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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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SpaceRaccoon · 25/02/2026 15:04

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:58

@SlipperStar and this is why I also feel that there is racist element in the way that John is being treated, simply because he is white - a fact that he can't change, just like his disability. He is not being viewed as a vulnerable human being by many and within the context of his condition. He's just a white man shouting a racial slur to many. I do wonder if he was black or brown shouting a racial slur would some of these people be more willing to understand the context of his medical condition.

I agree with this, and it's also awful because it's Americans viewing it through their lens. They have no understanding of the additional clas structure in the UK, they don't see that he's a working-class man with very little social or economic power.
So while they might view it as somehow righteous anger, many in the UK just see the mass bullying of a vulnerable man, and are appalled.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 15:00

I knew if I stayed on this sub long enough, posters would find a way to blame MBJ and Delroy, and claim JD is the victim of racist bias. And here it is.

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:58

@SlipperStar and this is why I also feel that there is racist element in the way that John is being treated, simply because he is white - a fact that he can't change, just like his disability. He is not being viewed as a vulnerable human being by many and within the context of his condition. He's just a white man shouting a racial slur to many. I do wonder if he was black or brown shouting a racial slur would some of these people be more willing to understand the context of his medical condition.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 14:45

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:30

@SlipperStar it's awful! I feel so bad for him. This is why I agree that the two actors need to stand up for him now and show they understand the condition and don't blame him for it. He can't help it and he doesn't deserve to be publicly shamed for something that isn't his fault. Anyone can choose to be kind and put aside their personal hurt feelings, for others, especially when it is not the other persons fault and they are being unfairly targeted. John is far far more vulnerable then those two actors! They could choose to help a vulnerable person with their status.

Exactly

I saw someone saying that this highlights how much we are failing those with "unsavoury" disabilities and conditions

Instead of supporting a vulnerable man, he is being vilified and threatened and clearly feels he needs to keep making statements because those he makes are being called "inadequate" whilst 2 people who could step up and show a little decency and kindness are studiously quiet (and even making comments which could feed the vilifying, the same from Hannah) and that's ok because "black people don't owe you"

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 14:38

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:30

@SlipperStar it's awful! I feel so bad for him. This is why I agree that the two actors need to stand up for him now and show they understand the condition and don't blame him for it. He can't help it and he doesn't deserve to be publicly shamed for something that isn't his fault. Anyone can choose to be kind and put aside their personal hurt feelings, for others, especially when it is not the other persons fault and they are being unfairly targeted. John is far far more vulnerable then those two actors! They could choose to help a vulnerable person with their status.

That is assuming they do understand his condition and don’t blame him for it. Until they speak we will never know. If I were them I would say something to show I don’t hold the same views as Jamie Foxx and I’m a decent, empathetic human being but that would apparently be using POC as a teaching aid.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 14:34

HRTQueen · 25/02/2026 08:17

No I am not I said I can understand why JF was not feeling compassionate

it can’t possibly go unnoticed that black people are held to different ideals than white and even brown people

Or that the same applies to disabled people, but the same importance is not attached to it.

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:30

@SlipperStar it's awful! I feel so bad for him. This is why I agree that the two actors need to stand up for him now and show they understand the condition and don't blame him for it. He can't help it and he doesn't deserve to be publicly shamed for something that isn't his fault. Anyone can choose to be kind and put aside their personal hurt feelings, for others, especially when it is not the other persons fault and they are being unfairly targeted. John is far far more vulnerable then those two actors! They could choose to help a vulnerable person with their status.

INeedAPensieve · 25/02/2026 14:26

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 14:16

He has made so, so many statements and apologies trying to make things right

It's becoming extremely clear now that the BBC has failed John and the actors. They probably won't admit it now though sadly. There will be a "lessons learned" statement but nothing, in fact, will be learned until the next time. Very frustrating.

