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This country is doomed

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 08:29

While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

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LoveItaly · 27/02/2026 09:32

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:31

It’s been too late for many years.

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Sadly I agree, was trying to be positive about it.

ExtraOnions · 27/02/2026 09:32

Wellthisisdifficult · 27/02/2026 08:59

So according to your post it’s tactical voting largely driven by ethnicity?

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Nope … you don’t have to be an Ethnic Minority to vote against Racist rhetoric.

You are less likely to garner support, if you tell the voter that they are “lesser” due to the colour of their skin

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:32

Dweetfidilove · 27/02/2026 09:30

I'm not here to educate you. Not on this blessed Friday, and certainly not when my post had nothing to do with what you're asking. Peace out ✌🏾.

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So no then 😂

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:31

LoveItaly · 27/02/2026 09:31

I know, it’s the refusal to face reality, and read up on where this has already happened, that is baffling and depressing. It won’t be too long before we are too late to change the trajectory.

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It’s been too late for many years.

LoveItaly · 27/02/2026 09:31

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:28

This. Copy, paste.

When people show you who they are, believe them.

They literally repeatedly tell us their plans and yet leftist idiots fall over themselves to disbelieve it. This country cannot be helped!

Minds so open their brains fell out.

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I know, it’s the refusal to face reality, and read up on where this has already happened, that is baffling and depressing. It won’t be too long before we are too late to change the trajectory.

Dweetfidilove · 27/02/2026 09:30

BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:28

Can you? If you can think of any, now would be a great time to educate me

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I'm not here to educate you. Not on this blessed Friday, and certainly not when my post had nothing to do with what you're asking. Peace out ✌🏾.

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 09:30

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:26

It’s not the first time, it’s been happening for a while. See as an example the MP for Harehills who won in the GE.

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As many as five MPs in the last GE won their seats by their Gaza stance. Five. I have never heard of the MP for Harehills.

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loislovesstewie · 27/02/2026 09:30

Wordsmithery · 27/02/2026 08:36

I've voted Green for years and would be delighted if they were successful at the next election. Obviously a Reform win would be highly problematic though. What's your issue with the Green party exactly?

Their policies are beyond crazy, legalising all drugs,( or maybe decriminalization would be the better word to use), open borders, thinking men can become women, just to name a few.

AmberDreams · 27/02/2026 09:29

The problem we have now is there are 2 groups of voters. The first vote on religious grounds and appear more concerned with issues that are nothing to do with the UK. Everyone else votes against the parties they don’t like rather than in favour of any specific party.

I’d love to see a party with candidates who I felt genuinely represented me and my view of the world but that pretty much never happens so I end up having to vote to keep out the worst alternative. It’s not a healthy state of affairs for any democracy.

DrMorbius · 27/02/2026 09:29

The Greens under Polanski are just vote chasing, snake oil salesmen. They are unashamedly trawling for any disenfranchised votes. If the next by-election was on Epstein Island, the Greens would chase the paedophile and child sex voters.
Producing a British election video, in a foreign language is obscene.

LancashireButterPie · 27/02/2026 09:29

I'm actually disgusted with Starmer over this. He kept Andy Burnham out of the running to save his own arse as Burnham would have initiated a leadership challenge against him at some point.

He sacrificed Gorton and Denton.

I have a lot of concerns about the Greens policies, but actually legalising drugs isn't one of them. Drug pushers and gangs would be a thing of the past. When you could buy drugs at a shop (like with the arguably equally dangerous alcohol) at least you don't have county lines lads with knives on the streets. The drug barons would be gutted though.

BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:28

Dweetfidilove · 27/02/2026 09:25

Why?

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Can you? If you can think of any, now would be a great time to educate me

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:28

LoveItaly · 27/02/2026 09:24

If people took the time to read up on how Islamists gained power in Iran through left wing parties during the 1979 revolution, they may be a bit more concerned about this result. It seems to me that the Green Party is being used as a Trojan Horse, worrying times.

