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This country is doomed

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 08:29

While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

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Underthinker · 27/02/2026 18:45

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:43

It’s a million miles from Farage. Wealth tax, more housing, improved public services, cohesive communities. It couldn’t be more different.

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I haven't heard it yet.
Did she mention legalising all drugs, self ID, and declaring zionism racist? Or is the extreme stuff being saved for another day?

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:43

Psychosislotus · 27/02/2026 18:38

Yes I have listened to it. That’s really not far off what Nigel says with the underlying message ‘work doesn’t pay’

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It’s a million miles from Farage. Wealth tax, more housing, improved public services, cohesive communities. It couldn’t be more different.

Psychosislotus · 27/02/2026 18:38

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:35

So I was asking what parts of green make that a leftist party to you.

If you read Hannah Spencer’s acceptance speech all will become clear.

Yes I have listened to it. That’s really not far off what Nigel says with the underlying message ‘work doesn’t pay’

PhaedraWas · 27/02/2026 18:38

Psychosislotus · 27/02/2026 18:33

Yes was asking what left is to you.

PP and I are obviously recognising something in reform and greens which we dont like - I am going to assume populist extremism, authoritarianism, absolutism. I think they both sound quite dangerous.

PP was trying to talk about that and all it came back with was a comment about left and centre. So I was asking what parts of green make that a leftist party to you. I am not trying to argue with you. It’s subjective anyway so there is no right or wrong. I was just interested.

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The Greens are basically Communists. The Scottish Greens are even more hard left.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:35

So I was asking what parts of green make that a leftist party to you.

If you read Hannah Spencer’s acceptance speech all will become clear.

Psychosislotus · 27/02/2026 18:33

glitterpaperchain · 27/02/2026 18:25

'How is the Greens got anything to do with the left?'

Sorry? Are you asking what left wing politics is? And also saying the greens are insane?

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Yes was asking what left is to you.

PP and I are obviously recognising something in reform and greens which we dont like - I am going to assume populist extremism, authoritarianism, absolutism. I think they both sound quite dangerous.

PP was trying to talk about that and all it came back with was a comment about left and centre. So I was asking what parts of green make that a leftist party to you. I am not trying to argue with you. It’s subjective anyway so there is no right or wrong. I was just interested.

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 18:33

nomas · 27/02/2026 18:30

Are you for real? BoJo was a clown, he had zero respect.

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Yes as real as you.

Look at the SM feeds and comments. Labour get destroyed on there. Greens are liked, and Kemi.

nomas · 27/02/2026 18:30

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 18:25

I agree with you too. Looking at the social media Labour are so bad at it they are just ridiculed.

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Are you for real? BoJo was a clown, he had zero respect.

nomas · 27/02/2026 18:29

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 27/02/2026 17:42

I have hardly posted in the last month, but if I am commenting it’s because of the laughable things you are writing that stick out like a sore thumb among other posts.

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What sticks out though? Name one thing.

gannett · 27/02/2026 18:26

glitterpaperchain · 27/02/2026 17:57

The fact that you think the Greens are extremist shows that the left has been absolutely destroyed, Labour is just centrist now

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The demonisation of the left has been happening for decades. Remember when Ed Miliband, about as milquetoast a moderate-left social democrat as you could imagine, was labelled RED ED by the tabloids? Laughable. They should have interviewed his mother to find out what being proper left was about.

Calling current Labour centrist would be generous indeed given their flirtations with (and sometimes embrace of) far-right rhetoric.

glitterpaperchain · 27/02/2026 18:26

Pollqueen · 27/02/2026 18:22

Where to start? 🤔

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Are you having trouble thinking of something?

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 18:25

the80sweregreat · 27/02/2026 17:45

David Peckham, I so agree with your post!
The Greens have elected a leader who resonates with the younger voters by being personable ( Hannah Spencer seems like this too)
If it’s real or not , I don’t know , but it seems to have worked. I don’t agree with their policies, but for some politicians to have the gift of appearing to be your friend seems to work. For all his many faults , Boris Johnson had that gift ( as does Andy burnham)
Unfortunately it’s passed Sir Keir starmer by!

