To think that everyone is getting far too excited about this Green win?

Be careful what you wish for

You mean a party that gives them a better chance of power?

All the recent Tory defectors have changed their views, some rather dramatically.

There is nothing decent about that.

Just read what is in the public domain about Robert Jenrick should be enough. Politics would be better if he retired as an MP and did something else. He is not nicknamed 'Honest Bob' because of his integrity and previous actions.

As for the woman who was named Sue Ellen by her parents, someone who fails basic IT security with government documents is not someone I ever want in government again.

Annoying..isn't it!

Too soon? but less time given to Labour.... ok

She is wrecking the Tory party, perhaps even more so than Boris Johnson did.

Tories lost 20 out of 21 By-elections between 2010 to 2015, yet still won in 2015.

The 'right/con supporters dismissing the the Tory vote and their even worse popularity than Labour in the 'polls is being rather naive.

Because the fact remains, time is on Labours side, they have another 3.5 years IN power, the Tories remain in opposition, as they will stay after 2029

Yay! 😂

I’m not a Labour supporter. HTH.

What lack of decency and integrity do you have an issue with re Jenrick and Braverman? Just the fact they jumped ship to a party that reflected their views better?

Are you sure (as a Labour supporter) you are in a position to comment about decency and integrity in another political party?

I’m concerned that the Greens could in some areas allow Reform to win by splitting the left wing vote

The GE is a few years away people will start to understand their polices better and the excitement of Zack Polanski will have worn off doubt they will win more than 10 seats

They were plenty bad enough for a lot of us to decide we don’t want a government consisting of the worst of its members. None of the defectors would have even been selected to stand for election in Thatcher or Major’s government where a modicum of decency and integrity was required.

The problem is the last few Conservative governments weren't really Conservative, more Lib Dem light (due to the effects of the Coalition probably, which is a lesson for Reform). So we can't really judge what a real "Conservative" government would be from recent conservative governments. If you see what I mean.

No that's called tactical voting.

It might just be me being an idiot, but what do people see when they say reform is our only hope? When I look at Farage and reform politicians, most of them are old tory party members, and MPs, how are they going to make the UK better?, and look at the policies that have been touted, it's just reheated toryism...i don't get it???

Better than the current run of mugs on offer.

Totally disagree. Labour have arrogantly abandoned any real functional socialism in a country that includes millions of socialists, and still expect their votes. The Greens are giving them somewhere to place their X. The last time Labour pivoted to a decently socialist manifesto (2017), it led to the biggest swing to Labour since WW2. Starmer's controllers haven't allowed that. Unless Labour pivot back to the left I think the Greens will mop up. Decent people will also be especially motivated to prevent the Reform scum getting in.

Totally disagree. Labour have arrogantly abandoned any real functional socialism in a country that includes millions of socialists, and still expect their votes. The Greens are giving them somewhere to place their X. The last time Labour pivoted to a decently socialist manifesto (2017), it led to the biggest swing to Labour since WW2. Starmer's controllers haven't allowed that. Unless Labour pivot back to the left I think the Greens will mop up. Decent people will also be especially motivated to prevent the Reform scum getting in.

Yes, that’s true, but - for so many reasons - it’s better to be well-informed than not. If you’re extremely busy, it’s worth asking Google to give you a summary of that day’s headlines and news analysis, or perhaps buying a magazine like The Week, which summarises the news from the major global media each week.

Right... and the Greens are not dangerous?

I’ll slit my throat now.

They really aren’t

I hope so. Reform is our only hope.

The Greens agenda is far far more dangerous.

This....is why the uproar about sectarianism, the right have realised that there is a considerable vote out there to keep them out of power...

Well, we didnt vote against reform. They double their votes from last time and people on the left say dangerous about reform

tell me, what is dangerous about wanting comtrolled immigration? Protecting women and children? Stopping people who dump their ID into the sea being accepted like a legal citizen? Wanting a low tax, low welfare, low state country. Is anything that I have said there dangerous? I think not, that is all they want but the leftist always think this is wrong.

there are zero rich socialist countries. You cannot tax your way to growth or import millions of people and expect services to get better.

over to you