I feel really sad that such a great film that highlighted the problems with tourettes and the extremely challenging and difficult life John has had is now overshadowed by outraged keyboard warriors who just won't listen.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 14:24

JonesTown · 25/02/2026 14:02

I’m now at the stage where I would like Lindo and Jordan to come out with a statement that while the word is offensive, they accept that there was no intent here.

It is very unseemly that we have a janitor with an illness that has ruined his life now being abused in an attempt to defend two millionaire actors.

We aren't allowed to want that though because it's expecting black people to be teaching aids rather than decent people

Having now seen an article where MBJ is described as being "repulsed" by the incident it does raise questions about where he does stand tbh

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 14:16

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:04

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4g2ldegdwo

John Davidson speaks on the matter

He has made so, so many statements and apologies trying to make things right

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:12

@JonesTown I agree!

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 14:05

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:42

Ok. I am allowed to personally decline the responsibility of educating the public at the cost of myself, yes? So I am. Personally. And for everyone at my events, as that is my remit.

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So basically you are saying that no-one at your events has anything to contribute to the benefit of society ?

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:04

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4g2ldegdwo

John Davidson speaks on the matter

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 14:03

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:56

I am sure there are some PoC who think the N word should be included in the broadcast. Definitely. Waiting......

Edited

And once again, posters have already commented to that effect. You are assuming they are all white.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 14:02

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:52

Happy to be a bigot and ableist if it means believing that MBJ and DL should protect themselves from the internet beast and say nothing. They are not responsible for Jamie Foxx or other nutters on X.

Wow. That’s quite an admission.

JonesTown · 25/02/2026 14:02

I’m now at the stage where I would like Lindo and Jordan to come out with a statement that while the word is offensive, they accept that there was no intent here.

It is very unseemly that we have a janitor with an illness that has ruined his life now being abused in an attempt to defend two millionaire actors.

Quine0nline · 25/02/2026 13:25

Hopefully those calling for the assault, murder or abuse of a man with protected characteristics will be prosecuted for hate crimes and those encouraging them are prosecuted with that too.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 13:03

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:56

I am sure there are some PoC who think the N word should be included in the broadcast. Definitely. Waiting......

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Of course there will be because people’s thoughts are not defined by their skin colour. Finally you might be getting it. (I know you’re not and never will by the way)

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:56

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:54

You can decline anything you wish, you have free will. You just can’t speak for the collective POC hive mind because that’s not a thing.

I am sure there are some PoC who think the N word should be included in the broadcast. Definitely. Waiting......

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:55

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:52

Happy to be a bigot and ableist if it means believing that MBJ and DL should protect themselves from the internet beast and say nothing. They are not responsible for Jamie Foxx or other nutters on X.

And John is not responsible for the racists and bigots who are using his clip to be racists and bigots but he is being expected to make apologies and statements 🤷‍♀️

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:54

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:42

Ok. I am allowed to personally decline the responsibility of educating the public at the cost of myself, yes? So I am. Personally. And for everyone at my events, as that is my remit.

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You can decline anything you wish, you have free will. You just can’t speak for the collective POC hive mind because that’s not a thing.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:53

Chimen · 25/02/2026 12:41

This is ridiculous.
you don’t expect John to say something about the racism DL and MBJ are currently getting.

That would be the decent thing to do as he unintentionally put them in this situation.

Why should they say anything about John and feed the internet beast…

It’s an all round shit situation for those involved.

John has been expected to make apologise and statements about how no offense was meant

Expecting a statement saying "we don't condone this abuse and we understand he didn't do this out of malice" is the same

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:52

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Happy to be a bigot and ableist if it means believing that MBJ and DL should protect themselves from the internet beast and say nothing. They are not responsible for Jamie Foxx or other nutters on X.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:50

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CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:42

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:39

You weren’t told you were speaking for all POC, you declared yourself the voice of all POC.

Big difference.

Ok. I am allowed to personally decline the responsibility of educating the public at the cost of myself, yes? So I am. Personally. And for everyone at my events, as that is my remit.