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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

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HokiePokie · 27/02/2026 19:56

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:45

Yep. I've seen plenty of videos of abbatoirs and slaughterhouses. I also live rurally where it's very normal to see the trucks coming to collect the animals for slaughter. Many people here also kill and eat their own meat.

None of it bothers me.

It doesn't bother a lot of people. I am aware of that. Just find that very sad.
I live rurally too btw.

Veganpower · 27/02/2026 19:55

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:44

What about the impact of many vegan foods on the environment? Soy beans, for example? Or foods like avocado which are flown thousands of miles everyday for us to eat?

Good question. Of course crops grown for vegan products, such as soy, will naturally have an impact on the environment. However soy is a common animal feed for cows. Feeding it to cows requires significantly more land, water, and energy to produce the same amount of protein, as most calories are lost during the animal's metabolism.

It is significantly more efficient to eat soy directly. Livestock act as a "middleman" that loses most of the energy from the plant; it takes roughly 25 kg of grain to produce just 1 kg of beef. By consuming soy ourselves, we bypass the metabolic heat and waste produced by animals, allowing the same land to feed many more people.

As for avocados, I agree that flying in exotic fruits has an environmental impact. One can use discretion and eschew purchasing air mile heavy fruit and veg at the same time as eating compassionately.

Trotula · 27/02/2026 19:54

Very normal in a restaurant near Lousa in Portugal that we went to with people being bused in from local villages. Local delicacy.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:54

ppppink · 27/02/2026 19:51

Absolutely agree. It’s abhorrent.

Why?

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:53

The thread is about the grotesque (in my view) spectacle of a baby pig, its eyes stuffed with flowers, in a restaurant because to many people - including meat eaters - this is totally unnecessary and repugnant.

Except many of us don't find it repugnant or grotesque in the slightest. Unnecessary, sure, but lots of things in life are unnecessary.

BashfulClam · 27/02/2026 19:52

Don’t got to Edinburgh OP there are a few shops called Oink that have roasted whole hogs in the windows.

ppppink · 27/02/2026 19:51

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

Absolutely agree. It’s abhorrent.

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 19:51

Nobody is forcing you to eat it op.

Nobody is forcing you to go to a restaurant that serves it.

Don’t like it don’t go. It’s just food at the end of the day. A dead pig served up as food. It’s that simple.

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 19:48

Some ridiculous posts on here.

How am I 'comfortable with supermarket bacon?' Ffs.

Where exactly did I say I was 'fine' with certain practices in the dairy industry?

People always have to resort to predictable whataboutery on this kind of issue. It's so tedious.

We all draw our lines somewhere. Some people will eat cows but not horses. Some people will eat chicken, but not red meat. Some people are pescatarian. Some are vegetarian. Some are vegan.

By the way, I totally agree that meat eaters should have to confront the 'whole animal' far more, as opposed to parts packaged in plastic boxes. If people did have to deal with whole animals, many more would be inclined to not eat meat, or less of it.

But that is not what the thread is about. The thread is about the grotesque (in my view) spectacle of a baby pig, its eyes stuffed with flowers, in a restaurant because to many people - including meat eaters - this is totally unnecessary and repugnant.

Cue more whataboutery tales of "well I once ate a dodo" or whatever. Yawn. Or "what about lobsters?" Well what about them? Do I think they need to be boiled alive in front of people. Not particularly. But it happens. Nevertheless, a lobster is not a pig, just as a pig is not a human. Just because I am talking about a pig here, does not mean I need to be called to account for all manner of farming practices and animal cruelty across the world since time began. Multiple things can be true at once.

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Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 19:47

DeepBlueDeer · 27/02/2026 19:43

At least its not as bad as the David Cameron one.

Now where is that laughing react 🤣🤣

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:45

HokiePokie · 27/02/2026 19:43

But the pig is already dead when you see it, not slaughtered in front of you.

We all know how animals are slaughtered, but do most people really think deeply about what actually happens within an abbatoir.
A friend of mine worked in the offices of an abbatoir when she was younger and had to leave because of what she saw. The pigs were so distressed when being unloaded from the trucks, not to mention being kicked and treated appallingly before they even got inside. Some had heart attacks and died as they were so distressed. She never saw the actual slaughter, but what she did see was enough to stop her eating meat.

Yep. I've seen plenty of videos of abbatoirs and slaughterhouses. I also live rurally where it's very normal to see the trucks coming to collect the animals for slaughter. Many people here also kill and eat their own meat.

