To think that many Mumsnetters despise regional accents and dialects?

@MasterBeth , what is a standard southern English accent?

In a non-rhotic accent I'd say draw-uh, the uh being short.
In a rhotic accent I'd say draw-(uh)r.

IPA pronunciations. draw is drɔː, drawer is drɔːr.

You must have a very different standard southern accent to mine - it’s definitely a single syllable in my accent (unless you are talking about the person doing the drawing, which would be two syllables - but the drawer you put your clothes in is one)

I have a standard Southern accent and definitely pronounce the second syllable in drawer.

How would you pronounce drawer if you were using in as a description of the person who created that drawing? The drawer?

People aren't ascertaining accents by how they type!

Previous threads have been about accents.

Got to be honest, I don’t much like threads about accent because they get so unpleasant so often. Sometimes because people are unpleasant about a specific (non standard southern) accent, sometimes because people are unpleasant about the standard southern accent.

@Jlom I occasionally correct a poster's grammar but only if it affects how the post reads. I don't do it because I think I'm clever or because I like to feel smug and superior.

If the post is in Pedants' corner then it's open to scrutiny.

This thread is about regional accents not grammar.

Why would you post that?

Nope.

I have a standard southern English accent and pronounce draw and drawer the same.

It’s not terribly shocking to find some accents hard on the ear, or irritating. Behaving badly towards those people would be prejudiced, but to prefer some accents over others is not. It’s the same mechanism whether you particularly like the sound of an accent or particularly dislike one. I dislike certain northern Irish accents because I associate them with angry voices on the radio in my childhood. They make me a little anxious. I may have misremembered, but was it Ian Paisley who used to rant angrily at length on the radio?

That's my pet hate. It's not the accent it's the butchering of the language.

I don't think this is not limited to Mumsnetters.

I did a German language course at the Goethe institute in Munich once and the teacher (a middle-class woman in her fifties) corrected me in a very condescending manner in front of the entire class when I used the dative instead of the genitive in a common phrase. She told me it was "schlechtes Deutsch" / bad German instead of pointing out it was colloquial German from the north of Germany where I had lived in the past.

The reality is that the genitive case is declining in Germany just as the Saxon genitive died out in English a long time ago. Language is constantly changing.

It may make you feel better to know that Hiberno-English is one of the closest modern dialects to Shakespearean English.

I went to an unposh southern university and I was often asked to swear because people thought it sounded funny in a posh accent. I obliged them by telling them to fuck off which satisfied them and me.

I’ve miss typed- I say one and won the same, to rhyme with fun. He says one to rhyme with on. We’ve just checked! 😆

Some people think they are clever when they police other people's grammar and like to feel smug and superior. I don't think they despise anyone but perhaps they aren't very open minded.

When I went to (a posh) university with my northern accent I had the piss taken out of me morning noon and night, in a largely good humoured, banter type way. I’m ashamed to say that I deliberately started to take the edge off the way a spoke and made a conscious effort to speak “properly”. Now you’d probably be able to identify I wasn’t from the south but my accent has changed significantly.

I’m Irish myself and I have to say I’ve never experienced this. It seems sensible to just use plain English when talking on this forum. How would anyone even know what accent you have ? I don’t really know what you are talking about

Wtf?

I have an accent. But I doubt anyone would know what it was from how I type?

Thanks! I’m sixty and never heard that! Feeling very provincial mouse here!

@simpledeer , one rhymes with on when I say it.

One to rhyme with gone.

How are people pronouncing “one” if it doesn’t rhyme with Bun?

Not saying you’re wrong but I don’t think I have ever heard it pronounced differently than that.

Quite. In Scotland it’s called guising because you are disguised. You do your “trick” - same sense as party trick - then get sweets/a treat..

I like a lot of accents but there are two I cannot listen to , Scouse and South African .

@binnibonnieboo How do Mumsnetters determine regional accents through the written word? Are you confusing it with bad spelling or grammar. I know people get pulled up for the misuse of "myself" for example (which isn't regional, it's a modern and incorrect trend). Or posters who say "we was sat in the car" which again isn't regional, it's just wrong. Other than that, how can they possibly tell which way you pronounce scarf or bath or whatever?