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Appleday11 · 24/02/2026 19:50

I moved to England to work last year. I'm Irish.

When I arrived at my workplace, one of my colleagues said "Ah you are Irish, this is a nice city, there is a Catholic church down the road that you can go to".

I think she was trying to be helpful but I thought it was quite bizarre. I'm not Catholic and I told her so.

Second time - I was out in the pub with a mixed group of people. Some of them I had never met before. One man said "ah you're Irish, you're a Catholic!" I told him Im not.

Third time- I was at another group. A woman said to me "you are Irish. Ah so you like such and such. And you are a Catholic". I told her I am not.

I found it strange as I have never really thought about religiom. Do some people here think that all Irish people are Catholics? My family were not religious at all and I was never brought up any religion

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Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:41

GarlicBound · 25/02/2026 02:37

You've also mentioned your Portuguese friend and a few others. I was thinking that being non-religious seems to be quite a strong feature of your personal identity - hence your annoyance at the incorrect assumption.

That in itself would be quite unusual in England, we don't care because we aren't pushing against anything.

I think its just irritating for anyone - to be assumed to be something that has nothing to do with them.

What if I said to you Garlicbound. "Ah you are obviously a Muslim. There's a nice little Mosque down the road that you can go to"

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Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:39

GarlicBound · 25/02/2026 02:37

You've also mentioned your Portuguese friend and a few others. I was thinking that being non-religious seems to be quite a strong feature of your personal identity - hence your annoyance at the incorrect assumption.

That in itself would be quite unusual in England, we don't care because we aren't pushing against anything.

The friend in school IS the Portuguese friend.

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GarlicBound · 25/02/2026 02:37

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:31

I have zero interest in religion. My replies were to people who said when I was child in Ireland, that most people would have been Catholics.

I replied that my best friend in school in Ireland was non religious. I obviously knew this as we skipped religion class and had extra study together

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You've also mentioned your Portuguese friend and a few others. I was thinking that being non-religious seems to be quite a strong feature of your personal identity - hence your annoyance at the incorrect assumption.

That in itself would be quite unusual in England, we don't care because we aren't pushing against anything.

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:36

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:33

Most people affiliate with Catholicism in Ireland now not just in the past.

Not true. A rapidly declining percentage of people identify as Catholic in Ireland. Especially amongst younger people.
If i ever go back to visit ireland , not one person that I know ever mentions Catholicism, no one goes to Catholic church.

The only people that i know that go to church are some people in my town who are in their 70s.

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Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:35

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Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:33

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:31

I have zero interest in religion. My replies were to people who said when I was child in Ireland, that most people would have been Catholics.

I replied that my best friend in school in Ireland was non religious. I obviously knew this as we skipped religion class and had extra study together

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Most people affiliate with Catholicism in Ireland now not just in the past.

sashh · 25/02/2026 02:33

Jrisix · 24/02/2026 21:30

That's weird. I might assume but I wouldn't say anything. We were raised on Father Ted in the 90s though so that's probably my main window into Irish culture, and I'm sure things have moved on...

I worked in Pakistan for a while and everyone assumed I was a Christian because I'm white. I'm not a Christian but I was raised in a culturally Christian environment so I suppose it made sense.

The church my dad attended has a fair sized group of parishioners of Pakistani descent.

No one expects RC Pakistanis.

TheOchreJoker · 25/02/2026 02:33

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 00:58

Yes, I agree I have an Irish colleague who was explaining Catholic funerals in Ireland to me as it is totally different process and much more religious.

I don't think you understand just how differently religion is viewed in Ireland compared to England.

For example on paper I tick the 'Christian' box, reason being is my family had me baptised in order to help secure a school place as that's what was done back then and once you're written into the Catholic registry that's where you stay for life so I'm on record as a Christian despite never actually being one.
Many (if not a majority) of Irish are 'paper Christians'(Catholic/Protestant/other on paper only), which heavily skews statistics. I know very few people of any background who actually believe in a god/gods or religious doctrine.
Despite neither believing or practicing a religion many Irish still tick (Christian) on forms, census and have church weddings/funerals out of cultural habit/convenience/aesthetic etc.. rather than any genuine religious conviction.

