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Holiday dilemma - SEN children and PIL

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Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:01

I want to caveat this by saying my PIL (particularly MIL) are the dream in-laws. We get on well. They love our children (who in turn adore them) and they treat us all well.

We are local, see them multiple times a week as they do some childcare (which is entirely their choice) and we all rub along nicely and have done so for 20 years.

Our two DS (13 & 8) have ASD - the older is more able and educationally at expected levels, very outgoing and very personable. The youngest is non-verbal and like a rhino mixed with a wrecking ball. He is joyful and lovely and we all adore him but he is Hard Work.

Ok - the issue,

MIL is 80 next year and wants to take us all away. The type of holiday she likes will be a nightmare for us. They like walks, sightseeing, churches, museums etc. Older DS would love this. Younger would get zero out of this and be very difficult to manage. They like period properties with lovely surroundings. Absolute nightmare for the baby rhino to smash and use as a ball.

DH told her that it’s not something we can do and she is upset. Because we had a successful holiday abroad last year (our first one) she thinks it’s all systems go. Our holiday last year was to Ibiza to an AI which served beige food for the kids and had modern minimalist rooms, lots of pools and very few items that could be destroyed by DSR (Dear Son Rhino).

I have told her I’m perfectly happy for everyone else to go and I’ll stay with DSR but she doesn’t want that.

But we cannot do what she wants.

We’ve had long weekends with them and it’s been utterly hell because they book, we turn up to find there’s no WiFi, the kitchen is open plan so DSR is impossible to contain, the bedrooms are far apart so we need to have awkward sleeping arrangements, the house is unsafe (cellars and attics etc) so we are just run ragged but then they get to take him to the playground for an hour each day so think it’s a break for everyone and it’s not.

AIBU here? I don’t think I am but she’s so upset I’m open to hearing other viewpoints.

I’m on the verge of just saying a blanket ‘no’ as I know we won’t find something suitable and trying will cause more discord.

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Supportedinstep · 24/02/2026 00:27

Cruise. Honestly. I wish I’d discovered them years ago. They’re the perfect compromise and you can still have your culture and fab food. My SEN kids love it.

Merryoldgoat · 24/02/2026 00:16

@CraftyYankee thank you for your considered responses

@PollyBell I agree. They are lovely but not very flexible in some ways.

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PollyBell · 24/02/2026 00:13

CraftyYankee · 24/02/2026 00:10

Since they do sound well meaning, perhaps what you said above is worth saying to them? Whether consciously or not they are trying to impose their dream of what grandparenting would be like, and haven't accepted the reality is different.

Perhaps if you tell them you understand, this isn't what you imagined either, but you need to deal with the reality not pick up the pieces when their fantasy creates disaster with DSR. Acknowledge the loss but say they can still share holidays with accommodations. If MIL still won't budge then that's on her.

I know the OP has made a decision but in general well meaning is ''Here is the plan I would really love it if you can ll come along"" that is a lovely thing to suggest not throwing a tantrum or putting on waterworks and trying to guilt trip because you want your own way

CraftyYankee · 24/02/2026 00:10

Since they do sound well meaning, perhaps what you said above is worth saying to them? Whether consciously or not they are trying to impose their dream of what grandparenting would be like, and haven't accepted the reality is different.

Perhaps if you tell them you understand, this isn't what you imagined either, but you need to deal with the reality not pick up the pieces when their fantasy creates disaster with DSR. Acknowledge the loss but say they can still share holidays with accommodations. If MIL still won't budge then that's on her.

Merryoldgoat · 24/02/2026 00:06

Thank you all. I think I’ll leave it to DH to keep firm on our position.

I suspect it will end up with DH & DS going.

Maybe I’ll fuck off to Champney’s for a long weekend when they get back. 🤣

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PollyBell · 24/02/2026 00:04

Merryoldgoat · 24/02/2026 00:01

We did suggest booking separate accommodation. Guess what? They want us all in the same place.

