Dh still wants to book a holiday to dubai in Oct?

YANBU, go to the Canary Islands, it’s still warm in winter (like our summer) and you can hopefully avoid war, terrorism, funding slavery etc. Edited to add, it’s half the plane time and a lot cheaper, too.

It’s very naive to think this will all blow over, the world is being pushed into ever greater instability, and if it’s not this particular war it will be something else.

Some people do lots of mental gymnastics to try and justify their view that women are treated well in the middle East because they like Dubai holidays

I remember a Scottish politician - fairly well known writing a blog saying that she could still be a feminist and care about women's rights and holiday in Dubai and that going to Dubai on holiday was empowering

A load of tosh and she knew it

I would probably encourage him look at alternatives for this year op. It may be fine, but it’s a big risk to take if you don’t need to.

If you go to Dubai you are either deliberately turning a blind eye to what happens to the workers, or you just really don’t care.

And the it’s “fashionable” to bash Dubai. Since when it is fashionable to care about human rights? Human rights are not fashionable now, nor will they ever be. Because too many people just don’t care.

This really really angers me. Dubai is a city built by & run by slaves. The human rights abuses are well documented & no secret.

Your hotel is spotless, your spa is fab, your food is delicious. And the people making all that happen have no employment rights, may have had their passport removed so they are stuck in Dubai, goodness knows what they are being paid, love in shanty towns and people want to holiday there?!!

I would never want anyone to get hurt obviously, but the people stuck in Dubai right now are experiencing a fraction of the stress experienced by those workers every single day of the lives.

It's far more than kissing in public. How are women treated in that country? What's their life like? What's the Govts record on human rights?
Oh women are dripping in gold are they? That makes it better doesn't it?

Have you ever read properly how women are treated in the Middle East or do you just park all of that because you like sunshine and shopping malls?

You're entitled to have as many holidays as you like and go where you want to go - but it's fine for people to have opposing views

Cyprus? I don’t think so.

Can’t understand why anyone with any conscience would visit there even before all this trouble started.

Why would anyone want to visit a mall in the desert where immigrants from poorer countries are treated like slaves?!

It’ll probably be faster than that but still booking rn seems a bit much. At least wait a few weeks.

It could be months before flights are back to normal. Anyone with any sense would go elsewhere

Dubai is a very fake place, built by modern day slavery. If you like shopping malls, hotels, restaurants then go for it. If you like nature, animals, showing affection, green spaces then maybe other parts of the world. I have a friend who loves it, and a friend who hates it.

So you are fine supporting a country that actively, willingly and knowingly has slave labour?

With so many other beautiful places to go in the world to visit such a horrible plastic place that actively encourages slavery is beyond that pale.

There isn’t anything nice about it. And no I don’t think people who travel there have a conscience nor care about other people who are actively abused.

I don’t care about their laws - countries can have the laws they want and as a tourist you should obey them.

Don’t be silly. There are plenty of countries to visit that are not built by modern day slaves and are not serviced by modern day slaves.

If you park the issue over whether you think people should go to Dubai - I would suspect that any travel insurance would be invalid as he would be booking a trip in the middle of national/international conflict knowing there is a risk and while there is a live foreign office advisory note published. I’d wait and book in aug/sept if he really wants to go and when you know if things have settled down and the govt advisory has been lifted.

Until then, yes, he’s mad (or just stupid).

Will you even get insurance if you were to book now? If he thinks it'll all blow over soon then it'll be no great shakes to wait til it has.

I love Dubai and have holidayed there a lot over the last 15 years. However he’s off his fucking head to book anything now. Park the idea and see what the situation is like in September. But I think it’s very unlikely and it will take them years to build trust with western tourists after this.

It sounds bloody awful, a city built on conspicuous consumption where ‘dripping with gold’ is considered to be a good thing. All the while knowing that there is forced labour supporting this lifestyle.

Where you’re relying on people turning a blind a to you being able to live your private life in private and you’re not able to relax and behave naturally in public.

There is literally no part of this which sounds remotely appealing.

There is a world of difference between this and drunk young women (interesting that it’s only the women you don’t like) staggering down the road wearing clothes that leave nothing to the imagination. If you don’t like that, there are many other places to go on holiday

Yes, very worrying!

To get back to the thread - OP, I wouldn’t be booking to go there at the moment. Personally it’s not on my list of places to go anyway, but either way it doesn’t seem wise to tie up your deposit money on a trip that might not happen and might not be insured.

This reminds me of the week before the covid lockdown when my sister merrily announced she’d booked a holiday to Greece for the Easter holidays. She was convinced everything would be back to normal quickly. I guess optimism is a good trait.

Is this a pisstake?
Leave him book it if hes that stupid.
Id be saying you can book all ya like but i wont be getting on the plane.
Shameful ignorance on his part.
Is he like this in your everyday life?
I actually couldnt live with such a fool.

Well, he should get a bargain.

Relying on them to turn a blind eye is quite risky. Sometimes they don't.

I suspect not. But @Redrobinrose won't be able to get travel insurance right now. People are having issues with travel they've already booked as it is...

defo not