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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

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faerylights · 27/02/2026 21:32

Glitchymn1 · 27/02/2026 21:30

I agree. It disgusted me when I ate meat. I’m vegan now.
People would be horrified if it was a puppy or a kitten.

Being disgusted by certain animals being killed but not others is nothing but cultural. If you were born and raised in, I don’t know, North Korea, you wouldn’t think twice about eating dog.

Just like lots of countries kill and eat rabbits, or horses, or guinea pigs 🤷‍♀️

faerylights · 27/02/2026 21:31

fepsfrost81 · 27/02/2026 21:08

Sounds like a horror movie plot. Poor sage ☹️

Edited

You have a very weird idea of what constitutes a horror movie if you think a domestic pig being ethically and organically raised, slaughtered and eaten even comes close.

For me as a kid, it was fascinating. We got to pet her, feed her and get to “know” her. We all knew she was going to be slaughtered - it wasn’t kept from us or hidden. We learnt all sorts of interesting things and then when she was sent to slaughter, we got to eat the meat we’d helped to raise and care for ourselves.

Sage was much, much more ethically reared and killed than most other meat is today.

Glitchymn1 · 27/02/2026 21:30

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

I agree. It disgusted me when I ate meat. I’m vegan now.
People would be horrified if it was a puppy or a kitten.

SpaceRaccoon · 27/02/2026 21:28

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

It'd not slaughtered a birth. It's at around 2 months.

A lot of cultures eat the head. It's called skop in South Africa. Bbqd sheep head.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:25

Catlover77 · 27/02/2026 21:13

The animal absolutely did not give anything. Its life was taken away

Agree
some people do like to tie it up in bows to make them feel better

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:23

ScrambledEggs12 · 27/02/2026 21:11

I love animals, especially sheep. If we didn't eat sheep then we wouldn't get to see the sheep in the fields.....

So you’re eating sheep because YOU want to see them in the fields ?!
wow
all that pain and suffering for a view

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/02/2026 21:22

Veganpower · 27/02/2026 19:41

Eating animals is depraved. I know it is socially acceptable but lots of cruel unnecessary things were once accepted.

We are not apex predators so I have never understood the use of 'carnivore' for those who bravely visit the local supermarket to purchase chopped up body parts of a poor animal chilled and packed in a fridge, when the term necrovore is more accurate.

There are also compelling environmental reasons for a plant based diet.

Humans can be argued reasonably to be apex predators. Intelligence, communication, language, training other species for mutual benefit, the development of tools (whether from watching birds use them to get grubs, other apes or because they thought of it themselves), stamina, dexterity - all qualities that mean humans as a group have little in the way of predators in their environment - and have the ability to shape that environment and harvest species that also feature in high trophic levels.

A single human might not stand much of a chance against a pride of lions or in a pool with a psychologically damaged Orca, but as a species with all of their abilities, they are absolutely at the top.

horseplay12 · 27/02/2026 21:21

It wouldn’t bother me at all - I know where my food comes from, and certainly would prefer to eat from a whole pig than some obscure reconstituted rubbish!

LamonicBibber1 · 27/02/2026 21:17

Haven't rtft, but a whole suckling pig is extremely normal in Asia. And delicious! You cannot eat any form of meat and then get your knickers in a twist about this. Also, is the restaurant not Asian themed, so it totally works? (Going by the name of Lucky Cat here, I don't actually know anything about it).

So... Yeah. Learn about other cultures before saying such nonsense. I would 100% order this.

mondaytosunday · 27/02/2026 21:15

Uh no, have you never been to a hog roast or near a butchers? It’s not offensive. Would you be offended if you saw someone pluck a chicken? Fry a whole fish?

imakomododragon · 27/02/2026 21:14

I’m with you on this,OP.

WearyAuldWumman · 27/02/2026 21:14

Ilovecrispytofu · 27/02/2026 19:25

No but there is something pretty repellant about breeding animals only to kill them while still new born. Not to mention distressing for the mother pig. By breeding animals I think we are responsible for giving them some kind of quality of life and this includes a decent longevity.

I can only speak for my family's village in Eastern Europe, but I think that the logic is that the sow has had x number of piglets and - from a food production point of view - it makes sense for her to be feeding and therefore fattening up x-1.

Once they get to a certain stage, some of the piglets are often sold on to be fattened up even further. It's quite common for a family to buy a couple of piglets, fatten them up for several months and then have them slaughtered for Christmas with some of the meat being eaten fresh, some of it salted and some of it turned into sausages.

JustSawJohnny · 27/02/2026 21:13

fepsfrost81 · 27/02/2026 21:08

Sounds like a horror movie plot. Poor sage ☹️

Edited

You say that but surely it's better for kids to understand where their food comes from and for them to develop some kind of acknowledgement of the processes of getting meat and respect for the animals we eat?

It's way too easy to buy a vacuum-packed slab of flesh without any thought of the life that has been sacrificed for your dinner.

