To think it will be revealed WLI cause physical aging

Those women you know would look exactly the same if they’d followed a diet that made them lose weight quickly. It’s not the jabs, it’s the rapid weight loss.

My internal organs are thanking me!
My heart via reduced blood pressure? Kidneys due to reduced blood pressure. My pancreas as it’s not pounded dealing with sugar and my liver as it’s no longer managing crap!

Flappy skin is a very acceptable side effect when overall general meaningful health is improved.

yep, I’m happy to be in a better position to have longevity to be around, fit and well for my children.

How about we stop attacking women full stop ? She’s 41 , has battled with eating issues her whole life indoctrinated from her mother and both of them are dealing with the loss of their dad / life long partner. She’s no thinner than most actors / models these days and people need to back off - she’s admitted she is struggling with the grief aspect so why pile on to make her feel worse ? And yes I doubt she will read mumsnet but honestly the constant media criticism must be extremely damaging to her

There are millions of years of patient data for GLP-1s.

i don’t think you’ll be seeing this es court cases you appear to be gleefully anticipating

This. People on WLI who are under 35 look young and fresh… because they are.

This. People on WLI who are under 35 look young and fresh… because they are.

Don't pretend this is some altruistic move on your part. You're using her current appearance to hammer her. Jesus, haven't we had enough of women tearing women apart over their looks by now? It was so obvious watching her at the BRITS that her frailty isn't about WLI. She's BROKEN by grief.

How would a GLP1 medication cause internal organs aging, I would love for you to discuss your reasoning behind this and how you think this is physiologically happening.

Of course the physical aging look makes sense as it would with any rapid weightloss - have you never seen any (sad) photos of people suffering from anorexia, a teenager can look like they are in their 40s.

As the saying goes, at a certain age you can either have a nice face or a nice arse. Thin is more ageing to look at.

Save lives? You wot?

Obesity also causes accelerated / premature cellular aging. So what’s your point?

But if he had lost the same amount of weight without monjauro it would have same effect surely

I’m not sure you can use the Osbornes as a good example as they’re practically made of plastic these days and so there’s not much natural left to look at regardless of WLI.

I do think sadly that WLI are going to be revealed as a medical scandal in 5/10 years time when the real longer term health effects become apparent.

As it is the impact on the pancreas and gall bladder is already known and I personally already know two people who ended up in hospital because of the jabs, and both of whom now need gall bladder removals and have pancreas damage.

But nobody who is doing well on the jabs wants to hear that, because if you’re desperate to lose weight, you’re given an out and you take it and do well on it, then it’s not a message you want to hear that you’re likely doing yourself other damage in the process.

It’s understandable, and nobody should be judged for wanting the jabs if they’re seriously obese.

But that doesn’t mean that the effects should be discarded.

It’s like any medication, it’s a fact of benefit vs risk, and IMO it’s only a matter of time before it becomes apparent that the risks outweigh the benefits in many instances and the criteria become more tightened.

But then it is not the WLI themselves that are causing the physical signs of aging, it’s the abuse of WLI by people that don’t need them. Stopping the abuse of unnecessary medication is a different issue. I’m saying for the vast majority of people the benefits outweigh the risks (my GP certainly thinks so).

If people are taking extreme measures then that is a different issue, I’m not seeing this in real life (although you may be).

I agree. DH aged terribly while on Mounjaro. Yes he lost the weight but he looked really ill. He stopped taking them and has put some weight back on but his face has still aged from what it was before

People who are lying about their BMI, not telling their GP they are on WLI only have themselves to blame.

There is overwhelming evidence that these drugs improve heart health, reduce cancer risk etc.

It’s too soon for there to be overwhelming evidence of anything long term. I won’t be around to see it but I suspect it’ll be a health scandal in 30/40 years.

Oh for god sake, let fat people lose weight at they see fit and stop being so judgey. It’s tiresome.

Many (majority) of people use WLIs as a tool alongside healthy habits - nutrition, weight training etc.

Of course, a minority abuse them.

I agree with PP, I think you're conflating cosmetic ageing with physiological ageing. There is overwhelming evidence that these drugs improve heart health, reduce cancer risk etc. It's the severe reduction of fat in the face that makes some users look older.

You also can't claim that that's the reason why Kelly O looks frail. She's still deep in grieving her dad's death and there's obviously a lot going on with her now. I think it's pretty bad taste to start a thread invoking her name for the basis of your argument.

A friend of mine lost 9 stone This was before the WLI. He didn't look much older after due to saggy skin etc

People with cash and access to less than reputable private prescribers have always been able to buy their drugs of choice.

Oh what twaddle.

Looking older due to loose skin is not the same as 'physically aging'.

Looking older is a problem encountered by anyone losing too much weight, whatever method they use.

I have lost 29kg on WLI, but on low doses, slowly over a year and have been going to the gym 4 times a week and doing lots of weights/strength work.

I look much younger than my age, and don't have lots of loose skin. Indeed I am starting to look quite lean and a little defined, exactly how you would expect someone who works out regularly to look.

Using Boditrax machines my metabolic age is 15 years younger than my actual age