To think that many Mumsnetters despise regional accents and dialects?

Mersey, actually. And don't get me started on that baahth and graahss nonsense! If it hasn't got an "r" or a "h" after the "a", then it rhymes with "cat" or "bat". End of! 😄

@DrinkFeckArseBrick

"kangaroo ate all the bbq food"

Barbecue the roo. Problem solved.

AIBU? To think that many Mumsnetters despise regional accents and dialects?
Yes.

The threads on pronunciation tend to attract MNers who take offence if their local pronunciation of a word or name is criticised.

Agree OP. There are regular threads about how people hate the word 'mom' and 'santa' and how it's crept in from America when lots of places in the UK use those words.

Also any poster who uses any kind of regional phrase, that whilst other posters might not use but can clearly see what it means in the context of the opening thread, there are always a load of comments along the lines of 'I couldn't possibly answer as I have no idea what you mean because of this one sentence out of 20' and the OP ends up explaining themselves / getting into a debate / apologising for their (common usage regionally) phrasing. Its really annoying.

It's a bit like the posters that seem to have no inkling that if someone is posting in the middle of the night about having a bbq, they are likely not in the uk, and the replies are all along the lines of 'a bbq in this weather / at this time of night, are you mad!' rather than the actual issue at hand (kangaroo ate all the bbq food).

Everyone knows it’s ye not yous

Would that river be the Ribble, perchance? 🤣 I’m also in the North West and I love how accents and dialects can change even between neighbouring towns.

When I lived Down South I found that my lovely Northern tones were often sneered at, and even found myself saying “Barth” instead of “Bath” when out in public just to avoid the contemptuous looks ☹️ I wouldn’t do that now I’m older and dgaf - I’d probably lay it on thicker 🤣

You’re 😜

Also, just because I might internally notice the incorrect grammar, I obviously don’t point it out to people in real life. Except for my own teenagers when they try to use the non existent word ‘yous’ when they mean the plural of ‘you.’

They might to you but don't to me with my Scottish accent.

I would say draw as in Dr-aww.
I would sat drawer as in Dr-orrrr.

I know though that many English accents do not pronounce the R at the end of drawer so say both the same way. Probably why you don't see "Chester Draws" on Scottish Fb pages as the two words don't sound the same.

No you should always hear the -er, when someone says it, so if you don't, they are saying it wrong!
But this an accent thing and isn't as awful as "You was" or "I seen" or similar.

I think it's not the accent or local differences it's what appears to be half illiteracy eg chest of draws, spelling etc.

I'm of an age where you spoke colloquially with your family and friends but "properly" in public and that included writing.

I couldn't care less about accents personally so long as I can understand people, and that can be a big problem sometimes.

Draw & drawer do sound identical don’t they?

Not sure I’ve heard either pronounced differently 😁.

Good for you. It really annoys me so I will express my opinion, just as you are being vocal abput expressing your opinion to me!

Another reason for me is as an ND person, I firmly believe the communication issues we are supposed to have, are actually the fault of NT people for not using language clearly and precisely enough for us. So I suppose that is why it annoys me so much.

You can be annoyed by it all you like, but you also said there is 'never an excuse [...] Ever' and that it isn't 'acceptable'. That's very different from finding something a bit annoying. Being annoyed by something doesn't mean you set the benchmark for what's excusable or acceptable.

I write and edit for a living. From that perspective there are a few things in your posts that I'd flag as poor writing, and which I'd edit or rewrite in my professional capacity. But I certainly wouldn't say there's 'never an excuse' to write like that in a web forum like Mumsnet, or on social media because - newsflash! - in this context it simply doesn't matter provided your meaning's broadly clear.

That’s the point I was making. Something which is incorrect if you were brought up with RP as your standard might not be if you weren’t.

I love regional accents even if i sometimes struggle to understand them all. I'm northern and my children are southern.(i sound like im in Coronation street and my daughter sounds like the late Queen Elizabeth) my daughter came home from school (reception) and said theres a boy in my class who speaks like you mummy, he's having electrocution lessons .......

Yes I did know what she meant and I have the right to be annoyed about her usage of English, which I clearly explained through examples of what I don't like.

Why is it a problem for you to be so annoyed with that, eh? 🤔

Yes, I'm continually pointing out things on here, which are confidently pronounced to be 'wrong' by posters who may not have ventured 20 miles from where they grew up, are standard Hiberno-English. Correct, but by a standard that isn't yours.

Bloody hell I bet your popular at parties 🤣

Funnily enough, my natural SE home counties accent was constantly derided, "corrected" and laughed at by a man from Yorkshire (friend of my ex). The Yorkshire accent was the only way to speak, according to him. Midlands accents got a pass though, as they were "Yorkshire lite", but heavens forbid anyone dared gave a Southern (south East, in teality) accent in his esteemed presence! It honestly made me hate Yorkshire people for a long time, as I thought they were all going to be cold, pedantic boors.

Thankfully, after splitting with the now ex, I don't have to deal with that twat any more, and have mellowed towards Yorkshire folk. The accent still makes me twinge internally when I hear it though, but that's probably a relic of the past trauma I suffered at the hands of the biggest Yorkshire twat to ever tread the earth (or at least, Leicester!).

Haitch might be incorrect in RP, but it’s the standard pronunciation elsewhere (eg Ireland). What I don’t like is that even when this is explained, posters often persist in labelling haitch as ‘incorrect’ and won’t accept that there are different English standards elsewhere.

I think they’re basically saying that their English is superior to the other persons then. That’s what they truly believe I think 🤷‍♀️

Indeed. When the OP says "accent" I think she really means dialect.

I have a Yorkshire accent and occasionally, when speaking to family, will find myself using dialectic speech (the glottal t' instead of the, for example).

But I always write in standard English - we were all taught to do this at school and it's correct and appropriate to do so.

"There are a lot of MN posters who think their way is the right way and anything else is wrong"

I don't think a truer sentence has ever been spoken!

Why is this a problem for you? What impact is it having on your life beyond alerting you to the fact that not everyone expresses themselves in the same way that you do? You understood what your beautician meant, I assume.

Absolutely YANBU.

As someone with a strong regional accent and a degree in English and Linguistics, I'm regularly stunned by the sheer ignorance of Mumsnetters about accents, dialects and what constitutes 'correct' in English.

I regularly see posts on here where people confidently make negative statements about accents and dialects, thinking they're being terribly clever and educated, when in fact they know absolutely jack-shit about language and how accents and dialects actually work.

It's particularly noticeable that the accents that Mumsnet seems to most despise are the ones they most associate with working class urban communities. Rural accents often seem to get a pass, presumably because people associate them with living in nice villages full of people with farmhouse kitchens and jolly Labradors and hearty children who wear wellies all the time, but woe betide anyone whose accent suggests they're from London, Manchester, Birmingham, or Liverpool. Same with Scotland - a gentle Highland lilt seems to go down well, but not Glaswegian.

It's all class bias, basically. I've never seen as much class snobbery on any other forum as I've seen on Mumsnet. It's particularly notable when it's women who claim very vehemently to be feminists, but cannot wait to rip other women to shreds if they perceive them to fall into the category of A Bit Common.