We appear religious to people on the outside looking in who don't understand our cultural nuance but reality is for all the religious iconography and churches we have their attendance is very sparse and far less than UK, we're at the point foreign missionaries are coming here trying to convert people as a result and our priests are dying out with no replacements which few people seem to care about either.

Like your work colleague I could give you a detailed description of Irish funeral rites and customs, I could word for word recite the prayers and blessings in both Gaeilge, English and partial Latin, you'd also likely see and hear me make religious references/sayings day to day yet I don't believe in any of it. It would simply be out of habit and while Irish people would be able to tell I'm not religious an English person would likely mistake me for very religious.

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:31

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:27

Its actually weird and ignorant of you thst you keep writing that i couldnt possibly have experienced abuse in England.

My muslim colleague told me that he is regulary told to fu.ck off home in England.he was spat at last week.

I wouldnt be so ignorant as t[ say to him

"some kids attend anti racism classes in England, so that couldn't possibly have happened to you"

I'm not suggesting that because of course the right wing press are whipping up hre division over people with perceived Muslim heritage but usually that is accompanied with a racism based upon skin colour. As you probably know it is pretty bad in Ireland for this kind of racism. The idea that kids would know enough about the history of Ireland, from hearing your accent but seeing you are white (?) and dish out a load of racism is truly surprising.

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:31

GarlicBound · 25/02/2026 02:29

Even so, you seem to have a livelier interest in religion than most English do. You've mentioned four or five people you know, maybe more, with the religion of their families and whether they were baptised or raised without religion.

I have zero clue about the religious backgrounds or affiliations of anybody I know in real life, with the exception of a few observant Jews and one Muslim (because she was fasting when we met).

I have zero interest in religion. My replies were to people who said when I was child in Ireland, that most people would have been Catholics.

I replied that my best friend in school in Ireland was non religious. I obviously knew this as we skipped religion class and had extra study together

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Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:29

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:27

How do you know? To me this completely alien, I work with all different nationalities, including Spanish, Germans, Swedish, Dutch, we have world food days, we go to the pub together. I have family and friends from all of the Scandinavian countries, I just don't see this hostility at all, it reads like hyperbolic gutter press headlines, that like to whip up division, for what end, well who knows.

It's not really a surprise that people don't want to come to the UK, there isn't exactly a bouyant economy at the moment!

How can racism in England possibly be alien to you. Look it up.online.

A quicl google search will show you a huge amount of racist incidents that happened in the Uk. It will also show you a huge amount of marches against immigrants coming to the UK.

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GarlicBound · 25/02/2026 02:29

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 01:45

Yeah I remember when I was in Ireland it was more Catholic than it is now. My mother decided to not make me Catholic. Actually now i think of it, my mother asked me at age 7 if i wanted to be Catholic. She asked me because some of my classmates at that age were making their Catholic communion at age 7. I could have beem christened and then communed at that age.

I said no. My teachers didnt care that I said no. My Local church didnt care. We had freedom to choose.

There was definitely a bit societal pressure to be Catholic just to fit in. But we did have freedom to choose.

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Even so, you seem to have a livelier interest in religion than most English do. You've mentioned four or five people you know, maybe more, with the religion of their families and whether they were baptised or raised without religion.

I have zero clue about the religious backgrounds or affiliations of anybody I know in real life, with the exception of a few observant Jews and one Muslim (because she was fasting when we met).

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:27

Catlady007007 · 25/02/2026 02:19

Yes mutual in France. The perception of the UK is not high in Spain, Germany, France - obviously Brexit has not helped.

According to Ipsos.
The UK achieves the lowest rank for attractiveness among young people in Ireland (twelfth), and highest in Kenya, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, South Africa and Ukraine, where it ranks in first place.

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How do you know? To me this completely alien, I work with all different nationalities, including Spanish, Germans, Swedish, Dutch, we have world food days, we go to the pub together. I have family and friends from all of the Scandinavian countries, I just don't see this hostility at all, it reads like hyperbolic gutter press headlines, that like to whip up division, for what end, well who knows.

It's not really a surprise that people don't want to come to the UK, there isn't exactly a bouyant economy at the moment!

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:27

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:21

Kids have anti racism classes. So you live in an area of England were English kids know enough about Irish history to be racist towards you?

Its actually weird and ignorant of you thst you keep writing that i couldnt possibly have experienced abuse in England.

