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This country is doomed

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 08:29

While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:40

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:39

To separate it from other Home Office functions. What’s the problem?

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So extra cost incurred for creating another civil service department. Guess that makes sense. Not.

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nomas · 27/02/2026 21:39

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:38

Nope. But vote within the law. Voting is done by individuals in secret, hence voting booths for privacy. You should not march people from your family into voting booths and mark their crosses for them. People who vote should not be coerced - it’s the law. Simple as that.

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Do you have any evidence for this bold claim?

Or are you displaying sourness at not getting the result you wanted?

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:39

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:38

It's not the name. It's why would they get rid of the department that currently deals with immigration and put in another department to deal with immigration.

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To separate it from other Home Office functions. What’s the problem?

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:38

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:36

A name matters? Why?

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It's not the name. It's why would they get rid of the department that currently deals with immigration and put in another department to deal with immigration.

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Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:38

nomas · 27/02/2026 21:33

Why does a certain demographic think the rules of law don’t apply to them?

Translation: how dare Muslims vote.

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Nope. But vote within the law. Voting is done by individuals in secret, hence voting booths for privacy. You should not march people from your family into voting booths and mark their crosses for them. People who vote should not be coerced - it’s the law. Simple as that.

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:36

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:35

Of course it matters!

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A name matters? Why?

RafaistheKingofClay · 27/02/2026 21:36

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:30

Not at all. It’s all over the newsfeeds detailing who exactly have been voting for the Greens. It’s no secret.

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That wasn’t what you said. You said a certain demographic thinks the rule of law doesn’t apply to them.

And you seem to be very hesitant about specifically naming that demographic. Presumably because you know you will (rightly) get deleted for tarring an entire group with that.

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:35

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:35

Does it matter? They will have a department managing immigration. No open borders.

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Of course it matters!

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Leftieinthewild · 27/02/2026 21:35

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:20

I honestly had faith that the majority of the UK would shy away from Zak Polanski. Because he shows us who he is. He really is mad as a box of frogs, and doesn’t hide it. But allegations of cheating in the by election in Manchester need to be robustly investigated. Why does a certain demographic think the rules of law don’t apply to them? Making us an extension of the Middle East and open borders is not going to help this country. Our infrastructure is collapsing in plain sight, yet people think it’s a good idea to fling open our doors to invite others to climb on to this sinking ship.

Yay, facists following Trumps play book "racism for dummies". If you lose an election, claim it was stolen due to fraud and flood the zone with this narrative.

It really is pathetic.

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:35

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:34

How will that differ from the Home Office?

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Does it matter? They will have a department managing immigration. No open borders.

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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:34

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:33

The dedicated migration department they propose setting up.

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How will that differ from the Home Office?

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nomas · 27/02/2026 21:33

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:30

Not at all. It’s all over the newsfeeds detailing who exactly have been voting for the Greens. It’s no secret.

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Why does a certain demographic think the rules of law don’t apply to them?

Translation: how dare Muslims vote.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:33

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 27/02/2026 21:29

So who is going to manage their their 'managed immigration' when they dismantle the Home Office?

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The dedicated migration department they propose setting up.

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:33

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:30

Not at all. It’s all over the newsfeeds detailing who exactly have been voting for the Greens. It’s no secret.

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Who have been voting for thr Greens?

Do you have a break down?

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:32

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 27/02/2026 21:29

So who is going to manage their their 'managed immigration' when they dismantle the Home Office?

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Read their policies, maybe it is in there.

You were wrong on open borders, that is what I am trying to explain

notmuchtoit · 27/02/2026 21:31

I'd have voted for Greens to keep reform out.

notmuchtoit · 27/02/2026 21:30

I'd have voted for Greens.

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:30

RafaistheKingofClay · 27/02/2026 21:27

Don’t be shy. If you are going to make the claim you should name the ‘certain demographic’ rather than hiding behind euphemisms.

Or are you worried you may be deleted for racism for such a sweeping generalisation?

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Not at all. It’s all over the newsfeeds detailing who exactly have been voting for the Greens. It’s no secret.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 27/02/2026 21:29

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:20

My point was that that they don't want open borders.

Their policies need a lot of scrutinising and might well be pie in the sky but they don't say open borders.

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So who is going to manage their their 'managed immigration' when they dismantle the Home Office?

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:28

scottishgirl69 · 27/02/2026 21:19

That's rubbish. I worked in homeless units in 1995 - and street sleeping was actually almost eradicated in the UK -until UC came in. Also - please don't bother calling people who are pro Palestine Zionists if that's your next comment . You can support Palestine without being anti Jewish

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And you’ve just proved my point. Population in 1995 = 58 million. Population in 2026 = 70 million. And yes, support Palestine all you want, but stop trying to make the UK an extension of the Middle East. Let them sort out their own problems, which go far deeper than what’s been happening in Gaza and Israel. Stop making the Middle East’s problems our problems. Most of us don’t want it.

RafaistheKingofClay · 27/02/2026 21:27

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:20

I honestly had faith that the majority of the UK would shy away from Zak Polanski. Because he shows us who he is. He really is mad as a box of frogs, and doesn’t hide it. But allegations of cheating in the by election in Manchester need to be robustly investigated. Why does a certain demographic think the rules of law don’t apply to them? Making us an extension of the Middle East and open borders is not going to help this country. Our infrastructure is collapsing in plain sight, yet people think it’s a good idea to fling open our doors to invite others to climb on to this sinking ship.

Don’t be shy. If you are going to make the claim you should name the ‘certain demographic’ rather than hiding behind euphemisms.

Or are you worried you may be deleted for racism for such a sweeping generalisation?

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:25

Skinnysaluki · 27/02/2026 21:23

Not so much dog whistles as megaphones and loudspeakers in your posts

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‘‘Twas ever thus.

Skinnysaluki · 27/02/2026 21:23

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:20

I honestly had faith that the majority of the UK would shy away from Zak Polanski. Because he shows us who he is. He really is mad as a box of frogs, and doesn’t hide it. But allegations of cheating in the by election in Manchester need to be robustly investigated. Why does a certain demographic think the rules of law don’t apply to them? Making us an extension of the Middle East and open borders is not going to help this country. Our infrastructure is collapsing in plain sight, yet people think it’s a good idea to fling open our doors to invite others to climb on to this sinking ship.

Not so much dog whistles as megaphones and loudspeakers in your posts

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:20

I honestly had faith that the majority of the UK would shy away from Zak Polanski. Because he shows us who he is. He really is mad as a box of frogs, and doesn’t hide it. But allegations of cheating in the by election in Manchester need to be robustly investigated. Why does a certain demographic think the rules of law don’t apply to them? Making us an extension of the Middle East and open borders is not going to help this country. Our infrastructure is collapsing in plain sight, yet people think it’s a good idea to fling open our doors to invite others to climb on to this sinking ship.

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:20

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 27/02/2026 21:14

And you seem to be missing the part that the words "managed immigration" mean shit when the policies are the way they are.

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My point was that that they don't want open borders.

Their policies need a lot of scrutinising and might well be pie in the sky but they don't say open borders.