I think that they just haven’t yet really accepted how different life looks now.

Their fantasy of their retirement would have been lots of shared holidays which they treated us to all around quaint European towns and cities.

It’s just not the way it was meant to be 🤷🏾‍♀️

I will not holiday with any one who tries to guilt trip me, a holiday it meant to be a mutual thing not some control thing, if they were they that nice they would understand

and no you dont have to suck it up because well you dont have to pay

Lostearrings · 24/02/2026 00:01

I do feel for you
Could you holiday in parallel? So the same location but you, DH and your DSes in a bland AI place and your in-law’s in a place with character down the road and different members of your family meet up with them depending on the plan for the day. If it’s a few hours on the beach, it might be something you do together; if it’s a trip to a castle, it might be that your DH and DS1 go; if it’s the middle of the week, it might be that DS1 is in need to a slump day as well as DS2

Merryoldgoat · 24/02/2026 00:01

We did suggest booking separate accommodation. Guess what? They want us all in the same place.

I think that they just haven’t yet really accepted how different life looks now.

Their fantasy of their retirement would have been lots of shared holidays which they treated us to all around quaint European towns and cities.

It’s just not the way it was meant to be 🤷🏾‍♀️

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Nofeckingway · 23/02/2026 23:59

I think your PIL are being very uncompromising. They want you all to go but only on their terms. Surely at this stage they must know that huge accomodations have to be made for your son . Thanks for asking but the kind of holiday you want just doesnt work well for DSR. And let your DH be the one to discuss it with them.

Mumofteenandtween · 23/02/2026 23:58

That makes it a lot harder. Both my parents and my in laws have been happy to go to the AI hotel with the beige buffet as they have realised how much easier it makes our lives.The hilarious thing is that my parents have started going AI when they go on their own as well. It seems once you have had 24 hour free tea and coffee (my mum is a massive tea drinker and my dad has Nescafé running through his veins 😂) then you don’t want to give it up. 😂

BubbleFree · 23/02/2026 23:57

sittingonabeach · 23/02/2026 23:51

Is it possible to stay in different accommodation but near each other and have times when you all meet up and other times when you are just your family of 4. When DS was younger we did this, so we had some holiday with GPs and other times just us (and they had some quieter time without young DC running around)

Cross posted. This would be the perfect solution imo

BubbleFree · 23/02/2026 23:56

Why don’t you both book separate accommodation? They get the period properties they like and you can do an AI then meet up for suitable activities.

Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:51

@CraftyYankee I’d love to go!! I love culture, museums, all the same things they do. They are very involved with the boys but they don’t know what 24 hours is like - the difficulties with toileting, trying to keep him dressed and not get his penis out in public, trying to get a reasonable diet in him etc. They see a big cuddly chaotic but highly loveable puppy-like thing without the drudgery that’s our daily life.

DH and I are 100% on the same page and he’s communicated this to them. She brought it up separately with me when I saw her last week at drop off.

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sittingonabeach · 23/02/2026 23:51

Is it possible to stay in different accommodation but near each other and have times when you all meet up and other times when you are just your family of 4. When DS was younger we did this, so we had some holiday with GPs and other times just us (and they had some quieter time without young DC running around)

geekygardener · 23/02/2026 23:50

Just be firm about not going and why. Don’t feel any guilt about it either. They are good grandparents so should be understanding.
I too have autistic children and made the mistake of going to many activities and trips that were unsuitable, just to keep the peace. Poor dc would be overwhelmed and me and dh would just have a crap time and end up exhausted and resentful. Despite how good family and friends were they just didn’t get it and that’s not their fault but it’s difficult none the less.
The final straw was recently when a family member complained to everyone that we were late to dinner (we didn’t miss the meal start time but they wanted picking up right on time to have a pre dinner drink) we were late because dc had a meltdown due to all the rushing and upheaval of trying to prepare for an unsuitable dinner venue. I tried to explain why we were late but everyone just joked about it or were annoyed. Never mind that we arrived already flustered and exhausted, while they had a chilled drink. I decided then that I’m not doing that anymore and il only do things that are suitable and less hard work. If people can’t accept that then so be it, if they cared they would understand.

