Trouble with mine AND next doors dog

Absolutely this. Tell them to only let their own dog out when they are supervising it.

If you end up chatting with them about how to manage it, say you’ve been reading up and it helps if WE do x,y,z. Then, ‘So are we going to keep the doors closed then?’, so both sides are following the same system.

Someone I know had a little flag on the shared fence that each put up while their dog was out. It meant both sides knew the score before letting the dog out.

Don't tell your dog off, you're just increasing the stress levels in an already stressful situation and/or he thinks you're joining in. You can't ignore it either because responding is self-reinforcing, and he will start to go out there looking for stuff to bark at.

Go the other way - make hearing next doors dog the BEST thing that can happen out there, pair it with high value treats and fun from you. This is classical counter conditioning, pairing the currently upsetting event with something really really good until your dog thinks this other dog barking/growling/making noise is a great thing and he actively feels good about it.

Don't wait and see if yours barks, then take action.

Don't ask yours to shush then reward.

Literally, pair next door noise with treats, until your dogs automatic and instinctive response is to look to you and he's feeling good, and when that happens the barking will stop anyway.

Then you start to fade out the free treats for hearing this dog somewhat, so its the loudest/weirdest/most aggressive sounds that get treats, and the say 5% quiet noises, they get either nothing or you asking your dog to sit/watch me/lie down to earn the treat.

Gradually you shift that ratio of free treats to earned treats/no treats over, going from easiest, least up setting to loudest. I would probably seek to maintain rewarding very loud volleys of barking, rattling bins, thunder, most of the time, for life, with all dogs, so we keep that association.

For now this does mean that if he's out there, you're out there and you have a full treat pouch on you. If you need extra security to end the situation swiftly, use a long line clipped to your dogs harness so you can bring him in if he is too far into barky territory to perceive the rewards as rewards.

No shouting, no cues to do anything, absolute consistency.

YOu should find that after a week or two, his responses to next doors dog are massively improved and after a month or so you can drop the extreme levels of consistency.

@tinyspiny the little psychos are close to breaking through 😡 She has locked the dog flap now so better than it was

i personally would ignore them, leave your doors open for your dog etc etc.

We have always had Rottweilers (one at a time), and yes they are powerful, strong etc and about fifteen years ago we had a woman with four little yappie, vicious little handbag dogs, and she was too busy playing the victim card to anyone that listened. Within three months, she had three complaints registered against her, yes her, because her vicious little darlings had bitten people.

i left my back door open constantly so my fourteen year old Rottweiler could plod in and out, sit on the patio furniture, have a swim in his paddling pool, but one thing you will find often about big well trained dogs is they don’t bark much unless it’s intruders. If anyone comes to our door, we all sing “there’s someone at the door, there’s someone at the door,” and there is no woofing, just a waggy tail, cos they know we are pleased, they are pleased!

Dont get involved in notes, just carry on with your life, and your dog will pick up that your not anxious, your dog won’t be anxious.

@Lazydomestic don’t bother replacing it as they will just trash the new one . Our neighbours dog has chewed great chunks out of our fence originally to get at our dog but now the dog has died it still goes berserk at the fence if a human goes outside . We have just reinforced our side with various plants in huge pots . About 3 yrs ago NDN asked my husband if we had plans to do the fence and we told him we had no intention of doing so whilst they still have the dog .

This!

I was just thinking this! It would o drive me mad

Had / have same problem
luckily neighbour has been more reasonable & put planters against the fence to create a barrier. Luckily mine ignores them but it doesn’t stop them completely losing their shit. Unfortunately their dogs have trashed my fence & it’s on the spring replace list …..
But yes - it is a conversation rather than notes you have just as much right to enjoy your garden as they do

Pop a note back saying "I will if you will"?

I feel the same about kids and people that have too many cars 🤷‍♀️

OP is asking for advice on a specific problem, not general views about dogs. Start your own thread.

They need to meet each other and be able to interact so they aren’t the unknown or a threat to each other.

Leaving your door open is awful- I know you’ve enjoyed it, but it doesn’t work when they fence run. Next door do, which means as soon as mine goes out they pop up. He only gets to use the garden when they are away. Inevitably they will occasionally be out at the same time, but don’t let one dominate both gardens.

I agree - currently listening to the irritants around me set each other off. The noise really puts me on edge. The problem is these days so many people have dogs and nobody stops to think about whether their living situation is such that it isn’t antisocial and you end up with situations like these. BOTH dogs sound like a pita and BOTH neighbours should be making efforts to reduce the impact on the rest of the street rather than arguing about who should bring their dog in first or how the dogs should be supervised.

I don’t think you can ignore it, they obviously think they’re in the right (doesn’t sound like they are, and strange to address it via a note rather than a knock on the door). If I was you I’d knock and be super polite but not submissive. Happy to supervise but will expect the same from you. I have nice but hellish neighbours, and talking to them is mildly useful. Every house in the vicinity has a dog where I am so we all accept that barking dogs do set the others off, but there are limits.

Barking dogs are a nuisance I feel more sorry for the other folk in the street having to listen to barking dogs. But one dog barking does tend to set another dog off. But do what you like in your own garden.

Just go knock the door and say that it cuts both ways and they equally need to supervise their dog .

Sorry. I misunderstood that completely! I had a barker. To start with I couldn’t have her in the garden off lead. We did eventually get to the stage where she could go out alone. But not for very long at a time.

You don’t train a dog by ignoring it!
Your dog is barking. Don’t let it out unsupervised. Your neighbours should do the same but you can’t control what they do.

You either need to drop a note back or speak to them.

Explain you are happy to supervise your dog and ask they do the same so not to upset the other neighbours.

Don't ignore otherwise by the summer it will be unbearable and you won't be able to enjoy your garden.

I feel more sorry for the rest of the neighbours, hearing two yappy dogs barking at each other.