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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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PollyBell · 23/02/2026 22:23

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Laserwho · 23/02/2026 22:20

phoenixrosehere · 23/02/2026 22:18

Why because you disagree? Perhaps, others would go report the other threads then.

Haven't read the others. This is more than enough. Such hate for someone with a disability who has spent his life raising awareness for tourettes. John is amazing. Shame on you

Endofyear · 23/02/2026 22:19

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:25

@Pollqueenare you by any chance a POC? I bet other posters aren’t, something tells me this needs a unique lived experience to understand. In the nicest way possible I’m not trying to offend.

I'm a person of colour and I'm not remotely offended by John Davidson. People with tourettes do not have any influence over their involuntary tics - their tics do not represent their feelings or opinions. Unfortunately, there is so much ignorance about disability in general which I do find offensive, and depressing.

phoenixrosehere · 23/02/2026 22:18

Laserwho · 23/02/2026 22:16

Thread reported.

Why because you disagree? Perhaps, others would go report the other threads then.

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 22:17

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 22:14

Can you not see what is wrong with expecting people who have NO control over something being made to apologise?
What is to be gained by making them say sorry? They can't help it, and they will do the same again.

When you put it like that it really shows just how distasteful this thread is.

Laserwho · 23/02/2026 22:16

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XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 22:14

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 22:12

I would have immediately apologised!! Therefore wouldn’t need to be hauled up.

im imaging it now. I’m at work and fall over during a seizure and injure someone - wouldn’t it be weird if I DIDNT apologise when I recovered!?

it would be very very weird not to!?

Can you not see what is wrong with expecting people who have NO control over something being made to apologise?
What is to be gained by making them say sorry? They can't help it, and they will do the same again.

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HRTQueen · 23/02/2026 22:13

apologising for hurting someone is not apologising for your disability it wasn’t intentional but it was still hurtful it’s acknowledging this and acknowledging you are sorry they are hurt

It is not up to to others to decide what is hurtful

phoenixrosehere · 23/02/2026 22:13

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 22:10

If you were epileptic and had a seizure... kicked someone in the face during it... would you be happy being hauled up in public and made to apologise??

Seriously? Who would stand that close to someone to get kicked in the face and if I hurt someone I would naturally apologise because that is what one does when you hurt someone.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 22:12

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 22:10

If you were epileptic and had a seizure... kicked someone in the face during it... would you be happy being hauled up in public and made to apologise??

I would have immediately apologised!! Therefore wouldn’t need to be hauled up.

im imaging it now. I’m at work and fall over during a seizure and injure someone - wouldn’t it be weird if I DIDNT apologise when I recovered!?

it would be very very weird not to!?

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hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/02/2026 22:11

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 23/02/2026 22:06

I have no doubt everyone would change their tune if their 6 yr old DC came home and said Jonny spent all day in clas shouting 'Cunt'.

Jonny can't help it dear, no need to worry now hurry the fuck up and finish your Cheerios

I'm not sure what this means. People would stop believing it was a disability if that happened? People would think the child was secretly doing it on purpose? People would say the child shouldn't be around other children?

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 22:11

GCAcademic · 23/02/2026 22:09

It really doesn't. There is loads of ableism on this site. Just not today. I'd like to say that I think this is a pleasant change, but . . .

Yes, of course you're correct. I should have made it clear there's (thankfully) a lot of fight back against ableism.

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 22:10

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 22:07

EXACTLY this

If you were epileptic and had a seizure... kicked someone in the face during it... would you be happy being hauled up in public and made to apologise??

Laserwho · 23/02/2026 22:10

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 23/02/2026 22:06

I have no doubt everyone would change their tune if their 6 yr old DC came home and said Jonny spent all day in clas shouting 'Cunt'.

Jonny can't help it dear, no need to worry now hurry the fuck up and finish your Cheerios

At 6 years old my kids knew about lots of disabilities, because I educate them. They would have supported the child in class with tourettes because they are compasionate kids, even at the age of 6.

