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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

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Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:38

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:37

Yep, horse is delicious - so is Zebra, come to that. We used to have an exotic steakhouse near us and my DP at the time and I made it our mission to eat everything they had on the menu Grin

I also don't particularly object to dogs or cats being raised for meat if it's done ethically.

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Yes I love trying new animals. Give any a try once.

My mother is the same although she objects to dolphins that’s her line 😅

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:38

Calliopespa · 27/02/2026 18:24

Many animals bred for food would have had no life at all if there was no market for them as food.

I mean we can debate whether that is better or not from the pig's perspective, but let's not pretend he'd otherwise have been running free in fields of buttercups and tended till old age.

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Think you’ll find non meat eaters don’t have a problem with pigs not existing at all.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:37

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/02/2026 18:36

I agree.

And also I wonder why some omnivores seem to think that eating horse is wrong (delicious) or dogs (not knowingly eaten).

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Yep, horse is delicious - so is Zebra, come to that. We used to have an exotic steakhouse near us and my DP at the time and I made it our mission to eat everything they had on the menu Grin

I also don't particularly object to dogs or cats being raised for meat if it's done ethically.

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:37

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:33

They're both animals. Surely you should care about all of them equally?

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Don't be facetious. Do you, as a warm-blooded sentient being, have the potential to experience pain or fear in the same way as other large mammals? Or are you claiming to be no different to an oyster?

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/02/2026 18:37

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:27

I do think a lot of people who eat pork, probably do so because they like it but don't particularly want to dwell on where it comes from or how it was killed.

Buying bacon in Tesco or wherever is something millions do. But sitting eating pork with the pig's head in the table would not go down well with a lot of meat-eaters. It's just vile in any reckoning. Imagine paying for that.

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And the others who are realistic about what those pieces of protein represent are OK with it. Admittedly, it does somewhat knock the 'stupid omnis can't handle that they're eating death' argument out of the water, which must be quite irritating for those who believed it, but, along with billions of other people who are very aware of what is required in order to have that meal, they are eating meat in a similar situation as the one humans have experienced for millennia.

PorcupineOnline · 27/02/2026 18:36

But a "whole dead animal" is where the food came from. I see no issue with this. People should be connected with their food.

user1473878824 · 27/02/2026 18:36

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:32

No. I think it's tiresome when people default to "well what about a prawn. What about an oyster., or a eh , eh." As if a shrimp and a pig or cow are remotely the same thing.

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So yes then?

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/02/2026 18:36

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:33

They're both animals. Surely you should care about all of them equally?

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I agree.

And also I wonder why some omnivores seem to think that eating horse is wrong (delicious) or dogs (not knowingly eaten).

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:36

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:34

It’s not inclusive if there are vegans, vegetarians or people who don’t eat any animals or certain animals for religious reasons

Ethical veganism is a protected characteristic under the Equalities Act

Some Students can, by necessity, be forced to self exclude from the raising process

Suggestions through Legal and Duty of Care Consideration is for schools to grow fruit and veg so they can include everyone Equally in both the learning process and the celebration of it

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Oh well - go back in time 30 years and complain if it bothers you!

MammaBear1 · 27/02/2026 18:35

I eat meat. I’m aware where it comes from. I wouldn’t be offended as that would make me a hypocrite.

Bruisername · 27/02/2026 18:35

I grew up around markets/reataurants/homes in China and France

I am now a vegetarian.

if you eat it you should see it. Far too sanitised in the UK

ginasevern · 27/02/2026 18:35

@paloma7 Do you drink cows milk or eat cheese OP? If so, that's actually far, far worse in terms of baby animal slaughter. Also, I'm pretty sure that Muslims won't be queuing up to visit this restaurant unless it serves a range of halal meat and has a halal kitchen environment (which is obviously not the case).

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:35

You can tell lots of people don’t live near proper butchers either. Or seeing a whole half dead animal would be pretty normal

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:34

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:03

Not everything needs to be inclusive.

