This country is doomed

The Green Party and Zarah Sultana both support one Palestinian state ‘from the river to the sea’.

Nope.

They do plenty of banging on about protecting Christian values on SM platforms already.

I want to vote Green. I've been Labour all my life but they've become too right wing for me. I suspect a lot of people feel like me regarding issues like benefits and immigration. The only reason I might not is to prevent a Reform candidate getting in.

So you’d have no issue with Reform handing out leaflets outside churches about how they will defend Christian values?

I do with the LibDems hadn't banjaxed themselves by capitulating over tuition fees whilst in coalition...they could have been a viable, less batshit than the greens option for many. They could have caved on something else 😢

Is it not more Islamophobic to believe that most Muslims support crossing into the country next door and killing 1200 odd civilians including children, kidnapping 250 more and strangling some babies? Just curious as to where the line lies.

As to “speaking up against genocide” it seems the height of luxury to cast your vote on the basis of international issues unless the country you live in is a combatant (also “Palestine is in danger of a genocide” is a comparatively weak claim - in El Fasher 6000 civilians of Zaghawa and Fur ethnicity reported killed over 25-27 Oct last year; UN concerned this ongoing violence may be at genocidal levels; Palestine has an increasing population and also increasing child obesity levels - points to a class divide in the country, not a genocide) more logical to consider local/ national priorities in selecting local / national representation, given we have plenty to be going on with and much more control over them.

It is all detailed here https://x.com/spikedonline/status/2027296400195698957?s=46

I suspect you will dismiss the source as biased, but it is detailing objective examples.

Yes, communicating with the electorate by the sound of it. How fucking dare they.

Did you read what I wrote?

I don't think anyone (except the most extreme) think that Israel as a state should cease to exist. They should just stop trying to take over other areas, and killing all the civilians that stand in their way.

The point is we historically have not had people voting along sectarian lines in this country

Laughs in NI

No one’s telling them to go …lol. Just stop blowing up children for a start.

True and Gaza is a humanitarian issue not religious.

Where are all the Jews in Israel going to go once Israel ceases to exist, then?

Bearing in mind they have been driven out of every other country in the region.

Link now or it isn’t true and you’re a troll of the highest order.

But you are saying voting in support gaza = islamic sectarianism? That doesn't add up? I support Gaza, I am not muslim.

I've voted green before, only in locals but would have voted for them in a GE if it had been less of a wasted vote.

But this incarnation really worries me.
I strongly dislike their ideas on drugs & on womens rights, I think they are economically very poor, and I dont love that they focussed on Gaza in a UK election.
Immigration is not my biggest voting issue but I worry they would be pretty bad here too.

The overriding sense, is that they feel like they are "good guys" by definition. They can only adopt ideas and policies that have a feel good factor, e.g. legalise everything, let everyone do what they want, get the rich to pay for everything. I think governing is about making hard choices and I feel these Greens will be unable to do this.

Both the greens and reform are opposite sides of the same extreme coin.

Their support for things like open borders, legalised heroin, unlimited government debt and political violence when they agree with the cause are just as radical as Reform on the right.

Being against the political ideology of Zionism is not antisemitic in itself, even if many jews agree with it.

People who don't agree with Zionism don't support ethnic cleansing of jews from Israel (the state, not the biblical area), conversely they disagree with ethnic cleansing of non-jews from surrounding areas.

They have issued leaflets in this campaign on how voting green aligns with Islam and in languages used by Muslim communities.

They knew exactly what they were doing.

What's the nonsense about the issue of Gaza winning the vote?

I've not see that anywhere apart from this very right leaning website.

My concern is that a more popular Green party just splits the left leaning vote and allows the racist bigots of Reform to get elected in constituencies where they had no chance.

This country is doomed? I'll tell you why it's doomed.

1. The highly racist , completely ignorant and factually incorrect thread we had about immigration on here this morning demonstrating how gullible and stupid the British voting public are.
2. A FB post from the Daily Mirror about a young Muslim man being stabbed to death got nearly 400 laughing emojis. That's Farage's politics of hate for you.

We will get a Reform Government, and this country will turn into a cess pit of right wing hate. We will be boycotted and ostracised.

Yes because I have a personal vendetta against scottishgirl69. Adios.

It’s not sectarian though is it? Since when have the greens been a Muslim party?

Personally, I won’t be putting any money on the new Green MP retaining her seat at the next GE.

Starmer’s fear of Andy Burnham has well and truly come back to bite him on the
bum.

I understand the difference perfectly well. It is possible to criticise the Israeli government (which I agree with) without being anti-Semitic. However, too many on the far left use the term anti-Zionist as an excuse to be anti-Semitic.

It is anti-Semitic in my view to support the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Israel.

Well it doesn't matter because they will never get in. And even if they did, they're not fit to be in charge of a jacket potato, never mind the country.