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FlappicusSmith · 25/02/2026 22:54

I accepted a job at a salary of X amount. Received and signed contract, which says £X salary for '36 hours p/w (full time)'.

I just got my first payslip and my gross monthly pay is less than I was expecting. i.e. it is less than 'X divided by 12'. Some ChatGPT'ing has revealed that apparently in this sector it's 'normal' to quote 'spine' salaries based on a 37hr week and that my paid salary reflects that my contract is for 36hrs.

At no point was this communicated to me. My contract says 'full time'. Nowhere does it say anything about that being pro-rata. Neither was it communicated during the offer/ negotiation/ acceptance stage.

Has anyone come across this before? In my many, many years of working I have never heard of this and I'm really miffed!

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Robertplantgoddess · 18/03/2026 21:13

Blushingm · 26/02/2026 18:38

NHS don’t have spine points

They do. Or at least they did in all the 39years I was there.
Banding and I know it changed before I left to only 3 (?) Pay points per band but the same idea.
As someone above said there were all sorts of full time hours but the basis was 37.5 hours and adjusted accordingly.

titchy · 18/03/2026 21:03

I suspect she did and they pointed out she hadn’t worked a full month (started on 2 Feb) so wasn’t going to get paid for a full month….

pouletvous · 18/03/2026 20:41

just ask the payroll team ffs

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Jaffalemons · 26/02/2026 21:16

FlappicusSmith · 25/02/2026 23:14

You don't think I should annoy HR when my actual salary is materially less than I was led to believe it would be? While it's a low percentage difference, it's actually a not insignificant amount over the year...

I mean, they've fucking annoyed me. I think this is willfully non-transparent.

I agree. Your contract and your pay should match.

Whatinthedoopla · 26/02/2026 20:21

Just ask for a breakdown on how your salary was calculated ......

Paprikapringles · 26/02/2026 20:15

Blushingm · 26/02/2026 18:38

NHS don’t have spine points

They do, each band has spine points/ progressive points however you want to phrase it, usually 3 per band; the bottom, mid point after 2 years, top of band after 5 years. Except band 2 which is a flat band - pretty much inline with NMW

Whyherewego · 26/02/2026 19:15

CorporealCarrot · 26/02/2026 19:06

This sounds like exactly what has happened but ao weird they didn't make it clear. How would anyone outside the NHS ever understand the system? If I got a contract with a salary which stated that 36 hours was full time I'd fully expect the full salary for 36 hours.

Because when you are offered a job on for example NHS Agenda for Change terms, you are referred to the AfC General terms on top of the local employment contract and these are non negotiable and umpteen pages long so it will be in there somewhere. Agreed hard to know if you're new to the NHS but it won't typically be spelled out as so many people just move around so the HR teams can't be working out who knows what. They just say refer to AfC national terms

Ohyeahitsme · 26/02/2026 19:12

Got my first paycheck of my new job today and it's the first time it's ever been right on the first go. I'm so used to it being cocked up I was expecting it.

Hopefully just a cock up for you

CorporealCarrot · 26/02/2026 19:06

Paprikapringles · 26/02/2026 18:15

If its an NHS role 37.5 and 36 hours are both classed as full time, many opt for 36 hours as you don’t do a make up shift every 8 weeks for the 1.5 hours, however there is then a reduction in pay.

The salary and spine point would be advertised at the standard for that band FT 37.5 hours but then reduced accordingly for hours.

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This sounds like exactly what has happened but ao weird they didn't make it clear. How would anyone outside the NHS ever understand the system? If I got a contract with a salary which stated that 36 hours was full time I'd fully expect the full salary for 36 hours.

MrsChristmasHasResigned · 26/02/2026 19:02

HR massively messed up my salary when I started my job last year. Took a month to sort it out.

Blushingm · 26/02/2026 18:38

Kiwi09 · 25/02/2026 23:46

Is it an NHS role?

NHS don’t have spine points

Paprikapringles · 26/02/2026 18:15

If its an NHS role 37.5 and 36 hours are both classed as full time, many opt for 36 hours as you don’t do a make up shift every 8 weeks for the 1.5 hours, however there is then a reduction in pay.

The salary and spine point would be advertised at the standard for that band FT 37.5 hours but then reduced accordingly for hours.

