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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

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AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:48

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 18:46

I am sorry but "so it's fine to eat himan babies since it's fine eating baby pigs" is hilarious

Yeah, I think cannibalism is a step too far in most societies!

(although humans HAVE done that to survive in extreme circumstances - can’t judge them for that)

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:48

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 18:46

I am sorry but "so it's fine to eat himan babies since it's fine eating baby pigs" is hilarious

Ohh but apparently I'm "morally inconsistent" because I'm smart enough to realise that humans are not pigs 😂

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/02/2026 18:47

... also I wonder why some omnivores seem to think that eating horse is wrong (delicious) or dogs (not knowingly eaten)

So do I, @oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends, and it really does just seem to be a cultural thing

Not sure why you singled out dogs for "not knowingly eaten" though. If you've had a 10 Euro steack frites or bought mince in France (especially in the south) then trust me, you've eaten horse - though maybe not knowingly after all Grin

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 18:46

I am sorry but "so it's fine to eat himan babies since it's fine eating baby pigs" is hilarious

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:45

ChattyCatty25 · 27/02/2026 18:42

Yes. YANBU. Saying “meat eaters know where meat comes from” is stating the obvious and missing the point.

It is a spectacle of suffering. It’s odd how the worse the ethics of a product are - e.g. real fur, foie gras - the more “luxurious” it is considered. As if it’s considered more authentic and traditional because more suffering has happened.

In Taiwan, they have a dish of a live, cooked fish. Its organs are selectively removed and it’s lightly cooked to keep it alive, gasping on the plate. There’s no culinary benefit but again, the suffering is the spectacle.

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But where is the suffering in a suckling pig, beyond any other animal humanely slaughtered?

I wouldn’t eat that dish you mention, for the same reason I don’t eat lobster cooked in the traditional way or meat that’s been slaughtered unstunned (if I can tell). But suckling pig is basically just pork - there’s no additional suffering there.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:45

ChattyCatty25 · 27/02/2026 18:44

Don’t avoid the question. Address your own moral and logical inconsistency.

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What inconsistency?

Animals aren't humans and I'm not going to try and debate with people who are ridiculous enough to believe they're the same.

BashfulClam · 27/02/2026 18:45

HoppityBun · 27/02/2026 17:42

That’s nothing compared with the hypocrisy of cooing over little baa lambs, ignoring that they’ll be shoved on a lorry to go the abattoir in a few weeks.

Then insisting that Welsh and English lamb tastes better than imported lamb

Actually Scotch lamb is superior.

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:44

I obviously eat in restaurants all the time where meat is served to other customers. My DH will sometimes order meat, as du my parents and all manner of people everywhere. Obviously.

Nevertheless, I would draw the line at sitting in a restaurant if there was a whole suckling pig on a trolley being carved up like some kind of 'wow' moment for the table next to me. I think I would probably leave.

I will not be going there anyway - the man is a tosser.

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manateeplushie · 27/02/2026 18:44

I’m a lifelong veggie and abhor the suffering of animals, but I would expect a show about a very meat-based, Scottish chef to contain meat? It’s hardly a big shock

user1473878824 · 27/02/2026 18:44

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:37

Don't be facetious. Do you, as a warm-blooded sentient being, have the potential to experience pain or fear in the same way as other large mammals? Or are you claiming to be no different to an oyster?

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I think you’ve got more in common with a shrimp at this point OP.

You know that no one is going to magically stop eating or serving meat so realistically you should be pleased that Lucky Cat is encouraging nose to tail eating and not contributing to the waste of slaughtered animals because people get picky and upset.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:44

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:43

Can eat anything once. Might not survive but 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

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😂

I'd try dolphin. I've had shark meat before - it didn't taste of much though!

ChattyCatty25 · 27/02/2026 18:44

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:42

Except humans eating human meat is dangerous and can kill us.

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Don’t avoid the question. Address your own moral and logical inconsistency.

