Cristopher Colombia in primary school curriculum

I agree, but have you heard of Amerigo Vespucci and Norse people arriving there? Columbus never set foot in north America.

I don’t think there’s any hatred, but the prejudice from a minority of people certainly got tiresome in my years living in England. Only a minority, but you never knew when it would rear its ugly head.

But at least he knows what a woman is.

[Sarcasm]

The BBC bitesize y1 content was shared on the first page of this thread and shows that OPs concerns are covered in the way it is taught (although it skips the rape obviously).

Definitely no need to go in 'all guns blazing', but you could email in to say you've seen the BBC bitesize content and it was a relief as due to your heritage it had been a shock to see him on the curriculum list. And offer your help should they want to have the kids speak to you or write you questions! When I taught that age group we loved having people with relevant expertise to draw from- made the learning much more engaging.

Not just male humans.

@DeftWasp
He IS significant because he "discovered" the Americas, albeit somewhat accidentally.

He didn't, though, did he? Otherwise there would have been no-one there to colonise. His expeditions were significant, but they should not be referred to as discoveries. They were conquests.

True. Male humans.

Also did you see Trump and the US male hockey team, laughing at inviting the women's hockey team to a Celebration

Slight correction:

Male humans.

But, yes. Almost no-one comes out of history well.

I would definitely want my y1 child to be taught about rape and genocide.

He IS significant because he "discovered" the Americas, albeit somewhat accidentally.

Arguments about rape, pillage, slave trade, pestilence are all moot, as its history, its gone and standards were different at the time.

People need to learn history, and they need to learn that good AND bad things happened, and that many people from history, just like those of us living today, are complex, didn't get everything right, may have done good AND bad.

All History in summary

Humans are power driven dickheads who love stealing land.

I can see why a lot of Irish people are still angry about it. The UK government should give an apolpgy. It would really help people to heal and move forward

The Queen muttered something about our troubled history when she came to Ireland, but there was no apology.

Im tired of all the hatred between Ireland and England, but I can see how Irish people feel they cant heal and move on until they get some recognition and apology

Absolutely ask school about content and ask them to ensure a balanced account. YANBU .

Good luck with that 🤣🤣

As my family were from Cork, on my mother's side, that might give you a clue.

History is full of stories of ordinary people suffering through invasion and war-not just separate societies who were colonised. In Europe, people were enslaved through serfdom, they were deliberately starved and driven out of their homes for political reasons. They were slaughtered by the thousand to teach others a lesson. Yet we treat these great battles and deeds as something heroic-look at how Henry V is lauded. At least with colonialism, the effects on ordinary people at the time are discussed in detail. It has been for years-my kids were taught that Columbus was a bad guy by modern standards. Not so much the people living in home countries who suffered at the hands of their ‘betters’. But also, people on those times lived by totally different values and mores than we do today.

Yes we have said many times who started it.

What are your thoughts on the UK refusing to give independence to Ireland last century - causing many deaths. Then also refusing to give Northern Ireland back, causing many many more deaths.

This is all quite recent

That’s low

See my most recent post. To avoid any ambiguity. I clarified that I'm specifically talking about last century. When the UK was abusing Ireland, stealing land and plunging people into poverty.

Ireland wanted independence, the UK wouldnt give them it. Uk sent the uk soldiers who killed and raped many people. Ireland had to fight for independence during which many people were killed.

Uk refused to give all of ireland back, the Uk wanted to keep northern ireland.
This refusing to give northern ireland back - resulted in a lot more deaths, caused the irish civil war, and also the long troubles in Northern Ireland.

If we are going to be accurate the Normans were responsible for invading Ireland, which started the occupation. The monarch etc were Normans not Anglo Saxon, most Anglo Saxons were not thrilled with losing their lands etc. And subsequent kings often thought of themselves as being French not English.
Just for information, many people of my age were taught Irish history in British schools as it was part of the United Kingdom or a colony for so long.

The Irish Question is quite a specific thing in British history, any connection to Hitler would only be if that was a particular phrasing that was commonly used in politics at that time.

Ive seen other people on here before say that the Ireland module is optional.

Right lets look specifically at last century. The UK was definitely called the UK then.

The UK had total control over Ireland. The UK abused Irish people. Most famously , the UK stole land off the Irish land owners and then rented this land back to these people for huge rent that people could not afford.

People in Ireland were desperately poor. The UK also hit and beat anyone that spoke the Irish language. This wiped the Irish language nearly entirely out of the country and is why they speak English there now.

It wss terrible conditions. Ireland wanted independence from the UK. The UK wouldnt give it. The UK sent over lots of black and tan soldiers to Ireland. These soldiers were notoriously brutal. My mother said that her Irish father told her about them. He said that these soldiers would drive around and just pick young girls to rape.

Ireland then had to fight for independence in a terrible fight where lots of people were killed. The leaders of the rise for independence -were all killed by the UK. After some time, The UK then eventually agreed to give back part of Ireland but not all. The UK kept Northern Ireland.This caused the Irish civil war and the Northern ireland troubles. The UK has definitely caused a huge amount of problems in Ireland.

You'd be wrong then. Y9 history at my school is almost entirely that.