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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 20:39

Triskellion75 · 02/03/2026 20:28

If he was trans she'd be right in there.

Yes Maxine Peake is an incredible actress, probably my favourite. But she comes across as a terrible human being

YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 20:34

SpaceRaccoon · 02/03/2026 19:41

https://x.com/concretemilk/status/2026336282683539931

I don't know how anyone can look at this footage and be so cruel to children with Tourettes.

This little boy is now a drummer and had a small role in I Swear

I remember seeing this documentary when it first aired and I thought about that poor little boy for years.

Triskellion75 · 02/03/2026 20:28

SALaw · 02/03/2026 18:43

It’s so upsetting seeing various stars in the USA punch down at a working class, ordinary Scottish man with a terrible neurological condition that has deeply impacted his whole life, relationships, work etc. He is a private citizen, not a public figure, not a celebrity. He is only in the public eye due to the work he has done over many years to try to educate people so as to improve the lives of people with the same condition, especially young people. He had a film made about his life and BAFTA celebrated the story and the actors, then turned their back on him due to the very thing the film was about. Where are all the be kinders? Where are all the outspoken celebrities? Where is Maxine Peake, respected and with the ear of many who plays the woman that understood so well that John Davidson COULD NOT HELP what he said or did?!

If he was trans she'd be right in there.

YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 20:26

SALaw · 02/03/2026 18:47

That’s exactly what happened to John at school, as the brilliant documentaries from the time and the recent film shows. He was ostracised, belted, shunned etc for it. As you would advocate for, apparently.

My 9yo DS would absolutely love it if someone shouted swear words in his class🤣 I can’t say my response would be to pearl clutch but perhaps tell my DS what Tourette’s is and to remind him we are kind to those less fortunate. It’s just words, they hear them eventually

SpaceRaccoon · 02/03/2026 19:41

SALaw · 02/03/2026 19:24

What’s your point then? You seem to be saying people should not accept that a child with Tourettes might be in their child’s class?

https://x.com/concretemilk/status/2026336282683539931

I don't know how anyone can look at this footage and be so cruel to children with Tourettes.

Damo (@concretemilk) on X

This is how Tourette's can impact the people who live with it. I'm sure demanding that they issue relentless apologies for their tics would be a massive help, right?

https://x.com/concretemilk/status/2026336282683539931

SALaw · 02/03/2026 19:24

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 02/03/2026 19:13

I'm mot advocating for anything, you've just made that bit up 👍

What’s your point then? You seem to be saying people should not accept that a child with Tourettes might be in their child’s class?

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 02/03/2026 19:13

SALaw · 02/03/2026 18:47

That’s exactly what happened to John at school, as the brilliant documentaries from the time and the recent film shows. He was ostracised, belted, shunned etc for it. As you would advocate for, apparently.

I'm mot advocating for anything, you've just made that bit up 👍

elperosimpatico · 02/03/2026 18:55

I think he was made to work in a cupboard at school sometimes so he didn't disrupt the other kids (who could still hear him and laugh at him ticcing in the cupboard)

SALaw · 02/03/2026 18:47

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 23/02/2026 22:06

I have no doubt everyone would change their tune if their 6 yr old DC came home and said Jonny spent all day in clas shouting 'Cunt'.

Jonny can't help it dear, no need to worry now hurry the fuck up and finish your Cheerios

That’s exactly what happened to John at school, as the brilliant documentaries from the time and the recent film shows. He was ostracised, belted, shunned etc for it. As you would advocate for, apparently.

SALaw · 02/03/2026 18:43

It’s so upsetting seeing various stars in the USA punch down at a working class, ordinary Scottish man with a terrible neurological condition that has deeply impacted his whole life, relationships, work etc. He is a private citizen, not a public figure, not a celebrity. He is only in the public eye due to the work he has done over many years to try to educate people so as to improve the lives of people with the same condition, especially young people. He had a film made about his life and BAFTA celebrated the story and the actors, then turned their back on him due to the very thing the film was about. Where are all the be kinders? Where are all the outspoken celebrities? Where is Maxine Peake, respected and with the ear of many who plays the woman that understood so well that John Davidson COULD NOT HELP what he said or did?!

elperosimpatico · 02/03/2026 18:04

Although I will point out that I don't agree with everything the article says.

YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 17:42

elperosimpatico · 02/03/2026 15:57

Yes, sadly I've seen those attitudes all over the internet - I'd have thought the black community would know better (not that it's just black people saying these things of course). One of the black people who suffers from Tourettes and made a statement that showed kindness, tolerance and understanding seems to have been bullied into withdrawing some of her views and has been accused of putting her disability above her race - I just don't understand that attitude and the fact it seems quite widespread in America is incredibly disheartening.

The narrative in the States is odd

Three seems to be some kind of immutable flow chart for who is The Most Oppressed with no wriggle room for nuance. They GENUINELY think two millionaire powerful actors have it worse than a working class Scottish disabled caretaker because they’re black. And that it gives them a right to be abusive because they’re higher up the flow chart.

im glad we are more enlightened in the U.K. about disabilities

elperosimpatico · 02/03/2026 15:57

Yes, sadly I've seen those attitudes all over the internet - I'd have thought the black community would know better (not that it's just black people saying these things of course). One of the black people who suffers from Tourettes and made a statement that showed kindness, tolerance and understanding seems to have been bullied into withdrawing some of her views and has been accused of putting her disability above her race - I just don't understand that attitude and the fact it seems quite widespread in America is incredibly disheartening.

YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 15:44

elperosimpatico · 02/03/2026 15:20

Jesus Christ, I can't believe that a room full of black people laughed at a disabled person being made fun of. I just can't get my head around the fact that this has happened and that so little understanding has been shown. Why did nobody call it out or make a statement that what they had seen was totally wrong in every way and unacceptable? And why isn't this being discussed more widely on mumsnet? I thought about starting a thread but my own disabilities mean I would probably be too overwhelmed to keep up with it. I think that's an intelligent and well thought out response from John.

Also there have been threads where people have called for Tourette’s sufferers to be muzzled if they have to go out in public.

i wish I was joking

YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 15:43

elperosimpatico · 02/03/2026 15:20

Jesus Christ, I can't believe that a room full of black people laughed at a disabled person being made fun of. I just can't get my head around the fact that this has happened and that so little understanding has been shown. Why did nobody call it out or make a statement that what they had seen was totally wrong in every way and unacceptable? And why isn't this being discussed more widely on mumsnet? I thought about starting a thread but my own disabilities mean I would probably be too overwhelmed to keep up with it. I think that's an intelligent and well thought out response from John.

Th education system isn’t exactly excellent in the US, they probably think it’s a white person disease

elperosimpatico · 02/03/2026 15:20

Jesus Christ, I can't believe that a room full of black people laughed at a disabled person being made fun of. I just can't get my head around the fact that this has happened and that so little understanding has been shown. Why did nobody call it out or make a statement that what they had seen was totally wrong in every way and unacceptable? And why isn't this being discussed more widely on mumsnet? I thought about starting a thread but my own disabilities mean I would probably be too overwhelmed to keep up with it. I think that's an intelligent and well thought out response from John.

mollypuss1 · 02/03/2026 13:47

Agreed @SpaceRaccoon . There seems to be more people condemning SNL and Deon now. Hopefully at least some who were originally unaware of Tourette’s may now be better educated on it at least.

SpaceRaccoon · 02/03/2026 13:43

The NAACP awards stuff plus SNL has been shameful, but perhaps good in a way as I think a lot of people saw just out of hand everything has got.

I think Tourettes Scotland is up to £5000 received so that's brilliant - it helped me feel like I was doing something concrete to help rather than just shouting into the social media void.

John himself has now put a statement on his fb page, which I've put as a link to an X tweet rather than an image as the latter take a while to unhide. I saw the post on his actual page and the comments are heartening - thousands sending him love, support and best wishes.

https://x.com/pollyt22/status/2028464071134085243

PollyT🦋🐦 (@pollyt22) on X

Take note #Naccpawards @nbcsnl Instead of misinformed statements & inappropiate jokes, perhaps watch the film I Swear to gain some understanding of Tourettes Statement from John Davidson MBE who has done so much to enlighten people about Tourettes...

https://x.com/pollyt22/status/2028464071134085243

mollypuss1 · 02/03/2026 13:40

There is also a disgusting mocking sketch posted on SNL.

I genuinely don’t understand who could ever think this is acceptable.

JonesTown · 02/03/2026 13:21

YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 13:05

Has anyone seen the latest that some twat has stood up at the NAACP awards and, after making misogynistic comments about Nicki Minaj, he said (In a faux prayer):

Lord, before we go, if there are any white men out here in the audience with Tourette’s, I advise you to tell them they better read the room tonight, Lord. It might not go the way they thinketh. Whatever medicine they’re on, they better double up on it, Lord.

it was met with huge laughter
Fucking disgusting ableist pigs. If this has done anything surely is widened the gap between black people and everyone else?

