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To think Keir Starmer has set us up to be the target of war strikes?

137 replies

Carlie97 · 02/03/2026 07:25

He's a dick.

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noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:52

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 13:48

Celebrate war if you like. I'm pretty anti war in most circumstances. Iran having nuclear weapons is just the same weapons of mass destruction lie the US used when they wanted to get Iraqi oil. You can tell it is lies because it was only a few month ago Netanyahu and Trump when on their last bombing jolly and said they had set back the programme decades.

I'm not celebrating war.

But if Iranians are celebrating the murder of their Supreme Leader, then perhaps it wasn't an entirely bad thing.

Of course if you'd have preferred him to continue massacring innocent protesters/gays/women that's up to you.

FloralDeerPattern · 02/03/2026 13:50

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:41

I don't think it's good to murder 35,000 people for protesting either, or to murder women for showing a bit of hair, or to hang gays from cranes.

These people suggesting that Iran was close to agreeing nuclear deals or whatever to try to get them off the hook are absolutely deranged.

Yes i don't think anyone has said that it is good to murder protesters have they? Are people defending that because all I have seen is people defending the degradation of the laws that are in place to protect sovereign countries and the lives and dignity of people. Israel is being ran by man who has warrants out for his arrest for war crimes, it has just broken international law again, started an illegal war and you are worried that people are 'bleating Israel bad'? Why would it worry you that people are criticising this behaviour?

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 13:48

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:38

Iran wants to destroy Israel, not merely Netanyahu. I'm not sure you'll find many fans of Iran in Israel.

Celebrate war if you like. I'm pretty anti war in most circumstances. Iran having nuclear weapons is just the same weapons of mass destruction lie the US used when they wanted to get Iraqi oil. You can tell it is lies because it was only a few month ago Netanyahu and Trump when on their last bombing jolly and said they had set back the programme decades.

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:41

FloralDeerPattern · 02/03/2026 13:33

Do you think it is 'good' to break international law and start illegal wars? Is it really that straight forward do you think or do you think the situation might just be a bit more nuanced than some people are claiming it to be?

I don't think it's good to murder 35,000 people for protesting either, or to murder women for showing a bit of hair, or to hang gays from cranes.

These people suggesting that Iran was close to agreeing nuclear deals or whatever to try to get them off the hook are absolutely deranged.

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:38

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 13:33

Not Israel bad, Netanyahu bad. That is the not the same thing. Many Israeli's are disgusted at their war mongering leader.

Iran wants to destroy Israel, not merely Netanyahu. I'm not sure you'll find many fans of Iran in Israel.

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 13:33

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:27

Well, I dunno, commenting in hushed tones that Netanyahu would like to see Iran destroyed without mentioning that Iran has been working really hard to destroy Israel seems like a bit of a biased analysis of the situation.

It certainly comes across like some people can do nothing other than bleat 'Israel bad'.

Not Israel bad, Netanyahu bad. That is the not the same thing. Many Israeli's are disgusted at their war mongering leader.

FloralDeerPattern · 02/03/2026 13:33

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:27

Well, I dunno, commenting in hushed tones that Netanyahu would like to see Iran destroyed without mentioning that Iran has been working really hard to destroy Israel seems like a bit of a biased analysis of the situation.

It certainly comes across like some people can do nothing other than bleat 'Israel bad'.

Do you think it is 'good' to break international law and start illegal wars? Is it really that straight forward do you think or do you think the situation might just be a bit more nuanced than some people are claiming it to be?

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:27

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 13:20

Of course they are not poor and innocent. When did I say that?

I still think Netanyahu is a war criminal and so does the ICC. If he was innocent he would prove it.

Schools attacked in Iran it's just more of the same old Netanyahu tactics.

Trump assasinating a leader to stop them getting nuclear weapons when he shows no interest in giving up his own massive arsenal is pure hypocrisy,.

Well, I dunno, commenting in hushed tones that Netanyahu would like to see Iran destroyed without mentioning that Iran has been working really hard to destroy Israel seems like a bit of a biased analysis of the situation.

It certainly comes across like some people can do nothing other than bleat 'Israel bad'.

Scarlettpixie · 02/03/2026 13:27

Carlie97 · 02/03/2026 07:25

He's a dick.

You do know that Reform and the Conservatives are supporting Trump's strikes don't you?

Seems likely we would be getting more involved not less if one of them were in charge.

Also a terrorist attack, likely from UK citizens is far more likely than 'war strikes' whatever those are.

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 13:20

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:13

Poor, innocent Iran, right?

You know there's a clock in Tehran that counts down to the destruction of Israel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Square_Countdown_Clock

Do you think that Iran hasn't been trying to destroy Israel through the terrorist groups it funds like Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis?

Of course they are not poor and innocent. When did I say that?

I still think Netanyahu is a war criminal and so does the ICC. If he was innocent he would prove it.

Schools attacked in Iran it's just more of the same old Netanyahu tactics.

Trump assasinating a leader to stop them getting nuclear weapons when he shows no interest in giving up his own massive arsenal is pure hypocrisy,.

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 13:13

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 12:12

Netanyahu gave a press conference saying he has been waiting 40 years to destroy Iran like this. Netanyahu is a war criminal who needs to be locked up.

Poor, innocent Iran, right?

You know there's a clock in Tehran that counts down to the destruction of Israel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Square_Countdown_Clock

Do you think that Iran hasn't been trying to destroy Israel through the terrorist groups it funds like Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis?

Palestine Square Countdown Clock - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Square_Countdown_Clock

MrsFinkelstein · 02/03/2026 12:51

LadyVioletBridgerton · 02/03/2026 12:21

Yes please. He’s an absolute knob cheese.

Shouldn't you be in school?