It was an excellent lesson and all us kids ate the hog roast - knowing exactly where it came from and that they'd helped feed and raise the pig themselves.

None of us found it disgusting or upsetting - as I recall, we mostly thought it was amusing as the pig had been called Sage 😂

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It’s not inclusive if there are vegans, vegetarians or people who don’t eat any animals or certain animals for religious reasons

Ethical veganism is a protected characteristic under the Equalities Act

Some Students can, by necessity, be forced to self exclude from the raising process

Suggestions through Legal and Duty of Care Consideration is for schools to grow fruit and veg so they can include everyone Equally in both the learning process and the celebration of it

RandomUsernameHere · 27/02/2026 18:34

I understand your point and would find it unappetising (I very rarely eat any type of pork anyway). On the other hand, the animal still has to die whether it’s cut into indistinguishable pieces or presented whole.

BillieWiper · 27/02/2026 18:33

No it's not obscene to see meat on a table that hasn't had its head cut off. If you eat meat then unfortunately you have to accept a lot of it does usually come with a face.

If you don't eat meat I guess it could seem very unpleasant.

And lucky cat opened ages ago, it's apparently shite.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:33

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:32

No. I think it's tiresome when people default to "well what about a prawn. What about an oyster., or a eh , eh." As if a shrimp and a pig or cow are remotely the same thing.

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They're both animals. Surely you should care about all of them equally?

RichardOnslowRoper · 27/02/2026 18:33

I am also veggie. I do not care if other people eat meat. I do not care if a suckling pig appears on TV. It's so easy not to eat there or watch something else.

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/02/2026 18:32

BIWI · 27/02/2026 18:31

From the menu:

whole roasted suckling pig MP
whole roasted suckling pig, bao buns, pickled vegetables,
selection of sauces. preorder 48 hours in advance.

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I'm not sure about the pickles, I think they'd overwhelm the flavour of the meat.

RosesAndHellebores · 27/02/2026 18:32

Don't have a problem with it. Most pigs are bred for eating. My grannie used to put a pig's head in the copper and make brawn.

Hog roast
Lamb on a spit
Chicken rotisserie
Poussin
Whole salmon
Sardines
Trout

Etc, etc

Tempted to book

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:32

WearyAuldWumman · 27/02/2026 18:28

So you only worry about mammals?

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No. I think it's tiresome when people default to "well what about a prawn. What about an oyster., or a eh , eh." As if a shrimp and a pig or cow are remotely the same thing.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/02/2026 18:31

Pigs are grown for slaughter and for us to eat - what difference does it make at what stage in their lives they are slaughtered?

Exactly, @BIWI

I've no issue at all with something being slaughtered for my dinner; all I care about is that it's had a reasonably decent life and isn't tortured at the end of it - and that's easily achieved by sourcing it properly

BIWI · 27/02/2026 18:31

Yarboosucks · 27/02/2026 18:14

I had no idea that this could be on the menu! Thanks for the tip OP. Do you know what the sides will be? Baby vegetables I hope.....

From the menu:

whole roasted suckling pig MP
whole roasted suckling pig, bao buns, pickled vegetables,
selection of sauces. preorder 48 hours in advance.

SarahAndQuack · 27/02/2026 18:31

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:32

I'm not particularly 'fine' with the meat industry, no, but I can't do much about it. I can only control what I eat myself and make a small difference that way.

I am not going to tell people they can't eat meat in restaurants, that is not the point. My point is, don't make a spectacle of the poor baby pig so that GR can whack his prices up and get on TikTok or whatever. That is what I find obscene.

I don't think it's making a spectacle.

I think it's important for people to remember where meat comes from. Squeamishness to the point where you'd rather waste parts of the animal bothers me, and I think that comes from people having a disconnect with the reality of it all.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:30

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:27

Really? Surely you can spot the creature that is a mammal, just like you.

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Oh, so it's only mammals you claim to care about then?

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