I agree with you too. Looking at the social media Labour are so bad at it they are just ridiculed.

glitterpaperchain · 27/02/2026 18:25

Psychosislotus · 27/02/2026 18:14

I dont get what you mean by that.

To me they are the same - like PP two sides of the same coin. Both utterly insane.

How is the greens got anything to do with the left?

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'How is the Greens got anything to do with the left?'

Sorry? Are you asking what left wing politics is? And also saying the greens are insane?

Pollqueen · 27/02/2026 18:22

Wordsmithery · 27/02/2026 08:36

I've voted Green for years and would be delighted if they were successful at the next election. Obviously a Reform win would be highly problematic though. What's your issue with the Green party exactly?

Where to start? 🤔

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:20

Psychosislotus · 27/02/2026 18:14

I dont get what you mean by that.

To me they are the same - like PP two sides of the same coin. Both utterly insane.

How is the greens got anything to do with the left?

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Maybe you need to do some research and look at what progressive politics actually means.

Psychosislotus · 27/02/2026 18:14

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:01

Absolutely.

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I dont get what you mean by that.

To me they are the same - like PP two sides of the same coin. Both utterly insane.

How is the greens got anything to do with the left?

Maia77 · 27/02/2026 18:05

tobee · 27/02/2026 17:35

“I like Greens, I like living in an ideological fantasy world!”

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Yes, and the one we have now is amazing.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:01

glitterpaperchain · 27/02/2026 17:57

The fact that you think the Greens are extremist shows that the left has been absolutely destroyed, Labour is just centrist now

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Absolutely.

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 17:58

Not quite sure why my comment has been posted numerous times!!!

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 17:52

As I posted elsewhere Reform and the Greens are two sides of the same coin. Both are extremist parties now.

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The fact that you think the Greens are extremist shows that the left has been absolutely destroyed, Labour is just centrist now

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 17:54

DavidPeckham · 27/02/2026 17:37

The basics as I see it are that both labour and conservative have failed their core voters. Neither have delivered what the centre right or centre left want and have become a jumbled mess of who knows what. Neither party has any soul. I’m very much a god king and country type but the conservatives are no longer that. Equally if you are a traditional labour voter all you’ve seen is rich Islington elites pushing trans rights and free Palestine at the expense of what matters to you trying to make ends meet day to day. Both parties have completely lost their core values and voting base, and this is why there is the huge political shift happening in this country.

So, in steps reform and the Green Party. Reform’s tactics are pretty easy to understand - sell the Britain first message and restore national pride. This will appeal to huge numbers of voters who are tired of being called racist or nazi for being concerned about large scale unchecked immigration that has seen public services and traditional communities ripped apart. They were promised that Brexit would deliver control of our borders but in reality it has achieved nothing of the sort.

And then the Green’s. I can see the strategic playbook a mile off. Align yourself with Palestine and trans rights and attract vast swathes of voters to your cause. A home for the guardianista academic types who would have traditionally voted labour married uncomfortably to at the very least conservative Islam, if not radical, and of course the woke elements of the current culture wars. Clever really. Does this voting base care about deforestation or the plight of polar bears? Some might but who really cares, the greens are tired of having no seats in parliament and this is their opportunity given the void left by the traditional Labour Party. They are debating shortly on whether Zionism should be equated with racism, and in essence supporting a single Palestinian state which will eradicate Israel and align the Green Party with the stated goals of Hamas. This motion is being tabled by Lubna Speitan a member of various pro-Palestinian groups. This is the same Hamas lest we forget who raped and slaughtered women and babies amongst others on October 7th 2023. Make no mistake that this is antisemitism dressed up with blonde hair and a green jacket.

Support who you want but do it with your eyes open.

Well said 👏

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 17:52

Wolverine23 · 27/02/2026 17:32

alright let’s just get a Trump in? I’m sure that will help the country. knock it off will you. Reformat a hateful divisive party

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As I posted elsewhere Reform and the Greens are two sides of the same coin. Both are extremist parties now.

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