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 12:31

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/03/2026 12:18

Netanyahu is a tyrant. Trump is his puppet. Use your words not your weapons, or you’ll get hurt too.
Toddler stuff.
Iran is a horrible country with a warmongering government who hates their citizens, I’m not surprised they are retaliating with force.

It's the most dangerous situation when you have two leaders who believe that they are fighting for their "god".

LadyVioletBridgerton · 02/03/2026 12:21

Itstartedinbarcelona · 02/03/2026 07:38

Yep part of the let’s blame Keir Starmer for everything campaign.

Yes please. He’s an absolute knob cheese.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/03/2026 12:18

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 12:12

Netanyahu gave a press conference saying he has been waiting 40 years to destroy Iran like this. Netanyahu is a war criminal who needs to be locked up.

Netanyahu is a tyrant. Trump is his puppet. Use your words not your weapons, or you’ll get hurt too.
Toddler stuff.
Iran is a horrible country with a warmongering government who hates their citizens, I’m not surprised they are retaliating with force.

MushMonster · 02/03/2026 12:13

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 12:12

Netanyahu gave a press conference saying he has been waiting 40 years to destroy Iran like this. Netanyahu is a war criminal who needs to be locked up.

No surprises there.
We have to give him this, he is honest.

Dragonflytamer · 02/03/2026 12:12

MushMonster · 02/03/2026 12:06

Sorry, but it was Trump and Netanyahu who started it, yet again, after abandoning negotiations, yet again.
If anything further was going on behind the screens, I do not have access to it. So ask the pertinent guys.

Netanyahu gave a press conference saying he has been waiting 40 years to destroy Iran like this. Netanyahu is a war criminal who needs to be locked up.

MushMonster · 02/03/2026 12:06

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 07:48

Are you sure it's not Iran's making?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98wjzj4jlpo

Sorry, but it was Trump and Netanyahu who started it, yet again, after abandoning negotiations, yet again.
If anything further was going on behind the screens, I do not have access to it. So ask the pertinent guys.

SerendipityJane · 02/03/2026 10:10

Ginmonkeyagain · 02/03/2026 07:32

Also is everyone here under 30 or something? We've been here before (many many many times) with the middle east. Not once were there "war strikes" on the UK.

Terrorism committed by UK residents (and often citizens), yes.

I grew up in the 70s. Nothing here scares me.

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 02/03/2026 09:31

Carlie97 · 02/03/2026 08:11

Another observation I made was this is all down to MEN. You don't see women planning to inflict suffering and killing innocent civilians through war much.

Are you 15?

Thats a puerile observation.

If you want to look at this in terms of men/women perhaps you might want to consider how subjugated women are in Iran...

Then perhaps you could consider whether women are more or less sympathetic to their plight, and whether women's solution to that problem (whatever that might be) would be more or less effective.

I give you no answers. I kinda hope you might learn to be less one-dimensional in your thinking.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 02/03/2026 09:19

FloralDeerPattern · 02/03/2026 09:04

Netanyahu was first recorded saying that Iran were 'weeks away' in 1995. Unless weeks means decades in Israel it's safe to say that the man with a warrant out for his arrest for war crimes and crimes against humanity who is leading the charge on this illegal war is full of shit.

The reports came from US weapons experts and the IAEA. They didn’t say Iran was weeks away from building a viable nuclear weapon, but that it’s weeks away from securing enough fissile material for an eventual weapon - in other words the capability to enrich uranium to 90%. According to the IAEA, Iran is the only non-nuclear-weapon state in the world that is producing and accumulating uranium enriched to 60% and stockpiling it to levels far beyond what is needed for civil use.

Araminta1003 · 02/03/2026 09:14

There are loads of Iranian and Russian bots all over the internet trying to stir people up, including Muslims here who may be upset (who make for easy targets to manipulate). I would be extremely careful if I were eg a dual British Pakistani or just had indefinite leave to remain from any other country.

UK will be doing what France and Germany does which is absolutely right and they will be working with their allies.
All people should be careful to not make themselves enemies of the state, and yes, it includes eg naive students voting for the Green Party who may just be trying to buy votes. But that can come at a cost.
Look if there were WW3 why would you possibly put yourself out there online and be a massive prick about it.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/03/2026 09:12

The risk of retaliation is huge. I would blame DT before KS.
The propaganda machines have been working overtime, online mouth pieces breeding hate, concerned citizens terrified, it’s a disaster.

noblegiraffe · 02/03/2026 09:08

timeserved · 02/03/2026 08:50

They have been weeks or months away for years or even decades. They were days away from agreeing to give up stockpiles of enriched uranium - it was on the table for the first time ever. Also don't forget that Khamenei was actually strongly against nuclear weapons for religious reasons, placing a fatwa on them. If he was a devout Muslim, which we assume he was, then a pretend fatwa just to trick the West would be blasphemy - is that likely?

I’m sure that the country that just murdered 35,000-odd of its own civilians is totally trustworthy when it comes to international negotiations.

Devout Muslims wouldn’t murder innocent people after all Hmm

FloralDeerPattern · 02/03/2026 09:04

timeserved · 02/03/2026 08:50

They have been weeks or months away for years or even decades. They were days away from agreeing to give up stockpiles of enriched uranium - it was on the table for the first time ever. Also don't forget that Khamenei was actually strongly against nuclear weapons for religious reasons, placing a fatwa on them. If he was a devout Muslim, which we assume he was, then a pretend fatwa just to trick the West would be blasphemy - is that likely?

Netanyahu was first recorded saying that Iran were 'weeks away' in 1995. Unless weeks means decades in Israel it's safe to say that the man with a warrant out for his arrest for war crimes and crimes against humanity who is leading the charge on this illegal war is full of shit.