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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

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CornishPorsche · 27/02/2026 19:30

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 19:10

Of course a human being is not a cow or pig. But nevertheless. we are all mammals, with flesh and warm blood and complex nervous systems and therefore will experience physical pain in a similar way. Animals are also highly attuned to be able to sense and feel fear. How do you know animals don't sense fear before their slaughter. They almost certainly do. Do you really think a mother pig or cow just doesn't notice if her piglet or calf is removed? Ever seen a cow mourning her calf? The way people deny animals sentience to justify using them as commodities is too depressing.

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But you're not bothered about a tuna?

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:27

FlatErica · 27/02/2026 19:19

Yes, I’d be interested to hear how OP rationalises this too.

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She can't, which is why she's ignored every single poster asking her about it.

Shadowdax16 · 27/02/2026 19:27

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 19:20

Well said

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But actually the OPs posts undermine this argument. They are more comfortable with supermarket bacon, which is likely intensively reared without much thought for the animal or its impact. I’m not saying that the suckling pig might not also fall into this category but I think it is possible to be an ethical meat eater in the same way as it’s possible to be an unethical vegan.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:27

Ilovecrispytofu · 27/02/2026 19:25

No but there is something pretty repellant about breeding animals only to kill them while still new born. Not to mention distressing for the mother pig. By breeding animals I think we are responsible for giving them some kind of quality of life and this includes a decent longevity.

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Okay, so what age do you think it stops being repellent?

Six months? 18 months? 2 years? They can't be too old or the meat would be no good for eating, after all.

FreshInks · 27/02/2026 19:26

FlatErica · 27/02/2026 19:19

Yes, I’d be interested to hear how OP rationalises this too.

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She’s a hypocrite.

Growing up by a dairy farm, the wail made by the cows and their calf’s when they are separated is a sound I won’t forget. But the OP seems to have no problem with that.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:26

HokiePokie · 27/02/2026 19:21

I completely agree with you OP. I am vegetarian, trying really hard to go towards a vegan diet.
I accept other people are free to choose what they eat, but the level of cognitive dissonance between eating meat and the reality of the way animals are slaughtered is something that I find astonishing and very depressing.

Hm - surely a meat eater seeing a whole pig on a table and wanting to eat it anyway is pretty much the total opposite of cognitive dissonance?

We know how animals are killed, btw. You're free to find that as astonishing and depressing as you like.

Ilovecrispytofu · 27/02/2026 19:25

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:52

Animals have no concept of life spans or how long they're supposed to live - it's not like they go to slaughter sobbing because they're supposed to live until 6 years instead of 6 months!

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No but there is something pretty repellant about breeding animals only to kill them while still new born. Not to mention distressing for the mother pig. By breeding animals I think we are responsible for giving them some kind of quality of life and this includes a decent longevity.

zephyr148 · 27/02/2026 19:22

You don’t work for GR’s PR team by any chance? I think you’re doing an excellent job encouraging a lot of people here (me included) to try the restaurant! You should ask him for a bonus.

HokiePokie · 27/02/2026 19:21

I completely agree with you OP. I am vegetarian, trying really hard to go towards a vegan diet.
I accept other people are free to choose what they eat, but the level of cognitive dissonance between eating meat and the reality of the way animals are slaughtered is something that I find astonishing and very depressing.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 19:20

ChattyCatty25 · 27/02/2026 19:04

Uncontrollable global warming, ocean collapse, and deforestation will tell you otherwise.

Meat eaters would rather die than save our only habitable planet.

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Well said

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/02/2026 19:20

ChattyCatty25 · 27/02/2026 18:51

If “omnis” are so comfortable with dead animals, why are they so offended by slaughterhouse and factory farm footage?

They rage and scream against completely standard animal agriculture scenes being shown publicly, such as male chicks being crushed live in a macerator.

You will see a potato harvest on TV adverts, but never an abattoir.

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Meh, you'll see babies on an advert, but not the moment they're conceived or born either. Most of us are comfortable with sex, pregnancy and birth but aren't really wanting to see them whilst idly wishing Netflix didn't have two tiers.

FlatErica · 27/02/2026 19:19

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:12

I live in the country and see and experience all this stuff everyday - nothing you're saying is news to me and none of it puts me off eating meat.

If you apparently care so much about animals feelings, why are you still eating cheese and drinking milk?