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This. Copy, paste.

When people show you who they are, believe them.

They literally repeatedly tell us their plans and yet leftist idiots fall over themselves to disbelieve it. This country cannot be helped!

Minds so open their brains fell out.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 27/02/2026 09:27

Dragonscaledaisy · 27/02/2026 09:26

Do you think the results would be the same if Andy Burnham had been the Labour candidate?

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He'd have won.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 27/02/2026 09:27

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:26

It’s not the first time, it’s been happening for a while. See as an example the MP for Harehills who won in the GE.

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Also George Galloway.

Dragonscaledaisy · 27/02/2026 09:26

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 08:56

I think the days of two party politics have gone. I’m fully expecting a coalition in 2029 and see it as nothing but healthy democracy. Voters are now saying “a plague on both your houses” to the Tories and Labour.

Do you think the results would be the same if Andy Burnham had been the Labour candidate?

peanutbuttertoasty · 27/02/2026 09:26

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 09:17

I agree that not all Muslims vote for a pro Gaza candidate but how do you explain the MPs and councillors who only focus on Gaza and not their own British constituents then?
This is the first time in living memory (and I am old) that MPs have won their seats by focus on another country and not Britain.

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It’s not the first time, it’s been happening for a while. See as an example the MP for Harehills who won in the GE.

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 09:25

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I was quoting the votes on my thread not the bielection!

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Dweetfidilove · 27/02/2026 09:25

BlueJuniper94 · 27/02/2026 09:22

Name an Islamic country that cares about minority rights

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Why?

PullingOutHair123 · 27/02/2026 09:25

It’s a protest vote. Not unheard of. Quite usual.

Out of the two evils, I’m glad greens won over reform. I don’t like the greens either for the record. But it’s not in anyway a sign that they’ll be running the country after the next GE.

Kingmakers? Maybe. Unlikely! And look what happened to the Lib Dem’s when they went into coalition - it’s taken years for them to get close to being taken seriously again.

Melarus · 27/02/2026 09:24

So you're worried that politics is becoming more divisive, and people are being pushed towards voting for parties with more extreme policies?

And you're responding to this by coming on a public forum and writing about it in deliberately exaggerated terms ("We're doomed!"), sparking a thread that will inevitably result in people doubling down, entrenching their positions, attacking one another, and taking more extreme positions in an effort to "win the thread"?

Sa11yCinnamon · 27/02/2026 09:24

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 09:21

I’m interested too @Sa11yCinnamonwhat more would you want to see?

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That was a poor choice of phrase, I just meant they're not as radical as a lot of folk are making out.

LoveItaly · 27/02/2026 09:24

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If people took the time to read up on how Islamists gained power in Iran through left wing parties during the 1979 revolution, they may be a bit more concerned about this result. It seems to me that the Green Party is being used as a Trojan Horse, worrying times.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 27/02/2026 09:23

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 09:21

Looks like the vote is split like Brexit was
49- 51%

I didn't vote as I don't think the country is doomed because of one more Green MP. By-elections aren't general elections, they're nearly always a protest vote. But I do think the main political parties need to heed the warning and do better. The problem is, the wrong people go into politics and then end up doing more infighting - or trying to enrich themselves - than actual governing. Labour's mistake is that the party always selects 'yes men' (or women) candidates as MPs then ends up with a weak government and weak leadership.

HopSpringsEternal · 27/02/2026 09:23

Proudofitbabe · 27/02/2026 08:58

I think it’s their relentless pursuit of “progressive” that’s killed them off. The average working class joe doesn’t care about trans issues, and the average activist will pick the more radical option when it’s offered, ie the Greens.
Most people want a party focused on tackling the many issues affecting the majority - economy, taxes, law and order, education, immigration.

Identity politics is killing this country, activists uniting to put too many incompetent idealogues in power while the rest have nowhere credible to go.

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Actually, I agree with you, and I think progressive was the wrong word. What I was trying to say is they should stop with all the populist shite. And focus on supporting inclusive growth.