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HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 08:29

While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

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Underthinker · 27/02/2026 22:52

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 22:47

Yes I do. If it happened why didn’t they alert the polling clerks? Why didn’t they report it to the returning officer or police? Why aren’t there photos? Why didn’t the polling clerks see it? And why is it only Farage who’s frothing about it?

I don't know about the rest but the fact that it's illegal to take photos inside a polling station explains the lack of photos.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 22:47

1dayatatime · 27/02/2026 22:40

Do you think that Democracy Volunteers made this up?

If so why would they choose to make false reports for a relatively minor by election rather than the major Presidential elections that they cover?

Yes I do. If it happened why didn’t they alert the polling clerks? Why didn’t they report it to the returning officer or police? Why aren’t there photos? Why didn’t the polling clerks see it? And why is it only Farage who’s frothing about it?

climbintheback · 27/02/2026 22:46

Well it will be properly scrutinised next time now it’s been highlighted by the msm

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 22:44

Nigel Farage has reported cases of 'family voting' to the police, who say they have received a complaint.

Lord Robert Hayward.told Bloomberg News that, while he was “seriously concerned”, he believed that the “scale is such that you cannot say that the election was stolen”.

1dayatatime · 27/02/2026 22:40

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 22:24

Allegedly.

Do you think that Democracy Volunteers made this up?

If so why would they choose to make false reports for a relatively minor by election rather than the major Presidential elections that they cover?

TheDaysAreGettingLongerAtLast · 27/02/2026 22:38

Wordsmithery · 27/02/2026 08:36

I've voted Green for years and would be delighted if they were successful at the next election. Obviously a Reform win would be highly problematic though. What's your issue with the Green party exactly?

Self-id, men in women only spaces & sports, a snake-oil salesman of a leader who used hypnosis to separate fools from their money with the promise of increasing their bust size, vacuous virtue signalling in place of policies and smug to boot.

KTheGrey · 27/02/2026 22:37

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 22:24

Allegedly.

Being investigated. 😹

I didn’t think the day was going to get better than KS throwing away a safe Labour seat in a bye-election to attempt to safeguard his own position but how wrong I was - it’s the gift that just keeps on giving.

KTheGrey · 27/02/2026 22:34

adlitem · 27/02/2026 12:10

Is it not more Islamophobic to believe that most Muslims support crossing into the country next door and killing 1200 odd civilians including children, kidnapping 250 more and strangling some babies? Just curious as to where the line lies.

~Well, sure, but what does that have to do with anything?

Speaking up against genocide may be seen as a "luxury" by you, I disagree. Anyway people vote for all sorts of reasons and all sorts of things will sway them. It's not really up to me or to you to decide what things people should or shouldn't vote on.

Well what it has to do with anything is that if it is unacceptable to strangle babies then you have to accept that the latest Gaza conflict was provoked by bad people. This conflicts with the narrative of genocide. I notice that you repeat the “genocide” narrative in your reply, without responding to my points about the provocation of that conflict, or that the Gaza genocide narrative does not survive examination. That the war was started
by a terrorist organisation who break all
international rules of war and sacrifice their own civilians is well documented. So while you can call voting on the basis of Gaza “speaking up against genocide” if you like that is because we have freedom of speech, not because it is what those votes or voters are doing.

Bertiebiscuit · 27/02/2026 22:33

Right on sister, me either. Kemi Badenoch is the only Party leader who openly states that men are not women, and that women are entitled to single sex spaces.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 22:24

Bertiebiscuit · 27/02/2026 22:23

Catch up at the back - so called "family voting" aka women being made to vote a certain way by men, is currently being discussed in Parliament as a serious problem, given that it is explicitly against the law for anyone to be "accompanied" into the voting booth. A large proportion of voting centres have seen this in this recent bye election.

Allegedly.

PhaedraWas · 27/02/2026 22:23

LoftyPlumLion · 27/02/2026 19:44

must be nice having a pension pot of a million, no doubt you earnt it with no privilege at all.

I have never inherited anything. I have worked full time all my life. I'm still working.

Why would you need a one million pension pot? Are you planning to live to 120?

What a daft question.

Bertiebiscuit · 27/02/2026 22:23

Catch up at the back - so called "family voting" aka women being made to vote a certain way by men, is currently being discussed in Parliament as a serious problem, given that it is explicitly against the law for anyone to be "accompanied" into the voting booth. A large proportion of voting centres have seen this in this recent bye election.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 22:21

PhaedraWas · 27/02/2026 22:18

Is that an example of the Greens' grasp of economics?

1% of £1.35 million is £13,500, not £3,500.
£3,500 is 1% of £350,000.
1% of £100 =1
1% of £1000=10
1% of £10,000=100
1% of £100,000= 1,000
1% of £1,000,000=10,000

But the first £1 million isn’t taxed. It’s a tax on assets OVER £1 million, ie £350k in your case.