That is way more horrifying to me.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:13

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 20:27

But we celebrate a humans life at death with funerals.

Yes we don’t eat the humans but it’s to celebrate life. We celebrate what the human did. We celebrate what the animal gives us.

there is absolutely no connection there !
This is a celebration of the intent to eat the animal
A celebration of how it’s cooked

Anyone ordering this and Ramsays display has Nothing to do with celebrating its life fgs

Catlover77 · 27/02/2026 21:13

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 20:45

It gave us food from its body. So we thank and celebrate the animal.

People who eat meat and actually respect the animal for its meat feel that the animal gave something.

Though that’s more commonly seen in hunter / farmer families and those that live near them rather than those who just pop to Tesco in the middle of a city enjoying their avocado on toast.

It’s no more entertainment than a funeral is.

The animal absolutely did not give anything. Its life was taken away

ScrambledEggs12 · 27/02/2026 21:11

LolaLeee · 27/02/2026 17:22

This is why I am mainly eating a plant based diet. I love animals too much.

I love animals, especially sheep. If we didn't eat sheep then we wouldn't get to see the sheep in the fields.....

JustSawJohnny · 27/02/2026 21:10

If anyone is so sensitive a meat eater that they 'balk' at the reminder that their dinner used to be alive, they shouldn't be eating meat at all, IMO

As an ex vegetarian and vegan, I think it's best not to hide the origins of meats.

All of the sanitised packaging makes it too easy to avoid thinking about what we're eating.

fepsfrost81 · 27/02/2026 21:08

faerylights · 27/02/2026 20:32

lol, okay? You can doubt it all you want, I guess.

It was a small, rural private school in the nineties. We had chickens, rabbits and various other school animals, and a black pig named Sage. Years 5/6 were allowed to feed the pig (it was considered a huge honour) and when she reached about 18 months of age she was taken off to be slaughtered, and served on bonfire night, alongside lots of other local foods.

Sounds like a horror movie plot. Poor sage ☹️

Firefly1987 · 27/02/2026 21:03

I wouldn't want to see it as a vegetarian but I can get behind people knowing where their meat comes from. I'll bet most kids think meat is just grown somewhere or appears magically in the supermarket. If kids are learning that the meat their parents are feeding them is exactly the same as the farmyard animals they just petted earlier then it's a good bit of education.

MonsteraDeliciosa · 27/02/2026 20:54

ppppink · 27/02/2026 20:36

Missing the point when I’m not suggesting a carcass can suffer. I’m talking about the attitude behind turning a dead body into entertainment. Something can be dead and still be treated in a way that feels disrespectful or gratuitous. We generally believe bodies deserve a basic level of dignity even after death. You rarely see a beloved poodle positioned as a table centrepiece with flowers in its eyes. It’s about what we consider acceptable to display. The performative element is callous, and frankly a bit tacky.

We generally believe bodies deserve a basic level of dignity even after death

Only the human dead! But come on, dignity and respect doesn't generally extend to an animal carcass! A beloved pet, maybe, but not livestock killed for eating.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 27/02/2026 20:47

Oh and animals don’t ‘give’ themselves for people to eat like some twee little fantasy people have - they are brutally killed against their will. And terrified whilst it happens until being stunned. And often abused in the process by mentally disturbed slaughterhouse workers. It is not a nice death.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 27/02/2026 20:46

I’d be offended, it’s a baby on a plate, it’s obscene to me. The name ‘suckling’, i.e. breastfeeding just makes it all the more disgusting. But then I’m a lifelong vegetarian and vegan 15 years + person who thinks all meat is morally wrong. And eating babies of any sentient species is just sick. I agree OP.

I’ll never understand the cognitive dissonance of meat eaters. They feel like a different species to me.

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 20:45

Catlover77 · 27/02/2026 20:42

The animal didn’t give us anything. We took the animal’s life from them. The difference at a funeral is that the human‘s body hasn’t been put up as entertainment for people to gawp at.

It gave us food from its body. So we thank and celebrate the animal.

People who eat meat and actually respect the animal for its meat feel that the animal gave something.

Though that’s more commonly seen in hunter / farmer families and those that live near them rather than those who just pop to Tesco in the middle of a city enjoying their avocado on toast.

It’s no more entertainment than a funeral is.

Liminal1975 · 27/02/2026 20:43

I taught my children how to slaughter, pluck, clean and cook our poultry at primary/ just before primary age.

We live on a farm and eat meat in our family and I specifically wanted to show the life cycle to avoid them failing to associate real animals with meat.

If my child wanted to be vegetarian they would have my support without question. As it happens, none of them do.

Catlover77 · 27/02/2026 20:42

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 20:27

But we celebrate a humans life at death with funerals.

Yes we don’t eat the humans but it’s to celebrate life. We celebrate what the human did. We celebrate what the animal gives us.

The animal didn’t give us anything. We took the animal’s life from them. The difference at a funeral is that the human‘s body hasn’t been put up as entertainment for people to gawp at.

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