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To start WW3 with my SIL

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Allthewineandallrhedrinks · 27/02/2026 06:30

Long story but I will keep it short.

Me and my husband had decided to stop speaking or engaging with SIL. Mainly because of an incident where my husband said something in a jokey way to my neice and she literally sulked off to another room in my parents house like it was the biggest deal making me feel uncomfortable and she's not even blood related.
I messaged my brother about Easter as we always do stuff all together and I said we need to do it separate this year. He asked why I said because your wife is a toddler sulking off and we don't want to see her again. Hears nothing more from my brother.

So then at my kids school it all gets a bit weird my mum friendship circle start ignoring me and I keep asking whats wrong and they say nothing all fine. But then they are organising meet ups without me which never happens. I normally am one that arranges them. I keep asking what's wrong. Finally find out. My SIL has told one of the mums that she knows through work about my husbands past. He did some bad stuff and was in prison but he did his time and is an amazing person.
Now because of my bitch SIL I am now isolated from my friendship group.

I was willing to not make a big deal and just not speak or see her again but she has made this personal and I cannot let this go.

OP posts:
Delphiniumandlupins · 27/02/2026 20:21

Your mum thought your DH should apologise for his comment to your neice. Perhaps your SiL did overreact but surely it was better that she went to another room than carry on having a row at a family event. She may have disclosed your DH's prison record to be malicious but she didn't say anything untrue. His offence warranted a custodial sentence and if your friends have cut you off because of it they think it's serious too.

TradeMartinworksongNSoul · 27/02/2026 20:20

@ChattyCatty25 Thanks I was on the thread pages ago and wondered if the DH crime had been revealed.
So 27 pages in still not revealed so it must be a bad one.
The sil got it bang on.👍

Kokonimater · 27/02/2026 20:19

You have not given us enough information. But going on What you have said it sounds like you are largely responsible for this problem

illbetheresunorrain · 27/02/2026 20:18

you seem all charmers and princes

Unforgettablefire · 27/02/2026 20:13

MaryMaggot · 27/02/2026 18:36

My mind is going to dark places

So is mine. I think sil has good cause.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 27/02/2026 20:09

echt · 27/02/2026 20:07

I've only read the OP's posts and that's quite enough. Hilarious.

I hope MNHQ don't take this down. They've done it once already this week for an OP who also plainly didn't like the tide of opinion against them.

It should be left up as a cautionary tale to others. Whether they’re like OP, the mother, the SIL or the friends. But MN does seem quite naice on the whole. They’d have kittens if they heard about some people I know.

Sophiehoney · 27/02/2026 20:09

Everyone sucks here. Everyone.

You. Your SIL. Your so called friends. Your brother. Your husband. Everyone. Not one of you sounds like anyone I'd like to spend any time with and frankly, like a bunch of children.

outerspacepotato · 27/02/2026 20:08

Your husband started shit with your niece, you fed it, and SIL finished it.

You obviously underestimated her.

Amazing people apologize when they've made offensive remarks to young girls, not claim to not remember what they said.

echt · 27/02/2026 20:07

I've only read the OP's posts and that's quite enough. Hilarious.

I hope MNHQ don't take this down. They've done it once already this week for an OP who also plainly didn't like the tide of opinion against them.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 27/02/2026 19:59

Thesnailonthewhale · 27/02/2026 19:57

So many people are like "he'd never do it to my /out kids"

As if that's somehow ok...

You can never tell though. Until it happens to you.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 27/02/2026 19:59

diddl · 27/02/2026 18:50

I read all of OP's posts. Her SIL has turned her friend group against her because of something her DH once did. I think most people would be upset about this

Surely they are adults who have made their own decision?

Most mothers of children would back away from a criminal involved with crimes against a child. Indeed most sane people would back away.

Thesnailonthewhale · 27/02/2026 19:57

MaryMaggot · 27/02/2026 19:51

You’d be surprised how many women take the stance that viewing “child porn” is not an actual crime against a child. I could be wildly wrong but the op is giving me this vibe

So many people are like "he'd never do it to my /out kids"

As if that's somehow ok...

Thesnailonthewhale · 27/02/2026 19:56

ZoeCM · 27/02/2026 19:49

The husband was raging at his own mother because she asked him to apologise to his niece... yet he can't remember what he actually said. How can he possibly know his mum and sister-in-law overreacted if he doesn't actually know what he said?

Because he knows what he said.

Thesnailonthewhale · 27/02/2026 19:55

phoenixrosehere · 27/02/2026 18:52

I agree.

DH had a classmate who went to prison for crimes involving a child. It was not sexual. DH pulled up the article for me to read. It was in 2014 and it was physical and emotional abuse of a very young child. It was a very grim read and the man, a former PC was sentenced to 4 years.

Yes there's a few reports of men around 2011/2012 physically abusing kids, like shaking babies to death, neglect of a toddler, one hit a boy of 8 with a Porsche, a dangerous driving death that killed a 5 year old, running a child over and fleeing the scene etc

ScreamingBeans · 27/02/2026 19:55

You're a drama llama.

Your SIL must have been biting her tongue for years.

She probably told the school mums this terrible secret because she's spent a long time putting up with you and your horrible husband and you just went too far this time.

I might be wrong, but that's what it smells like.

MaryMaggot · 27/02/2026 19:51

EatYourDamnPie · 27/02/2026 14:30

I suppose, in a best case scenario the child could’ve been a witness to something, rather than a direct victim. Like him assaulting the child’s mother for example?