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Yes, I’d be interested to hear how OP rationalises this too.

Shadowdax16 · 27/02/2026 19:16

I would much rather this than people buying unidentifiable lumps of meat in a supermarket where it’s easy to disassociate from what it is and how it was raised, treated and slaughtered.

anterenea · 27/02/2026 19:15

I understand your point OP, I am not vegetarian and have enjoyed whole roast suckling pigs until i had to prepare one - spear it (or rather her as she was a little female) from mouth to anus, rub it with the butter and herbs sauce- and then I felt like you. Plus I leave in SW France, very near the Spanish border and I have driven past so many lorries full of 6 months old max piglets, and the screams stay with you forever. Also since when if suckling pig deserving of a £100 a head restaurant? It's quite obscene, at least there are some chefs like Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall who pay lip service to the environmental catastrophe we're in the middle of ; but not Gordon, no, always with the baseless exploitation of animals

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:15

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 19:14

Now Londis is a surprise.

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My bad - it wasn't Londis, it was Budgens! Just had a google of it.

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 19:14

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:12

Goat can be a bit chewy I find, has to be cooked properly.

You used to be able to get squirrel meat in Londis of all places, not sure if that's still a thing though!

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Now Londis is a surprise.

Sprinklesandsprinkles · 27/02/2026 19:13

I'm a meat eater and I don't disagree, I'd hate seeing this too. I hate seeing hog roasts too. But people love them and are perfectly happy seeing the pigs head on platters when it's being served out

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/02/2026 19:13

I must watch this programme.
My SIL met G.R. in a professional capacity, & described him as a sweetie in real life & nothing like his TV persona.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:12

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 19:12

Ostrich and kangaroo both in our Morrisons.

Also get ostrich when the continental market rolls in. A place by the coast here used to do crocodile steaks.

Boar is another good one. Got a friend who’s promised me some squirrels this year.

Surprisingly though not too keen on goat or maybe I just didn’t use a good recipe.

Goat can be a bit chewy I find, has to be cooked properly.

You used to be able to get squirrel meat in Londis of all places, not sure if that's still a thing though!

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:12

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 19:10

Of course a human being is not a cow or pig. But nevertheless. we are all mammals, with flesh and warm blood and complex nervous systems and therefore will experience physical pain in a similar way. Animals are also highly attuned to be able to sense and feel fear. How do you know animals don't sense fear before their slaughter. They almost certainly do. Do you really think a mother pig or cow just doesn't notice if her piglet or calf is removed? Ever seen a cow mourning her calf? The way people deny animals sentience to justify using them as commodities is too depressing.

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I live in the country and see and experience all this stuff everyday - nothing you're saying is news to me and none of it puts me off eating meat.

If you apparently care so much about animals feelings, why are you still eating cheese and drinking milk?

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 19:12

Ostrich and kangaroo both in our Morrisons.

Also get ostrich when the continental market rolls in. A place by the coast here used to do crocodile steaks.

Boar is another good one. Got a friend who’s promised me some squirrels this year.

Surprisingly though not too keen on goat or maybe I just didn’t use a good recipe.

Catsandcheese · 27/02/2026 19:12

So if you’re bothered by a pig why not by a prawn or a lobster? I hate seeing lobsters in tanks waiting to be picked. At least the pig’s dead already.

Pedallleur · 27/02/2026 19:11

Restaurants in the Far East where you pick your fish whilst it's swimming and the staff net it and cook it. That's the deal with eating meat/fish. The pig will be dead anyway. And the good news is going to the restaurant is an option.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 19:11

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:45

What inconsistency?

Animals aren't humans and I'm not going to try and debate with people who are ridiculous enough to believe they're the same.

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Which is irrelevant
this concept of appreciation of one’s mortality as justification here is absurd

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 19:10

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:57

Except human babies grow to become aware of it, pigs don't and never will.

Stop trying to compare human beings to pigs - it makes you look very silly.

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Of course a human being is not a cow or pig. But nevertheless. we are all mammals, with flesh and warm blood and complex nervous systems and therefore will experience physical pain in a similar way. Animals are also highly attuned to be able to sense and feel fear. How do you know animals don't sense fear before their slaughter. They almost certainly do. Do you really think a mother pig or cow just doesn't notice if her piglet or calf is removed? Ever seen a cow mourning her calf? The way people deny animals sentience to justify using them as commodities is too depressing.

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