This country is doomed

The Snp in Scotland have managed to build a lot more council housing in Scotland than Labour did here when they ran Holyrood. Not enough but they've managed it

We bring it back into circulation by taxing it. That's what taxes are.

I'm not the biggest fan of the Greens but I wouldn't just write them off as being awful. I actually joined them a few years ago but they don't have much presence in my area. Gillian McKay is my regional MSP but they have no MPs and no councillors in my particular area and never have had

I live in social housing and I have spoken about this on another thread. I only got a council flat because I took a flat in a very hard to let area - my brother bought a flat two years ago after a relationship split (long story but the split was acrimonious and he eventually walked away from his share of the house and started again)

He was lucky that he could afford to buy a flat because house prices here aren't that bad - not everyone is that lucky

'We would introduce a land value tax to shift tax from tenants to landlords; increase taxes on empty properties to incentivise bringing them back into use; and introduce national insurance on rental income so landlords pay the same tax on their earnings as everyone else.'

https://croydon.greenparty.org.uk/2025/10/26/abolish-landlords/

I used musk because he has the most money in the world so a good example of these mega billionaires. I actually googled after and he actually had nearly 900 billion!!! Wild!

I am not sure what is difficult to understand in what I am saying. Its circulation isn’t it. The money is already out of circulation when it’s locked up at the bottom of billionaires bank accounts. So if we want to redistribute it why not just do it. You don’t need to take it from them because they aren’t going to use it anyway. It makes sense to me. If you can tell me the bit you don’t understand then might be able to try again.

Well the greens ain't coming for my pension that's for sure. I've just checked my pension pot (40k). To be fair I have two that I haven't transferred over to the site where all my pensions are consolidated (I paid into one work pension for five years and I would lose benefits if I transferred that over ).

Yes some people need to rent, so the Greens want to increase social housing so they rent from the council, at a fair rate, rather than private landlords who rent homes for profit. Honestly do people really just loudly oppose greens without any actual knowledge of their policies? Silly question, yes they do it's all over this thread

That makes zero sense. And why Musk? He’s a total irrelevance to UK politics.

Are you aware that two of these are not actually green party policies?

And 'abolish landlords' is a shorthand for a very detailed plan to make homes accessible and fair

https://croydon.greenparty.org.uk/2025/10/26/abolish-landlords/

Abolishing private landlords sounds like an absolutely brilliant idea

Its not my single issue, but i would never vote for a party that fully embraced gender ideology, any more than I would vote for a party that enshrined tenets of scientology or flat earthism into law and ejected any dissenters on those issues from the party.

And its not just women who take that stance, I'm male.

I thought she meant house plus pension? Even a few Labour supporters probably have that.

Completely open borders, leave NATO (gift to Putin!) abolish private landlords for starters.

must be nice having a pension pot of a million, no doubt you earnt it with no privilege at all.

Why would you need a one million pension pot? Are you planning to live to 120?

😂 sorry! I don’t know how else to explain it! 😂😂😂

Its been a good chat though thankyou

I apologise if I misread your post but it sounded very much as though you were saying that if Muslims hadn’t voted on Gaza they had probably voted on immigration. Which would definitely be a very weird (and racist) assessment of the priorities of Muslim voters. As well as the separation of ‘muslim
voters’ from ‘voters’

No, no it makes absolutely no sense at all

We don’t need ideological dreams, we need reality. Realistic actionable ideas.

No I am saying super rich people aren’t ever going to use that money. Say for example Elon with his 100 billion or whatever it is now. He’s never going to use 90 billion of that. That’s pretty easy to say as it’s just impossible. So rather than take 90 billion from him. You could just print 90 billion. It doesnt actually make any difference. But people would say we can’t do that - not sure why - inflation I assume? But if that’s the case redistributing wealth wouldn’t work either.

Does that make sense?

Open borders is an ideological dream, it is not an actual policy.

And I'm confused, you think we SHOULDN'T tax wealth because....rich people AREN'T using it? So you don't think that money should be used to help people?

That's not what I said. You interpreted it that way. Did you miss the part where I said it could have been for any number of reasons?

Actually no. I was responding to posts on here who said it was about Palestine.

I don't need to defend myself to someone on here who has chosen to paint me as racist when I'm absolutely nothing of the sort - hope that clarifies

What a miserable fucking thread

I think no borders are their biggest insane one. I know they say now is not the time but it’s their end goal. Still I just cannot take anyone seriously who thinks that’s feasible. If we don’t have borders and citizenship then we don’t have democracy.

Not sure I like the idea of wealth tax tbh. For truly wealthy people who this would apply to in my mind - well that’s just a number or an asset and that’s locked away. So why not just print more anyway. You don’t actually have to take it away from them because they have so much they would never actually use that anyway. We don’t because printing money causes problems. So I don’t know how to square this circle and when I think it through it’s not clear to me. I also don’t think they are talking about billionaires - because they can’t get their money anyway so who are they talking about.

Their trans polices also don’t agree with. I am a woman not a gender. Protections, recognition, words to describe and acknowledgement of my sex class is important to me.

I think they are the headline ones to me. I do also feel uncomfortable about the Gaza stuff and also about the cosying up to Islam and how does that tally with LGBT rights. Theirs inconsistent value set there - unless the value aim is just ‘power’.

Lots of people on this thread have no idea what their actual policies are, it's very frustrating. It's very easy information to find