Whatever it is, it obviously is a big deal since he not only got a prison sentence, but OP went through great lengths to avoid saying what it is and minimise it.

You’d be surprised how many women take the stance that viewing “child porn” is not an actual crime against a child. I could be wildly wrong but the op is giving me this vibe

Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/02/2026 19:49

DotAndCarryOne2 · 27/02/2026 18:34

I’m far from on OP’s side because I think there’s far more to this than she’s letting on, but I really think that’s a step too far. Rehabilitation in prison isn’t just for paedophiles. Get a grip.

Oh come on. He needed rebilitation, OP very cagey and immediately the mums are all keeping their distance as soon as his crimes are known. It must be something like that or involving a child.

ZoeCM · 27/02/2026 19:49

The husband was raging at his own mother because she asked him to apologise to his niece... yet he can't remember what he actually said. How can he possibly know his mum and sister-in-law overreacted if he doesn't actually know what he said?

MichLBee · 27/02/2026 19:45
  1. Your husband said something inappropriate to your own niece who is a minor and you get offended over it? Yet you don't know what was said, so how can you accuse your SIL of overreacting? Your own mother asked him to apologise so that speaks volumes.
  2. SIL isn't even blood related. Neither is your convict husband to your family so I know who'd I'd be backing in this contest.
  3. Your husband's criminal conviction, and subsequent prison sentence, isn't a private family matter. It is literally public record and must have been bad for him to have been to prison AND for it to be reported in the media. The fact it was involving a child, and the fact you are so embarrassed to disclose it, shows it is bad.
  4. You are very clearly jealous and threatened by your SIL. The way you spit venom about her says more about you. She sounds very successful and should be proud of her achievements but you are so intent to bring her down a peg or 2 by making a mountain over a molehill and trying to turn family against her. Lawyer who sticks up for her child, doesn't vape, does charity work or convicted criminal saying inappropriate things to children. Ask yourself, who would you back if you weren't the wife of said criminal?

You are very deluded and sound like a typical narcissist. I suggest you do some soul searching and offer some since apologies.

This is all of your own doing and I hope this post gets back to SIL so we can get her side.

Icepop79 · 27/02/2026 19:38

BlazenWeights · 27/02/2026 07:15

People go to prison for ALL sorts of things . Why you saying it’s only child related offences and violence. Are you daft or just very daft?

Because the OP literally said it involved a child. That narrows down the likely offence considerably, particularly when it involves a custodial sentence.
So no. Not daft. Just capable of basic literacy.

phoenixrosehere · 27/02/2026 18:52

DotAndCarryOne2 · 27/02/2026 18:34

I’m far from on OP’s side because I think there’s far more to this than she’s letting on, but I really think that’s a step too far. Rehabilitation in prison isn’t just for paedophiles. Get a grip.

I agree.

DH had a classmate who went to prison for crimes involving a child. It was not sexual. DH pulled up the article for me to read. It was in 2014 and it was physical and emotional abuse of a very young child. It was a very grim read and the man, a former PC was sentenced to 4 years.

nomoremsniceperson · 27/02/2026 18:51

DotAndCarryOne2 · 27/02/2026 18:27

Well if you’ve read them you’re clearly not understanding them are you ? OP’s DH was convicted of a crime involving a child and went to jail. He made some sort of comment to SiL’s young DD which SiL took offence to and took herself off into another room rather than cause a row.

OP won’t tell us what DH was convicted of because it ‘looks worse written down’ - yeah right. She also won’t tell us what he said to her niece, or how old her niece actually is. It seems obvious that whatever DH said has made her SiL think twice as to whether he’s actually safe around children.

What you’re interpreting as SiL deliberately and maliciously turning OP’s friends against her is more than likely her voicing her concerns about DH to a mutual friend in the knowledge that it will get back to the school mum group and warn them of a potential risk to their own children. Something that OP should have been upfront about if her friends’ children have been around her DH with no supervision. Bit of critical thinking here - this is an anonymous forum. Why do you think OP hasn’t disclosed any of the details, has done an angry flounce because she isn’t getting the responses she wanted and now wants the thread deleted ?

Edited

Maybe you're right. I skimmed the posts the first time. Will read more closely.

I do understand her not wanting to disclose her DH's conviction as it would v likely be outing, I don't find it particularly suspicious that she's cagey about that tbh.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 27/02/2026 18:51

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 27/02/2026 18:40

His crime involved a child though. So either he’s a sex offender or alternatively I would guess that he was dealing drugs and using children to do so.

Very possibly, but we can only guess, since OP has flounced. I certainly think that if what he did warranted a jail sentence then it must have been serious, but without knowing in what capacity the child was involved we’re in the dark really. I don’t think words like ‘paedophile’ are helpful, especially since OP has said it was nothing sexual, but I agree, it’s clearly something significant.

diddl · 27/02/2026 18:50

I read all of OP's posts. Her SIL has turned her friend group against her because of something her DH once did. I think most people would be upset about this

Surely they are adults who have made their own decision?

Thesnailonthewhale · 27/02/2026 18:43

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 27/02/2026 18:40

His crime involved a child though. So either he’s a sex offender or alternatively I would guess that he was dealing drugs and using children to do so.

Or he may have been violent towards a child.

Or knocked a child over whilst drunk driving