PollyBell · 23/02/2026 23:48

You dont need to go on a holiday because someone wants you too and certainly not regularly, isnt the point of as holiday it works for everyone?

AutismMum2017 · 23/02/2026 23:46

OP, I 100% feel the pain as I have my own DSR 😂

I think maybe you need to have a frank discussion with them, obvs whilst laying it on thick about how much you would love to go, however DSR would end up costing you hundreds if not thousands in breakages making it a very expensive trip etc etc.

the posters saying ‘you’ve obviously made your mind up about not going’ should probably walk a mile in our shoes whilst paying for breakages along the way before they judge. It’s incredibly stressful to put yourself in that situation and it wouldn’t be a break for you at all which by the sounds of things is what they are (very kindly) trying to do for you.

a lovely idea but not practical unfortunately xxx

CraftyYankee · 23/02/2026 23:43

That sounds really hard. I think you are doing the best you can in offering alternatives. You sound like you would like to go IF it won't cause you more stress than it is worth.

What's your DH's role in all this? As it's his parents if you decide the trip doesn't work for you as a family he should be the one to communicate that I would think, so you're not the bad guy.

Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:40

Cat1504 · 23/02/2026 23:34

Sounds like you already decided you not going whatever anyone suggests

Well, I know what we need and I think it’s PIL who won’t accept any of the accommodations that would mean he can go.

If they would go to a hotel like I suggested then we’d go. I’m happy to stay home and DH go with DS13 but that’s not ok.

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Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:35

Cat1504 · 23/02/2026 23:34

So where did you stay with them last year?

we didn’t go with them last year - that was just us as a family of 4

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Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:34

Lilyhatesjaz · 23/02/2026 23:25

How about somewhere like centre parks so you can stay near the pool with your DS and they can explore the surrounding area.

I have suggested that we could do this as a long weekend after the others have had the ‘nice’ holiday.

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Cat1504 · 23/02/2026 23:34

Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:33

Sorry I haven’t explained - they don’t want to stay in a hotel like that. They hate AI hotels and won’t stay in one.

If they would it would be a non issue.

So where did you stay with them last year?

Cat1504 · 23/02/2026 23:34

Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:32

Thank you all.

@Pistachiocake I love them both very much. They have never been anything but welcoming and they are truly outstanding grandparents.

Food is a big issue. Both boys have very restricted diets and whilst I don’t give a shit if they live on Weetabix and chips for week I can’t say I love the idea of having to stay in supervising a deep fried buffet every night whilst everyone else is out at a lovely restaurant.

If I’m honest I just don’t know how much of a break it will be for me. I think it will be me wrangling the rhino with very little respite.

It’s very hard to allow myself also to feel the sadness at how our lives are. It’s just not what we thought it would be. He’s only been toilet trained for about 5 months.

Sounds like you already decided you not going whatever anyone suggests

Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:33

Sorry I haven’t explained - they don’t want to stay in a hotel like that. They hate AI hotels and won’t stay in one.

If they would it would be a non issue.

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Merryoldgoat · 23/02/2026 23:32

Thank you all.

@Pistachiocake I love them both very much. They have never been anything but welcoming and they are truly outstanding grandparents.

Food is a big issue. Both boys have very restricted diets and whilst I don’t give a shit if they live on Weetabix and chips for week I can’t say I love the idea of having to stay in supervising a deep fried buffet every night whilst everyone else is out at a lovely restaurant.

If I’m honest I just don’t know how much of a break it will be for me. I think it will be me wrangling the rhino with very little respite.

It’s very hard to allow myself also to feel the sadness at how our lives are. It’s just not what we thought it would be. He’s only been toilet trained for about 5 months.

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