My muslim colleague told me that he is regulary told to fu.ck off home in England.he was spat at last week.

I wouldnt be so ignorant as t[ say to him

"some kids attend anti racism classes in England, so that couldn't possibly have happened to you"

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Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:23

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:21

Kids have anti racism classes. So you live in an area of England were English kids know enough about Irish history to be racist towards you?

You are not following.

As I've already written, it was never young people who abused me in England, it was always older people.

Old people exist in England you know, why are you constantly focusing on young people.

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Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:21

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:12

Instead of me "accepting it", maybe the racists could be taught to change. They meed anti racism classes in schools here.

Kids have anti racism classes. So you live in an area of England were English kids know enough about Irish history to be racist towards you?

Catlady007007 · 25/02/2026 02:19

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:11

I think that is a mutual exchange. Is it that bad still.

It just isn't the case that the British are perceived in this way by all of Europe. I have family and friends from most Northern European countries and it just isn't the perception at all - sorry to disappoint!

Yes mutual in France. The perception of the UK is not high in Spain, Germany, France - obviously Brexit has not helped.

According to Ipsos.
The UK achieves the lowest rank for attractiveness among young people in Ireland (twelfth), and highest in Kenya, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, South Africa and Ukraine, where it ranks in first place.

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:18

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:13

Have those family and friends from North Europe ever lived in the UK?

Yes, three currently. Why?

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:18

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:02

But didnt you write that you are very surprised that any Irish people would receive abuse in England,

even after our historial conflict?

I said that the abuse I receive in England is definitely due to the Historical conflict. I pointed out that I revceive no abuse in countries where there has been no conflict. I only ever receive abuse in England.

Yes, I am surprised but I obviously don't live in the kind of areas where people are shocked to hear a different accent or to live amongst people that look and sound the same as me.

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:13

Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:11

I think that is a mutual exchange. Is it that bad still.

It just isn't the case that the British are perceived in this way by all of Europe. I have family and friends from most Northern European countries and it just isn't the perception at all - sorry to disappoint!

Have those family and friends from North Europe ever lived in the UK?

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Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:12

Catlady007007 · 25/02/2026 02:05

The UK are quite hostile towards the French too.
It isn't just reserved for the Irish.

Ultimately you have chosen to live in a country where this is not uncommon. You aren't going to educate a nation so you have to either accept it or remain bemused by it.

Instead of me "accepting it", maybe the racists could be taught to change. They meed anti racism classes in schools here.

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Goldenbear · 25/02/2026 02:11

Catlady007007 · 25/02/2026 02:05

The UK are quite hostile towards the French too.
It isn't just reserved for the Irish.

Ultimately you have chosen to live in a country where this is not uncommon. You aren't going to educate a nation so you have to either accept it or remain bemused by it.

I think that is a mutual exchange. Is it that bad still.

It just isn't the case that the British are perceived in this way by all of Europe. I have family and friends from most Northern European countries and it just isn't the perception at all - sorry to disappoint!

Appleday11 · 25/02/2026 02:07

Catlady007007 · 25/02/2026 02:05

The UK are quite hostile towards the French too.
It isn't just reserved for the Irish.

Ultimately you have chosen to live in a country where this is not uncommon. You aren't going to educate a nation so you have to either accept it or remain bemused by it.

Weird attititude. I don't have to accept abuse actually.

Rscism and ignorance is changed by people standing up against it. Do you ever stand up against racism?

I saw an Asian woman being racially abused once. I intervened and told them to stop

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Carla786 · 25/02/2026 02:07

Catlady007007 · 25/02/2026 02:05

The UK are quite hostile towards the French too.
It isn't just reserved for the Irish.

Ultimately you have chosen to live in a country where this is not uncommon. You aren't going to educate a nation so you have to either accept it or remain bemused by it.

I don't think a French person would meet abuse in the same way, or less likely to. Largely because the Napoleonic Wars were back in the 1810s and even then, France, was a feared adversary rather than a dehumanised colonial subject.

Catlady007007 · 25/02/2026 02:05

The UK are quite hostile towards the French too.
It isn't just reserved for the Irish.

Ultimately you have chosen to live in a country where this is not uncommon. You aren't going to educate a nation so you have to either accept it or remain bemused by it.