AlexisP90 · 26/02/2026 18:13

ConstanzeMozart · 26/02/2026 11:36

I've heard it all now.
It's 'annoying' to talk to HR to clarify a point about your salary?
Some women have really swallowed the misogyny pills when it comes to standing up for themselves.

Agree! What should we do stay quiet and be grateful we got the vote?!

No fucking way. I dont know if OP is male or female or otherwise but every single person should "annoy" HR the very moment they have a query about their pay or workplace.

topcat2014 · 26/02/2026 12:35

If you've worked all available working days in the month I would not be expecting a reduction just because it's February

UpDownAllAround1 · 26/02/2026 11:54

ConstanzeMozart · 26/02/2026 11:36

I've heard it all now.
It's 'annoying' to talk to HR to clarify a point about your salary?
Some women have really swallowed the misogyny pills when it comes to standing up for themselves.

No you talk to payroll is what I meant. Probation period passing has to be a priority and pay will catch up in March

ConstanzeMozart · 26/02/2026 11:36

UpDownAllAround1 · 25/02/2026 23:10

Don’t annoy HR if you are in a probation period. Seems minimal impact really

I've heard it all now.
It's 'annoying' to talk to HR to clarify a point about your salary?
Some women have really swallowed the misogyny pills when it comes to standing up for themselves.

FlappicusSmith · 26/02/2026 10:36

Ace56 · 26/02/2026 08:45

It’ll be because you started on presumably Monday 2nd Feb (you still haven’t answered when your start date was), so have lost a day’s pay. Usually the first month’s pay at a new job is a bit lower for this reason.

I hope you're right!

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Ace56 · 26/02/2026 08:45

It’ll be because you started on presumably Monday 2nd Feb (you still haven’t answered when your start date was), so have lost a day’s pay. Usually the first month’s pay at a new job is a bit lower for this reason.

Bunnycat101 · 26/02/2026 08:36

i’d guess it was due to a start date. I’ve been screwed by this a few times. Eg I’ve started on the 3rd of the month and worked every working day that month but because it was determined by calendar days I lost the equivalent of 2/31 days of pay.

Viviennemary · 26/02/2026 08:15

I think its more likely to do with your starting date. How much was your pay short? I absolutely wouldn't go in with all guns blazing. Just ask payroll. If a salary was on my contract thats what I'd expect to be paid unless it went on to mention that it would be pro rata and gavd the pro rata salary.

burnoutbabe · 26/02/2026 08:13

it will be the first month thing.

you joined on 2nd so payroll prorated the pay for first (and last months) as annual salary /262 by number of days you worked.

so 20/262 in February. If it was January 2nd it would be 22/262 ish.

Beesandhoney123 · 26/02/2026 08:07

Anyone in payroll will be pleased if you query. They might have been given the wrong information. They will be happy to explain or put it right.

It won't annoy anyone. What would annoy payroll is your not contacting them to ask , but talking about it to everyone else. Get your line manager to ask, or if you can ask the right person in payroll.

CallMeEvelyn · 26/02/2026 08:04

And that's correct to say they'd need to up your agreed salary accordingly if they want you to work 37 hrs (and you agree).

CallMeEvelyn · 26/02/2026 08:02

Seelybe · 26/02/2026 07:56

@FlappicusSmith I think this could be read as an explanation of the 36/37 you've been paid.
If the spinal point is the industry standard also 37 hours, but full time for this job is 36 hours that is the calculation. The two factors aren't directly connected in the contract but very misleading if so.
The real issue is that not being explained to you before you accepted the job.
Unless this is a well known variation in your line of work I think you'd have strong grounds to challenge and agree a solution that gives you the gross salary you expected.

That's a load of waffle sorry. The contract clearly states salary X for 36 hours (FT) per OP's post. This is how she should be paid. FT salary for FT hours, 36.

diddlrydeedoo · 26/02/2026 07:59

You said you’ve queried it with HR, have they replied?
If your contract says x salary for a 36hr week then you’ll get x salary for a 36hr week. There’s no pro-rata for mythical 37hr week, whatever Chat GPT says.

What does your payslip say? All the info you need should (hopefully) be in there. I know mine details yearly salary, hourly salary, hours worked and all deductions.