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This country is doomed

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 08:29

While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

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RedToothBrush · 27/02/2026 16:39

Minervano1 · 27/02/2026 16:34

One discrimination case. Which for a major political party is pretty low-key stuff.

Hmm not really given their income and what the case cost.

DavidPeckham · 27/02/2026 16:39

LoftyPlumLion · 27/02/2026 15:46

Politics home is owned by cock Ashcroft so hardly a bastion of impartiality.

dont get played. Always ask who is telling you something.

So would you accept the Green Party constitution, party leader and deputy section 4?

greenparty.org.uk/about/our-constitution/

“The post of deputy leader will be held as a job share with two individuals, at least one of whom must be a woman or a non-binary person (noting that gender is self-determined).“

Or is that me getting played too? I would suggest it is most probably yourself who is the less informed one.

Minervano1 · 27/02/2026 16:34

Underthinker · 27/02/2026 16:16

The woman part is pretty accurate. Their last manifesto stated they would push for self ID. Plus they expel gender critical members, and have lost several discrimination cases as a result.

One discrimination case. Which for a major political party is pretty low-key stuff.

thetinsoldier · 27/02/2026 16:33

Wordsmithery · 27/02/2026 08:36

I've voted Green for years and would be delighted if they were successful at the next election. Obviously a Reform win would be highly problematic though. What's your issue with the Green party exactly?

The issue with them? That they have totally forgotten their raison d’être and are wholly focused on rolling back the rights of women.

Naunet · 27/02/2026 16:31

Minervano1 · 27/02/2026 16:00

This is painful to read because it's so incredibly inaccurate. You clearly have too much FYP news.

The Greens are deeply, deeply misogynistic.

Vinvertebrate · 27/02/2026 16:31

FOJN · 27/02/2026 16:04

I didn't mention Israel. I commented that the UK government hadn't condoned the actions of Iran in response to your "but what about Iran" post. I condemn the killing of children and non combatants whatever their ethnicity, religion or geographical location. I believe consistently applying principles is an essential component of integrity. You cannot shame me or guilt me by accusing me of things I do not feel or believe. Name call to your heart's content IDGAF. Hope that helps to clarify.

You wrote “The UK government didn’t <insert various things that Israel is accused of>”. I was actually agreeing with another PP about the erosion of international law, but expressing (slightly disingenuous) “surprise” that the only time people in the UK are angry enough to march in the streets over civilian deaths is when Israel is causing them. You kind of proved my point with your response, but didn’t actually answer any of my questions. Why does mentioning Iran make people blurt out stuff about Israel (who cannot, by any stretch, be blamed for the actions of the IRGC)? And where is the blanket media coverage, as we saw in Israel/Gaza? Are you somehow more dead if the IDF shoots you in Gaza instead of a nutter on the back of a truck in Tehran?

But then if you have all that integrity, you will be as appalled as me by the deaths of so many innocents in Iran at the hands of despotic Islamist murderers, because you will agree that they are deluded, medieval, misogynist motherfuckers who fund appalling terrorist groups and are determined to drag Iran’s long-suffering and brave populace back to the dark ages, to which their evil ideology should be confined.

Underthinker · 27/02/2026 16:16

Minervano1 · 27/02/2026 16:00

This is painful to read because it's so incredibly inaccurate. You clearly have too much FYP news.

The woman part is pretty accurate. Their last manifesto stated they would push for self ID. Plus they expel gender critical members, and have lost several discrimination cases as a result.

Pluto46 · 27/02/2026 16:08

FPTP will be the end of this country - unless Deloitte or PWC form a party or, at least, someone with half a clue about economics then we are indeed doomed. If any of these ideologists, with no fiscal understanding, get in then we are beyond help and, frankly, deserve what's coming to us because we are too stupid or scared, as a nation, to talk about uncomfortable issues. If this site (God help us) reflects the nation, then you can't raise issues about immigration without being deemed a racist or issues with welfare without being deemed a benefit basher.

Firry · 27/02/2026 16:06

FOJN · 27/02/2026 16:04

I didn't mention Israel. I commented that the UK government hadn't condoned the actions of Iran in response to your "but what about Iran" post. I condemn the killing of children and non combatants whatever their ethnicity, religion or geographical location. I believe consistently applying principles is an essential component of integrity. You cannot shame me or guilt me by accusing me of things I do not feel or believe. Name call to your heart's content IDGAF. Hope that helps to clarify.

It’s nothing to do with the UK. Why the hell do we care what one country does to another? We cannot change anything. Neither side gives a monkeys what we think. Why waste politicians time on something they have no influence on? It makes no sense whatsoever.

RedToothBrush · 27/02/2026 16:05

nomoreforks · 27/02/2026 15:57

The woman who won was very inspiring and I like Zack Polanski. The Green party policies are insane though. Do they understand basic economics? As a country we have a tough fiscal situation and there is no money without economic growth which the labour party have done a great job of halting. The Greens feel like a sixth form party with great ideas (which I completely agree with) but in real life would be disasterous for everyone and would leave us all poorer. Don't like Reform who are like the Greens but at the other end of the spectrum. I hope that the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems all improve because if Green/Reform do well then we all need to leave the country.

The Sixth Form Party sums it up well.

It's not that some ideas don't have some merit. They absolutely do. It's just that they are still at playschool level of development of those ideas with no idea of the real world because they havent been fully thought through and how it's just going to be a total car crash.