None of it bothers me.

sausagepastapot · 27/02/2026 19:45

Looked yummy, I'd order it. Delish

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:44

Veganpower · 27/02/2026 19:41

Eating animals is depraved. I know it is socially acceptable but lots of cruel unnecessary things were once accepted.

We are not apex predators so I have never understood the use of 'carnivore' for those who bravely visit the local supermarket to purchase chopped up body parts of a poor animal chilled and packed in a fridge, when the term necrovore is more accurate.

There are also compelling environmental reasons for a plant based diet.

What about the impact of many vegan foods on the environment? Soy beans, for example? Or foods like avocado which are flown thousands of miles everyday for us to eat?

DeepBlueDeer · 27/02/2026 19:43

At least its not as bad as the David Cameron one.

HokiePokie · 27/02/2026 19:43

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:26

Hm - surely a meat eater seeing a whole pig on a table and wanting to eat it anyway is pretty much the total opposite of cognitive dissonance?

We know how animals are killed, btw. You're free to find that as astonishing and depressing as you like.

But the pig is already dead when you see it, not slaughtered in front of you.

We all know how animals are slaughtered, but do most people really think deeply about what actually happens within an abbatoir.
A friend of mine worked in the offices of an abbatoir when she was younger and had to leave because of what she saw. The pigs were so distressed when being unloaded from the trucks, not to mention being kicked and treated appallingly before they even got inside. Some had heart attacks and died as they were so distressed. She never saw the actual slaughter, but what she did see was enough to stop her eating meat.

AwayADay · 27/02/2026 19:42

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

I am also a vegetarian and yes it must have to horrible to see but realistically in a food programme you are likely to see meat.
On watching the news tonight , it was all about over fishing of Mackerel and shows hundreds of thousands dead fish , it was horrible to see but I would come on here to make a post of it , no .
There are good things and bad things on t.v. , don't watch it if it upsets you .

Veganpower · 27/02/2026 19:41

Eating animals is depraved. I know it is socially acceptable but lots of cruel unnecessary things were once accepted.

We are not apex predators so I have never understood the use of 'carnivore' for those who bravely visit the local supermarket to purchase chopped up body parts of a poor animal chilled and packed in a fridge, when the term necrovore is more accurate.

There are also compelling environmental reasons for a plant based diet.

maddiemookins16mum · 27/02/2026 19:39

YABU

RawBloomers · 27/02/2026 19:36

FairKoala · 27/02/2026 18:27

You make it sounds so nice.

What if we had people who are given a great life and then before they get too old they are killed humanely and served to meat eating animals.

That did used to happen (except the killed humanely part). Still does occasionally. Many animals, including humans, eat meat and they kill to get it. We don't get killed by other animals much nowadays because we've developed ways to defend ourselves (like urbanization, but also killing off predators). There's generally nothing immoral about a meat eating animal killing another animal to eat. It's the cycle of life that we have evolved to be a part of.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 19:35

faerylights · 27/02/2026 18:54

Yes, and it was 30 years ago...that's my point 😂

No parents complained, there was no massive uproar - us kids learnt where our food came from, helped feed and raise the pig (it was considered a big honour to take Sage her veggies) and then we ate her once she had been slaughtered.

And she was delicious with some apple sauce in a bun Grin

Well I’m glad to hear that happened back in the dark ages then

so glad we are more understanding of everyone these days

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 19:33

Ilovecrispytofu · 27/02/2026 19:25

No but there is something pretty repellant about breeding animals only to kill them while still new born. Not to mention distressing for the mother pig. By breeding animals I think we are responsible for giving them some kind of quality of life and this includes a decent longevity.

Meat eaters need to address all the horrors of the Industry

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:33

vegans and non meat eaters would rather they were all extinct. For that matter if they could speak so would they

How the hell do you know that? 😂 Do you speak pig?

I don't have or want children FWIW. Can't understand why anyone would want to be a parent.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 19:31

faerylights · 27/02/2026 19:09

Why not, if they're lab bred and raised specifically for that purpose?

Pigs raised for slaughter only exist because we decided to keep them here as a species - they wouldn't be frolicking around a field living a happy life otherwise, they'd never exist to begin with.

The only people who care that they exist is the ones that want to eat them

As a previous post if you RTT
vegans and non meat eaters would rather they were all extinct. For that matter if they could speak so would they

Would you want to bread your own babies for people to prance them through a restaurant after being slaughtered.

Franpie · 27/02/2026 19:30

Lucky Cat is GR’s Asian brand.

Whole suckling pigs are common in Chinese restaurants and are seen roasting or hanging on spits in nearly every restaurant window in Soho.