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:43

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:41

I think you can technically eat any meat, can’t you?

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Can eat anything once. Might not survive but 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:43

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:41

I think you can technically eat any meat, can’t you?

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Probably, I'm just curious if anyone does!

I've heard penguin tastes horrible.

LolaLeee · 27/02/2026 18:43

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:39

I'm not being facetious. You're the one saying they're not the same, so I'm asking you why you only object to whole pigs, and not fish, prawns or other whole animals being served in restaurants?

It's interesting that you don't seem to have an answer.

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I think OP has replied on this. I also think it’s a ridiculous question to ask. Comparing an oyster to a pig.

Calliopespa · 27/02/2026 18:43

gollyimholly · 27/02/2026 18:41

Muslim woman here. It wouldn't deter me from eating there because it wouldn't matter to me what the people at the next table were eating. In the same way I have no problem with my friend sat opposite me eating a bacon sandwich. Or when my Chinese friend had whole baby pigs on each table at her wedding...

Edit to add: I wonder if you're actually also a bit squeamish in the same way my DH doesn't like looking at a whole lobster or crab or little prawn heads attached when I have seafood and finds it uncomfortable to look at.

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So actually this (your comment) is an example of genuine inclusivity, whereas the suggested "inclusivity" is to pick and choose whose customs and preferences must be observed.

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:42

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:40

Can you even eat dolphin meat?!

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I’ve never seen it sold, though I’m sure it’s likely on some black markets, but that’s her line.

She would try every other animal on the planet but not dolphin.

ChattyCatty25 · 27/02/2026 18:42

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

Yes. YANBU. Saying “meat eaters know where meat comes from” is stating the obvious and missing the point.

It is a spectacle of suffering. It’s odd how the worse the ethics of a product are - e.g. real fur, foie gras - the more “luxurious” it is considered. As if it’s considered more authentic and traditional because more suffering has happened.

In Taiwan, they have a dish of a live, cooked fish. Its organs are selectively removed and it’s lightly cooked to keep it alive, gasping on the plate. There’s no culinary benefit but again, the suffering is the spectacle.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:42

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:41

That’s not an argument
because
Neither do human babies
So that’s OK then ?

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Except humans eating human meat is dangerous and can kill us.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 18:41

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:20

Pigs have no concept of mortality and their own life spans, they're not people.

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That’s not an argument
because
Neither do human babies
So that’s OK then ?

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 27/02/2026 18:41

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:40

Can you even eat dolphin meat?!

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I think you can technically eat any meat, can’t you?

gollyimholly · 27/02/2026 18:41

Muslim woman here. It wouldn't deter me from eating there because it wouldn't matter to me what the people at the next table were eating. In the same way I have no problem with my friend sat opposite me eating a bacon sandwich. Or when my Chinese friend had whole baby pigs on each table at her wedding...

Edit to add: I wonder if you're actually also a bit squeamish in the same way my DH doesn't like looking at a whole lobster or crab or little prawn heads attached when I have seafood and finds it uncomfortable to look at.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:40

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 18:38

Yes I love trying new animals. Give any a try once.

My mother is the same although she objects to dolphins that’s her line 😅

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Can you even eat dolphin meat?!

CornishPorsche · 27/02/2026 18:40

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:32

No. I think it's tiresome when people default to "well what about a prawn. What about an oyster., or a eh , eh." As if a shrimp and a pig or cow are remotely the same thing.

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They also brought a whole (dead) tuna into the restaurant to be chopped up for dinner and to create a spectacle.

Is this not acceptable either?

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:39

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 18:37

Don't be facetious. Do you, as a warm-blooded sentient being, have the potential to experience pain or fear in the same way as other large mammals? Or are you claiming to be no different to an oyster?

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I'm not being facetious. You're the one saying they're not the same, so I'm asking you why you only object to whole pigs, and not fish, prawns or other whole animals being served in restaurants?

It's interesting that you don't seem to have an answer.