Nearly 1m young people out of work

Brexit again.
I hate the people who voted for it with a passion.

Most people (not all obviously, especially when MH is concerned) will find the drive to work quick enough once their actual livelihood depends on it.

I support having welfare systems in place, they’re absolutely necessary in society, but there also need to be measures in place to prevent people staying at home just because. Unless they’re privately funded by their family, in which case do whatever they want.

So given the cost of living and the cost of rent, you’d happily force people and families onto the streets? You sound like a typical Reform supporter!

I have two cousins aged 17 & 18, both studying, both working part time in B&Q. My niece is a student, also working part time in a bar. There are jobs out there if you put in the effort to get one. When I was a student I got two part time jobs by walking into shops and asking if they had any jobs going. I’m also diagnosed autistic and it was very difficult to do it but I needed money so I had to force myself to do it despite how uncomfortable and stressful it was. Initiative and genuine need to survive seems to have escaped a lot of young people nowadays. They are mollycoddled and have been raised with ridiculously unrealistic expectations about what they should expect from life at the launch stage.

Seriously, I know I've already said it and it's not not going to work for everyone but there are several parents posting on here to describe their hard working and capable young adult children who are struggling to find work.

My daughter has as much work as she wants through her agency alongside university. No, it's not a permanent contract but it's far better than a zero hours contract giving 8 hours a month.

Totally agree. We are the same, it is too expensive to hire young people now, they take too much time to train and aren’t that productive - that was fine when they were cheaper to employ but now it’s just not worth it. I really hate to say it but they also tend to be incredibly needy and almost all the young people we have employed in the last few years have varying levels of mental health problems, which is actually incredibly hard to deal with in a small business.

This is a real thing here and part of the change is that many more older people, who would previously have retired, need jobs.

we live near a tourist attraction and for many many years it was almost a right of passage that all teens in the village either made money by babysitting, delivering newspapers, or working in the tourist attraction. Now the vast majority of part time staff in the tourist place are adults, the bulk of them being 60+ - they’re more flexible because they don’t have school, they don’t disappear off to uni after a couple of summers and there are no working hour restrictions.

My teen is one of the few teenage babysitters left and I firmly believes that is only really a thing because she almost inherited the job from her older sister and so has strong word of mouth. Most babysitters now are nursery staff topping up income (and people understandably aren’t as keen on asking random teens to babysit).

Make sure you have a lot of relevant experience for those apprenticeships. They won't be interested if you don't. They also told my child that they didn't even have any volunteering opportunities for him when he asked for them.
Apprenticeships are basically free money for the companies and so many apply - because they're now open to older people - that companies and orgs like the national trust can pick and choose

Of course they do 🙄

Through work.

Y’know - the service you provide in return for money.

It always was.

When l was young people signed in so they could start a band.

Wham ‘soul on the dole’

From the cases I’ve seen it’s not so much lazy parenting as anxious parenting. Did you see Kelly Bright’s iPlayer documentary? Etta’s mum is a good example. She doesn’t seem like the parent at all - just her daughter’s lackey, practically afraid of her.

You "have" them? Where? The cellar?

You do now though thats the point.

Which is odd as I have many people claiming PIP for adhd/ASD who are able to do literally everything apart from work. I don’t know how the hell they get it but they do.

Yup

Throw in the ubiquitous ASD diagnosis and they're on a railroad to a lifetime of unemployment, depression and dissatisfaction.

If only mum and dad could've pulled their finger out in early childhood and instilled some work ethics and expectations they'd be a completely different kid

Oh God I’m so glad you said it before me. This is absolutely my experience as well. To the extent I’m honestly surprised when I encounter a family not in receipt of DLA as at least one of their children has autism/adhd.

The problem is if you say it on here you just get accused of being a Daily Mail stooge. I wish, wish, I could bring them to work with me for the day. The best thing that could happen is a proper audit of benefits, disability benefits, neurodivergence etc so then we have those unarguable figures that we know should be recorded.

Sending a CV via Indeed isn't applying for a job.

It is if that’s how the employer wants to receive job applications!

You didn't need maths and english GCSE's to get an office job years ago. Many of us started with basic admin / office junior and worked our way up.

You can belive what you want it doesnt mean you get DLA though just becsuse you beleive your child is ND and even if they are it goes off need not diagnosis which YOU should know.

Or part time roles that are looking for someone that is available 24/7 even though they only want you to work 8 hours a week so they won't hire anyone in school or college because they aren't available all of they time. When I was a teenager I walked into a local hotel said hi I'm looking for a job and I was hired straight away and worked weekends and Summer holidays. Now nobody is looking for weekend staff, if you aren't available all day everyday they don't want you.

She could have moved out? Grants were around in the time we’re talking about. Or the dole.

You realise that you can do both?

I work for a large employer in the North West.
We recruit graduates and apprentices every year. We have 100s of agency staff on a temp to perm basis.
We struggle to fill roles.

My experience with teens is completely different to your.

DC in year 2 at uni has several zero hr jobs at a leisure center - lifeguard, swim teacher and manager - over the holidays works there full time, during term time gets a regular 10-15 hrs a week. Only one other uni friend has a job, the others are happy to reply and and dad.

DC in year 12 at college also works zero hours at leisure centre - probably around 7 hrs a week due to chronic fatigue and can't over do it. They are the only one of their friends and college class who have a job. This DC is also completing voluntary work as part of college course, most of the class cannot complete the course because they cannot be bothered to get the volunteer hours.

Family/friends DC don't have/want jobs either as happy for mum/dad to pay.

My DC were told at 16 you needed to work.
At 17 you needed to pay to learn to drive to give better work opportunities.

There are jobs there in my experience. It's about approaching directly, phone calls, emails, knocking on doors if you have too.

Sending a CV via Indeed isn't applying for a job.

Agreed its so frustrating my son has finally got English and Maths functional skills hes currently doing world experience, he will literally take any job going ,hes not lazy but there are so few opportunities.