"We should do this!" (As if no one has ever thought about it before).
When presented with the case for why it's not a viable option because of practical conditions and knock on implications there's a huffy tantrum that Kevin would be proud of "I hate you! Why do you hate me?!"

I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this mentality.

Firry · 27/02/2026 16:04

Skybunnee · 27/02/2026 15:59

We need to cut welfare and remove triple lock, encourage businesses but no one would agree with those so it doesn’t matter who gets in.

Exactly. 100%. But this won’t win votes. This is why the country is stuffed. No one likes the people who are voicing the uncomfortable truth. Let’s just believe in magic money trees and ‘someone other than me’ paying all the tax!

FOJN · 27/02/2026 16:04

Vinvertebrate · 27/02/2026 15:45

So you’re not going to tell me what the point of your post was, other than “but Israel”? Rightio.

I didn't mention Israel. I commented that the UK government hadn't condoned the actions of Iran in response to your "but what about Iran" post. I condemn the killing of children and non combatants whatever their ethnicity, religion or geographical location. I believe consistently applying principles is an essential component of integrity. You cannot shame me or guilt me by accusing me of things I do not feel or believe. Name call to your heart's content IDGAF. Hope that helps to clarify.

Minervano1 · 27/02/2026 16:00

ParmaVioletTea · 27/02/2026 15:12

The Greens don't know what a woman is.

And the local by-election campaign was won on their anti-Semitic policies.

This is painful to read because it's so incredibly inaccurate. You clearly have too much FYP news.

Skybunnee · 27/02/2026 15:59

We need to cut welfare and remove triple lock, encourage businesses but no one would agree with those so it doesn’t matter who gets in.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 27/02/2026 15:59

MaturingCheeseball · 27/02/2026 08:36

I must admit I am depressed. Have people not looked at the Greens’ policies?

And the win yesterday - it was on Gaza. I can’t imagine any Muslim voter being in favour of any Green policy except one.

It’s all bizarre.

Which policies concern you ?

nomoreforks · 27/02/2026 15:57

The woman who won was very inspiring and I like Zack Polanski. The Green party policies are insane though. Do they understand basic economics? As a country we have a tough fiscal situation and there is no money without economic growth which the labour party have done a great job of halting. The Greens feel like a sixth form party with great ideas (which I completely agree with) but in real life would be disasterous for everyone and would leave us all poorer. Don't like Reform who are like the Greens but at the other end of the spectrum. I hope that the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems all improve because if Green/Reform do well then we all need to leave the country.

Firry · 27/02/2026 15:56

LoftyPlumLion · 27/02/2026 15:46

Politics home is owned by cock Ashcroft so hardly a bastion of impartiality.

dont get played. Always ask who is telling you something.

what is inaccurate?

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 15:54

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 15:53

I don't think Starmer or the Labour Party consider the result 'a storm in a tea cup'.

I don’t think they feel it is either. It’s pretty damaging. But May is coming up which could be even more pronounced.

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 15:53

igelkott2026 · 27/02/2026 15:41

It's always like this after a by-election. There was a 47% turnout and the Labour candidate who would have probably won wasn't allowed to stand.

All a storm in a teacup - I'm just glad Reform didn't win.

I don't think Starmer or the Labour Party consider the result 'a storm in a tea cup'.

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Underthinker · 27/02/2026 15:52

LoftyPlumLion · 27/02/2026 15:46

Politics home is owned by cock Ashcroft so hardly a bastion of impartiality.

dont get played. Always ask who is telling you something.

The Green's complete belief in gender ideology is well known. They even expel women for having gender critical views.

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 15:50

AnnHedonia · 27/02/2026 15:28

You're quite right, OP. The country is doomed. But not because of the Greens or Labour.

I didn't intend to imply that it was only due to the Greens or Labour.

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VaxMerstappen · 27/02/2026 15:48

I find it disheartening that politics on both sides seem to be lurching further and further to the extreme fringes, and as a result Labour/Conservatives are having to follow that way too to appeal to those voters.

Where have the sensible, centrist, moderate parties disappeared to? That's who I'd support. Not some far right or far left party of nutters with ridiculous policies.

Saying that, at this rate and given the derth of other suitable options, I think I'll be tempted to vote monster raving looney party next time!

nomas · 27/02/2026 15:47

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 27/02/2026 13:42

Oh dear we don't like pointing out your laughable silencing tactics do we.😂

And what would those be? Since you enjoy following me thread to thread.

LoftyPlumLion · 27/02/2026 15:46

DavidPeckham · 27/02/2026 15:34

Nope.

www.politicshome.com/news/article/legal-row-over-green-party-leadership-rules

A Green Party Spokesperson told PoliticsHome: "The Green Party's internal rules state that if a single leader is elected, there must be two deputy leaders of different genders, noting that gender is self-defined.

So, for them a woman is anyone who says they are a woman. Note the clever use of gender rather than sex hey. The result is still the same - Nigel Farage could claim he’s now female and take the place of a biological woman. You’re also voting for a man of course who said he can increase women’s breast sizes through the power of his mind. Yup, they are the party with a sound grasp on what a woman is for sure…

Politics home is owned by cock Ashcroft so hardly a bastion of impartiality.

dont get played. Always ask who is telling you something.

Vinvertebrate · 27/02/2026 15:45

FOJN · 27/02/2026 15:07

Except I didn't say any of that but good for you for shoe horning an accusation of
anti-semitism into your reply. The word has been so egregiously abused it's lost it's power to silence people.

So you’re not going to tell me what the point of your post was, other than “but Israel”? Rightio.