Yep- seems to be a case of inclusion being important for everyone but disabled people for the Hollywood elite.

YiddlySquat · 02/03/2026 13:05

Has anyone seen the latest that some twat has stood up at the NAACP awards and, after making misogynistic comments about Nicki Minaj, he said (In a faux prayer):

Lord, before we go, if there are any white men out here in the audience with Tourette’s, I advise you to tell them they better read the room tonight, Lord. It might not go the way they thinketh. Whatever medicine they’re on, they better double up on it, Lord.

it was met with huge laughter
Fucking disgusting ableist pigs. If this has done anything surely is widened the gap between black people and everyone else?

YiddlySquat · 27/02/2026 21:30

The only good thing to come out of this is Tourette’s Scotland has received £3k in donations in the last few days. It only usually gets £50k a year.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 27/02/2026 21:18

YiddlySquat · 27/02/2026 21:06

I have to say, over the last 5 days I’ve been absolutely shocked at the nastiness and bullying, manly from ignorant Americans, to disabled people. It’s 2026 FFS. Even high profile celebrities like Jamie Foxx (who BTW is friends with Diddy and is in the Epstein files) and Queen Latifah calling him racist and setting bullies on him.

Ive even seen “proof that John Davidson is racist” - because in the movie there “a blackface scene”

There isn’t. There’s a scene where John tics while painting his room black and smacks himself in the face with the paint roller.

I think it’s no secret that a lot of angst from non-Americans to the USians is because the expect their issues and history to be the centre of every other country - whist simultaneously knowing absolute naff all about other countries and cultures, and not caring to find out either

I Swear is a Scottish film. Blackface has never been a thing in Scotland. There is such a thing as a Scottish Blackface - it’s a breed of highland sheep. Yet apparently the producers had to centre the feelings of Americans in every scene?!

It seems to me that the n word is something people can choose to be offended by depending on the context. So why anyone is choosing to be offended in this situation is utterly baffling. He also ticced homophobic words (including “pedo” At a gay man on stage) - the gay community haven’t taken offence despite the fact the stereotype that gay people are pedophiles has been deeply harmful and incited violence

ive seen calls from Americans for John to be beaten up and even killed. Everything he’s done since - the apologies and statement etc - have all been wrong apparently. It seems they want blood, or suicide. And if he did commit suicide they’d probably say he did it in a racist way.

I do look at the US, with its ignorance and deep ableism and total obsession with violence and public humiliation. And they voted in a rapist, felon President. Twice. I used to feel sorry for them having Trump - this week I’ve realised they have the president they deserve.

Brilliant post. Thank you.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 27/02/2026 21:12

YiddlySquat · 27/02/2026 21:06

I have to say, over the last 5 days I’ve been absolutely shocked at the nastiness and bullying, manly from ignorant Americans, to disabled people. It’s 2026 FFS. Even high profile celebrities like Jamie Foxx (who BTW is friends with Diddy and is in the Epstein files) and Queen Latifah calling him racist and setting bullies on him.

Ive even seen “proof that John Davidson is racist” - because in the movie there “a blackface scene”

There isn’t. There’s a scene where John tics while painting his room black and smacks himself in the face with the paint roller.

I think it’s no secret that a lot of angst from non-Americans to the USians is because the expect their issues and history to be the centre of every other country - whist simultaneously knowing absolute naff all about other countries and cultures, and not caring to find out either

I Swear is a Scottish film. Blackface has never been a thing in Scotland. There is such a thing as a Scottish Blackface - it’s a breed of highland sheep. Yet apparently the producers had to centre the feelings of Americans in every scene?!

It seems to me that the n word is something people can choose to be offended by depending on the context. So why anyone is choosing to be offended in this situation is utterly baffling. He also ticced homophobic words (including “pedo” At a gay man on stage) - the gay community haven’t taken offence despite the fact the stereotype that gay people are pedophiles has been deeply harmful and incited violence

ive seen calls from Americans for John to be beaten up and even killed. Everything he’s done since - the apologies and statement etc - have all been wrong apparently. It seems they want blood, or suicide. And if he did commit suicide they’d probably say he did it in a racist way.

I do look at the US, with its ignorance and deep ableism and total obsession with violence and public humiliation. And they voted in a rapist, felon President. Twice. I used to feel sorry for them having Trump - this week I’ve realised they have the president they deserve.

Well said.