine0nline · 02/03/2026 08:22

sundayvibeswig22 · 02/03/2026 07:53

He’s a lame duck. Rolling over to USA and Israel again.

Rather than submitting to an islamic fascist theocracy?
Did your husband tell to to say that?

MushMonster · 02/03/2026 08:17

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 07:48

Are you sure it's not Iran's making?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98wjzj4jlpo

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I cannot be sure, of course. I am just saying what I think would make more sense for Iran, right now.
I think drawing Europe and UK into it would not be on their list right now.
Future..... high threat indeed.

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Carlie97 · 02/03/2026 08:11

Another observation I made was this is all down to MEN. You don't see women planning to inflict suffering and killing innocent civilians through war much.

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Dollymylove · 02/03/2026 08:10

Its highly that the UK will be attacked. Not if but when. This has been on the cards long before the Iran strikes.
There are so many people currently holed up in hotels whom we have NO IDEA who they really are.
Brace yourselves because it will come

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 08:07

It was only a few weeks ago Trump was saying the UK did nothing in Afghanistan. Why are we now giving the orange one use of our airbases for what is clearly a illegal attack?

CloudPop · 02/03/2026 08:05

So it’s Keir Starmer’s fault that the US bombed Iran ?

Lemonfrost · 02/03/2026 08:04

Carlie97 · 02/03/2026 07:25

He's a dick.

Thanks for that striking piece of political analysis. Maybe read a little, educate yourself and think about the bigger picture.