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This country is doomed

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 08:29

While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

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Sa11yCinnamon · 27/02/2026 09:23

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BunfightBetty · 27/02/2026 09:23

nomas · 27/02/2026 09:12

Seriously, this Islamophobia needs to stop.

This race baiting of Muslims as robots who only think of Gaza is idiotic and damaging.

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Serious question - why is Gaza featuring so heavily in some campaigns, over and above issues that affect this country?

Why did Mothin Ali say his win was 'a victory for the people of Gaza' when he won his seat? HIs first speech -the very first thing he says in reaction to his win- and that's what he focusses on! One situation, in a country far from this one.

Why?

MPs and councillors are elected to represent the people in their constituency. In this country. Foreign affairs can be important, sure, but they should not be more important than all domestic issues put together.

These people are making campaigns all about Gaza as their main campaign point and people are voting for them in sufficient numbers to win elections.

Why?

It's concerning, as it's so detrimental to societal cohesion.

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 09:22

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 08:56

I think the days of two party politics have gone. I’m fully expecting a coalition in 2029 and see it as nothing but healthy democracy. Voters are now saying “a plague on both your houses” to the Tories and Labour.

Too early to mention a Labour/Lib Dems/Green coalition? Brew

BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:22

Dweetfidilove · 27/02/2026 09:21

militant Islamic regime

Say what now?
😂😂😂😂

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Name an Islamic country that cares about minority rights

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 09:21

BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:17

"Vaguely progressive"

What do you feel the greens are not going far enough on?

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I’m interested too @Sa11yCinnamonwhat more would you want to see?

BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:21

Swiftie1878 · 27/02/2026 09:20

Communism (in disguise) is NOT progressive.

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It's not really communism though is it

Dweetfidilove · 27/02/2026 09:21

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militant Islamic regime

Say what now?
😂😂😂😂

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 09:21

Looks like the vote is split like Brexit was
49- 51%

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Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2026 09:20

MaturingCheeseball · 27/02/2026 09:02

So voting Green is going to put more money in your pocket? Millions of new arrivals is going to put a dent in that. It’s going to put a bit of a dent in the “green” countryside too. Never mind, we can all drug ourselves into oblivion on our legal crack.

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I'm not arguing in favour of the Greens.........but crack is very moreish

Swiftie1878 · 27/02/2026 09:20

Sa11yCinnamon · 27/02/2026 09:14

It's absolutely hilarious how terrified the gammons are of a young working class woman and a vaguely progressive party.

If you feel threatened by the Greens, consider that maybe it's you with the issue and not them..?

Communism (in disguise) is NOT progressive.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 27/02/2026 09:20

MaturingCheeseball · 27/02/2026 08:36

I must admit I am depressed. Have people not looked at the Greens’ policies?

And the win yesterday - it was on Gaza. I can’t imagine any Muslim voter being in favour of any Green policy except one.

It’s all bizarre.

This. It was all about Gaza. You can't replicate that across the whole UK.

Labour needs to take this as a wake-up call and do a LOT better. It's done some good stuff but its messaging is shit and all the U-turning has made it look weak.

Proudofitbabe · 27/02/2026 09:19

Boxthree · 27/02/2026 09:11

It's really interesting. Whilst most of the country has moved right, the Greens have succeeded by going very very left.

I'd like to think it's a protest against the Right Wing movement as much as against the government.

If the country has moved right, why would they protest vote in favour of a hard left party? I think the issue is most of the country is split on where to turn and the hard left activists were organized and united.

BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:17

Sa11yCinnamon · 27/02/2026 09:14

It's absolutely hilarious how terrified the gammons are of a young working class woman and a vaguely progressive party.

If you feel threatened by the Greens, consider that maybe it's you with the issue and not them..?

"Vaguely progressive"

What do you feel the greens are not going far enough on?

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 09:17

nomas · 27/02/2026 09:12

Seriously, this Islamophobia needs to stop.

This race baiting of Muslims as robots who only think of Gaza is idiotic and damaging.

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I agree that not all Muslims vote for a pro Gaza candidate but how do you explain the MPs and councillors who only focus on Gaza and not their own British constituents then?
This is the first time in living memory (and I am old) that MPs have won their seats by focus on another country and not Britain.

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MaturingCheeseball · 27/02/2026 09:16

But the woman is a “gammon”, right? Do you think she would have won if Gaza had not been front and centre of her campaign?

Imdunfer · 27/02/2026 09:16

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2026 08:57

It shows that people are desperate. The Labour/Conservative duopoly have shafted us. Working and making an honest living no longer buys you a decent lifestyle because they confiscate it all in tax to fund God knows what.

They confiscate it all in tax to pay the bill on the interest on the loans they took out to do the things that bought the votes in the previous 30 years elections.

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BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:16

Boxthree · 27/02/2026 09:11

It's really interesting. Whilst most of the country has moved right, the Greens have succeeded by going very very left.

I'd like to think it's a protest against the Right Wing movement as much as against the government.

I wish we could move beyond "right" and "left" as they are no longer fit for any real analytical purpose and damage our ability to seek consensus and work together

Sa11yCinnamon · 27/02/2026 09:14

It's absolutely hilarious how terrified the gammons are of a young working class woman and a vaguely progressive party.

If you feel threatened by the Greens, consider that maybe it's you with the issue and not them..?

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 09:13

Swiftie1878 · 27/02/2026 09:10

Having to vote for a lunatic party to avoid having to vote for a different lunatic party, to lodge a protest vote against the country’s ruling party clearly shows we are in deep, deep trouble in this country.

Thanks. That is exactly what I meant when posting this thread.

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MaturingCheeseball · 27/02/2026 09:13

In Iran the progressives (including many activist women) teamed up with the fundamentalists to topple the Shah. And then look what happened…

The Greens are useful idiots.

Screamingabdabz · 27/02/2026 09:13

AngelinaFibres · 27/02/2026 08:58

Given that the Green party believe trans women are women and are led by a man who gives me the absolute creeps I'm surprised they get any votes at all.

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They don’t believe it. Nobody does. They just want to diminish actual women and this is the perfect ‘hate in plain sight’ way to do it.

nomas · 27/02/2026 09:12

MaturingCheeseball · 27/02/2026 08:36

I must admit I am depressed. Have people not looked at the Greens’ policies?

And the win yesterday - it was on Gaza. I can’t imagine any Muslim voter being in favour of any Green policy except one.

It’s all bizarre.

Seriously, this Islamophobia needs to stop.

This race baiting of Muslims as robots who only think of Gaza is idiotic and damaging.

Boxthree · 27/02/2026 09:11

It's really interesting. Whilst most of the country has moved right, the Greens have succeeded by going very very left.

I'd like to think it's a protest against the Right Wing movement as much as against the government.

randomchap · 27/02/2026 09:10

All countries are doomed.

Short to medium term

Environmental breakdown including soil degradation, loss of habitat, climate change, and pollution means that food will become scarce.

Resources such as oil and gas are rapidly being depleted

Population growth is unsustainable globally

AI will destabilise countries as bad actors will generate AI videos that are indistinguishable from reality in order to push their political aims

AI will destroy jobs

Happy Friday everyone