PhaedraWas · 27/02/2026 22:18

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 18:58

I don’t live in Scotland so it’s a matter of indifference to me what parties north of the border choose to do. In any event it’s a tax on assets over £1 million, so £3.5k in your particular case.

Is that an example of the Greens' grasp of economics?

1% of £1.35 million is £13,500, not £3,500.
£3,500 is 1% of £350,000.
1% of £100 =1
1% of £1000=10
1% of £10,000=100
1% of £100,000= 1,000
1% of £1,000,000=10,000

1dayatatime · 27/02/2026 22:15

Leftieinthewild · 27/02/2026 21:52

That statement makes no sense.

The whole point is to investigate an allegation to look for evidence.

Why was it not reported as it was happening so evidence could be gathered? Why wait until there was little possibility of evidence before announcing it to the world? When were the police called?
These are apparently part of official observers so presumably have some training on reporting this crime, so why didn't they?

Anyone can make allegations about pretty much anything after the fact. The evidence makes it more believable. This is just nonsense currently.

Democracy Volunteers are widely regarded as impartial, they are Europe's largest electoral monitoring body and cover elections both in the UK and abroad.

Democracy Volunteers did indeed report incidents of family voting to polling booth officials at the time. What the polling booth officials do with that information is up to them.

Democracy Volunteers did not go public with their concerns about family voting whilst the election was live as they are not legally allowed to, as a neutral observer.

They did go public with the information on family voting as soon as the polls closed and when they were legally allowed to do so.

I find it curious that some posters believe that Democracy Volunteers were biased or had been influenced by one party or another. If Democracy Volunteers were influenced to come out with allegations of electoral irregularities then you would think that they would do it for a more important election for example a Presidential election in France rather than a by election in Manchester.

Bertiebiscuit · 27/02/2026 22:03

Age is not a reliable measure of opinion, believing that it is, that's the very definition of ageism.

Leftieinthewild · 27/02/2026 21:52

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:41

Don’t worry. Investigations won’t be carried out if there’s no proof. However, if there is widespread proof of potential fraud, then surely you’d agree it needs looking into? As it stands, allegations have been made. 🤷‍♀️

That statement makes no sense.

The whole point is to investigate an allegation to look for evidence.

Why was it not reported as it was happening so evidence could be gathered? Why wait until there was little possibility of evidence before announcing it to the world? When were the police called?
These are apparently part of official observers so presumably have some training on reporting this crime, so why didn't they?

Anyone can make allegations about pretty much anything after the fact. The evidence makes it more believable. This is just nonsense currently.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:47

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:45

There have been allegations prompting initial investigations. I genuinely hope there has been no fraud. If no fraud is found, then absolutely nothing to see here, and the result stands. I think we can all agree that’s the outcome we’d like to see - that everything is above board. We don’t want to become a third world voting system which sees a blind eye turned to keep the peace do we ?

Didn’t we do that when voter id that favoured older voters was introduced? State sponsored election fraud.

Bertiebiscuit · 27/02/2026 21:47

Muslims are not a race. Islam is a religion not an ethnicity

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:45

nomas · 27/02/2026 21:39

Do you have any evidence for this bold claim?

Or are you displaying sourness at not getting the result you wanted?

There have been allegations prompting initial investigations. I genuinely hope there has been no fraud. If no fraud is found, then absolutely nothing to see here, and the result stands. I think we can all agree that’s the outcome we’d like to see - that everything is above board. We don’t want to become a third world voting system which sees a blind eye turned to keep the peace do we ?

Underthinker · 27/02/2026 21:45

TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:41

Well, I actually agree with that but my point was that they will have a department dealing with immigration and there will be no open borders.

There would be some rules about who can live and work here, but they seem far less strict than the current ones. So logically we could expect much higher levels of immigration, which is good/bad thing depending on your politics.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:44

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:41

Don’t worry. Investigations won’t be carried out if there’s no proof. However, if there is widespread proof of potential fraud, then surely you’d agree it needs looking into? As it stands, allegations have been made. 🤷‍♀️

If there was proof obviously but there isn’t any. It’s just allegation.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 27/02/2026 21:42

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2026 21:33

The dedicated migration department they propose setting up.

The welcoming committee?

Grin
TopPocketFind · 27/02/2026 21:41

HappyFace2025 · 27/02/2026 21:38

It's not the name. It's why would they get rid of the department that currently deals with immigration and put in another department to deal with immigration.

Well, I actually agree with that but my point was that they will have a department dealing with immigration and there will be no open borders.

Livelovebehappy · 27/02/2026 21:41

Leftieinthewild · 27/02/2026 21:35

Yay, facists following Trumps play book "racism for dummies". If you lose an election, claim it was stolen due to fraud and flood the zone with this narrative.

It really is pathetic.

Don’t worry. Investigations won’t be carried out if there’s no proof. However, if there is widespread proof of potential fraud, then surely you’d agree it needs looking into? As it stands, allegations have been made. 🤷‍♀️