Page 17 | 'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

nomoreforks · 27/02/2026 18:19

@faerylights if you"re eating a baby pig how has it had a 'great life before a humane, controlled death'?

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/02/2026 18:19

Notasbigasithink · 27/02/2026 18:18

Seeing a whole dead animal served up is normal...... nobody seems to care when a fish, lobster or crab is presented on a plate

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Or indeed a live oyster.

Notasbigasithink · 27/02/2026 18:18

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

Seeing a whole dead animal served up is normal...... nobody seems to care when a fish, lobster or crab is presented on a plate

LVhandbagsatdawn · 27/02/2026 18:18

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

Point of order: suckling pigs are not slaughtered at birth. Apart from anything else, they'd be far too small.

The suckling part of the name means they've been reared exclusively on milk. Not that they're newborn.

Suckling pigs are usually slaughtered at around one month old.

Your standard pack of bacon or pork chops will have been slaughtered between 4-6 months old. Possibly earlier depending on the breed and intended outcome.

I'm not really sure there is a great deal of moral difference in those 3 months.

WearyAuldWumman · 27/02/2026 18:17

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:37

If you ordered veal, would you want the cow's head on the table while you ate?

Yes, people know where meat comes from, but many of them don't like to dwell on it too much. No meat eater I know would be particularly delighted with the head of a lamb, pig or cow on the table while they ate. Let's be honest.

The difference with the suckling pig is that you eat all of it apart from the bones.

Calliopespa · 27/02/2026 18:17

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

Well maybe he wants to encourage his customers out of hypocrisy.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:17

nomoreforks · 27/02/2026 18:15

Pigs are really clever and the idea of eating a baby pig is awful. The way we treat animals is horrendous.

Giving them a great life before a humane, controlled death doesn't sound particularly horrendous to me.

Wynter25 · 27/02/2026 18:16

Wouldnt bother me.

DJKATIE · 27/02/2026 18:16

Easy this one. Don't go

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:16

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:59

Yes it is more honest. Nevertheless, no meat eater I know would order that.

There will be vegetarians in the restaurant on any given night and the sight of something like that being wheeled through will be distressing for many of his customers.

I’m so sorry OP my post upthread posted four times
I have no idea why 🤣

nomoreforks · 27/02/2026 18:15

Pigs are really clever and the idea of eating a baby pig is awful. The way we treat animals is horrendous.

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:15

Kept and killed chickens for food. Don’t have the required land documentation to keep anything else but if I could I would.

Means I’d know exactly how my meat was raised.

Calliopespa · 27/02/2026 18:15

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:17

Are these baby pigs slaughtered the minute they are born? How is this considered appetising in any shape or form? What is wrong with people?

On the contrary, I think it ties in with conscientiousness about "nose to tail" eating and the general idea that if an animal is slaughtered, it should be used properly and not wasted.

I think getting to grips with what the whole dead animal looks like and not ignoring the bits we don't fancy (basically everything but the prime cuts) is probably a healthy thing that reflects biological reality.

Yarboosucks · 27/02/2026 18:14

I had no idea that this could be on the menu! Thanks for the tip OP. Do you know what the sides will be? Baby vegetables I hope.....

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 27/02/2026 18:13

I went out to eat at my favourite restaurant yesterday. I was served a whole fish, complete with head and tail. It looked and tasted delicious. Is that offensive too?

I'm no fan of GR but would love to try suckling pig. I can see a trip to Bishopsgate in my future.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/02/2026 18:12

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:02

Lots of negative comments from meat eaters online over This aswell

Oh well
He’ll alienate people
So much for his I love vegan food
just not vegans then Gorders

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The vast majority of the UK population is omnivorous. We can enjoy things that don't contain meat or fish or dairy as well as things that do.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:11

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:07

Or indeed to watch and partake in the full slaughtering process
Although I’m guessing MNetters will come back and say I’m fine with that 🤣. So I’ll pre empt. You might be but most people aren’t

Meanwhile I’m fine with digging up my own carrots.

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Why do you assume we wouldn't be fine with it, though?

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 18:10

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:07

Or indeed to watch and partake in the full slaughtering process
Although I’m guessing MNetters will come back and say I’m fine with that 🤣. So I’ll pre empt. You might be but most people aren’t

Meanwhile I’m fine with digging up my own carrots.

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I am central european with links to rural, so I will be first of the MNetters to say, partaking in slaugher snd processing whole animal is actually not that hard generally. It's quick kill when done on tiny scale.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/02/2026 18:09

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

I do wonder what would have happened to many species that humans have domesticated for food purposes if we hadn't intervened. Extinction or a short brutal life ending in death from disease or starvation or injuries inflicted in an attack from a predator? I don't see that a short life looked after by humans, fed, given expert veterinary treatment and then humanely killed is the worst option. The UK has some of the highest animal welfare standards in the world. Our landscape would look very different if we didn't have animals grazing on our uplands. We would also be very short of fertiliser for all the vegetables and grains needed for a diet that doesn't include meat.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:07

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:37

If you ordered veal, would you want the cow's head on the table while you ate?

Yes, people know where meat comes from, but many of them don't like to dwell on it too much. No meat eater I know would be particularly delighted with the head of a lamb, pig or cow on the table while they ate. Let's be honest.

Or indeed to watch and partake in the full slaughtering process
Although I’m guessing MNetters will come back and say I’m fine with that 🤣. So I’ll pre empt. You might be but most people aren’t

Meanwhile I’m fine with digging up my own carrots.

FreshInks · 27/02/2026 18:07

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

Do you consume dairy products?

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:06

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

How do you feel about restaurants in Europe where you can pick your own lobster? Or supermarkets for that matter?

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/02/2026 18:06

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

They're alive, not half dead.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:05

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:05

I know loads of people who eat fish or seafood but they avoid restaurants where the fish or lobsters are half dead in tanks in the window. Yes, it's hypocritical, but this is how many people are.

You do realise the pig isn’t being slaughtered at tableside?

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 18:05

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/02/2026 18:02

We really are pretty sanitised here. In Singapore you’d hear the cleavers, and see the butchery, alongside the food stalls. Things hanging up…

There was a famed crispy skinned duck hanging everywhere. Not unlike the rotisserie at a supermarket, come to think of it.

To be honest, OP, we eat meat. Small animals and big ones. Better that we don’t hide from the fact.

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Fully agree that UK is pretty sanitised about meat.
If people eat it, they should beable to look at it imho. And it's not just that, it's also bit of a being soft about certain animals being eaten. For example the amount of people horrified at idea of eating a rabbit is... Bit hilarious tbh