GCAcademic · 23/02/2026 22:09

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 21:59

Then you're being disingenuous because this site staunchly guards disabilities and learning difficulties. There's quite a few with an agenda at play.

It really doesn't. There is loads of ableism on this site. Just not today. I'd like to say that I think this is a pleasant change, but . . .

phoenixrosehere · 23/02/2026 22:09

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 22:05

Absolutely clueless.

Why because I think two things can be true at once?

Why is it that when people like yourself disagree with no clear reason, you resort to name calling.

At least say what part or ignore..

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 22:07

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 23/02/2026 22:06

I have no doubt everyone would change their tune if their 6 yr old DC came home and said Jonny spent all day in clas shouting 'Cunt'.

Jonny can't help it dear, no need to worry now hurry the fuck up and finish your Cheerios

EXACTLY this

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SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 23/02/2026 22:06

I have no doubt everyone would change their tune if their 6 yr old DC came home and said Jonny spent all day in clas shouting 'Cunt'.

Jonny can't help it dear, no need to worry now hurry the fuck up and finish your Cheerios

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 22:06

Still no replies to any of the many analogies I’ve given…

I I get it, we seem to only become compassionate about SOME illnesses and disabilities

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Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 22:05

phoenixrosehere · 23/02/2026 22:04

I’m sorry for the people who I’ve hurt and embarrassed. That was not my intention, yet that doesn’t take away from the impact of what I did to them.

If he didn’t say that, then it was a lukewarm apology.

You can bring awareness to your disability and apologise for the impact when you publicly embarass people on an awards show many watch. Those men are going to remember being on a stage doing their job and being called a racial slur. That stuff stays with them regardless of intent.

Absolutely clueless.

phoenixrosehere · 23/02/2026 22:04

hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/02/2026 21:56

He explained that this is the main symptom of his disability, that it is involuntary and not reflective of his true feelings, and he left the event early. There have been multiple statements and apologies from BBC, Bafta, and Tourettes Action. What more is there to say?

I’m sorry for the people who I’ve hurt and embarrassed. That was not my intention, yet that doesn’t take away from the impact of what I did to them.

If he didn’t say that, then it was a lukewarm apology.

You can bring awareness to your disability and apologise for the impact when you publicly embarass people on an awards show many watch. Those men are going to remember being on a stage doing their job and being called a racial slur. That stuff stays with them regardless of intent.

Dancingspleen1 · 23/02/2026 22:02

No apology is required.

You need to educate yourself.

Let me get this right - you want a man with a disability that has lived with shame, ridicule and misunderstanding the vast majority of his life to apologise for something that had zero intent and that he 100% had no control over? An action he did on a night that obviously meant so much to him but he had to leave and watch on a TV so he didn't cause anymore 'awkwardness'. I find that heartbreaking. On the very night a light was being shone on Tourettes worldwide, with the hope of bringing some understanding and empathy. What's wrong with shrugging it off? To support a fellow human being that just like you, carries a similar emotional burden every single day. In regards to this incident - you have chosen to be needlessly offended.

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 21:59

GCAcademic · 23/02/2026 21:57

From the reaction I'm seeing online, I get the impression that there are a lot of people who are absolutely loving telling people of colour that they must not complain about having racial slurs shouted at them. I've certainly never seen so many vocal champions of disabled rights on MN before.

Then you're being disingenuous because this site staunchly guards disabilities and learning difficulties. There's quite a few with an agenda at play.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 23/02/2026 21:58

Look OP, one day when you’re much older you might be unfortunate enough to get dementia. You might be one of those placid people with dementia or you might not, you might be aggressive, violent, spit at your carers or hit them, you might call them terrible names and they might even be racist. If any of these things ever happen to you I hope you are ready to start apologising prolifically to anyone you unintentionally offended or cause distress to. Because of a neurological disease.