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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:17

And is it using people as learning aids or simply showing the reality for people who suffer like John?

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 18:17

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:10

The word "segregation" particularly inappropriate in this case. He chose to leave of his own. No one told him to leave. He was not segregated.
Black people were segregated.

Where were black people segregated at the BAFTAs?

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:12

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:15

Quite confused by this response. You disagree but think it should have been bleeped out? Do you think leaving it in creates awareness?

It’s perfectly simple. Yes, leaving it in creates more awareness. Unfortunately the price to pay for raising that awareness involved the explosion of a baying mob on social media demanding what would essentially have been a pointless apology for an action resulting from disability a without intent. But hey, someone has to pay, right ?

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:10

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 18:05

I watched John's Not Mad again today. The sight of him sitting in that classroom, way back in the 80's, eating lunch alone and segregated from his peers, genuinely made me cry. All I could think was it's still happening to him. He was forced into segregation at the BAFTAS, at the event which was meant to be a celebration of all he's achieved.

The word "segregation" particularly inappropriate in this case. He chose to leave of his own. No one told him to leave. He was not segregated.
Black people were segregated.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:06

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:05

So basically any characteristic or trait of disability that makes us uncomfortable in any way should just be edited out as though it doesn’t exist ? That attitude is one of the reasons that disabled people people were institutionalised for so long. Out of sight, out of mind.

Ok. You are entitled to your opinion. If you think editing out the N word is like locking disabled people up in asylums, I can't help with that level of hyperbole.

The two are very far apart.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:05

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:01

John has to do precisely nothing. The responsibility is with BAFTA and the BBC, or whichever event he attends in the future. He's already put out a statement. That's enough.

Yes, slurs about anyone should be edited out before they are broadcast to millions. So a disabled person calling Meryl Streep a cunt when she goes up on stage at the Oscars, that can be edited out too. We don't need to use it as a learning aid to teach people about disabilities.

I don't really understand why you are going on about JD, when I have not mentioned him in my last few posts.

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So basically any characteristic or trait of disability that makes us uncomfortable in any way should just be edited out as though it doesn’t exist ? That attitude is one of the reasons that disabled people people were institutionalised for so long. Out of sight, out of mind.

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 18:05

Didyousaynutella · 24/02/2026 17:59

no one would learn a thing about the condition if it was censored out.

I watched John's Not Mad again today. The sight of him sitting in that classroom, way back in the 80's, eating lunch alone and segregated from his peers, genuinely made me cry. All I could think was it's still happening to him. He was forced into segregation at the BAFTAS, at the event which was meant to be a celebration of all he's achieved.

NotnowMildrid · 24/02/2026 18:04

Research Tourette’s syndrome and educate yourself.

Be glad you haven’t got it yourself, it’s horrific.

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 18:01

bigkicks · 24/02/2026 17:53

I'm white and I think an apology would be helpful. Not for the disability but for any hurt caused. My DS is severely autistic, non verbal with severe LD. I don't apologise for his behaviour if it's harmless, but when out of nowhere (always supervised closely, but he's fast) he accidentally throws sand in a toddlers face, or when he had a sudden moodswing and headbutted a lady next to him (she was actually lovely, I was dying of humiliation), of course I apologise. It's a direct result of his disability, but the other party is still injured.

He released a statement ages ago, he used the word "mortified" though to express his regret at the hurt, which apparently hasn't been good enough.

I don't think it's on to hound him further. God knows what state he's in after this onslaught as it is.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:01

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:57

And for the 1000th time, I have not asked for an apology. I have said that the words should have been bleeped out. Apparently, that is censorship and "baying for blood".
I disagree.

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You’re entitled to your opinion.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 18:01

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 17:54

I'm assuming you'd apply that sentiment to everyone, not just PoC. As I said in my previous post, there isn't a characteristic that John won't tic about. So if none of us should be expected to endure the content of those tics (I ask you again), what is John to do?

John has to do precisely nothing. The responsibility is with BAFTA and the BBC, or whichever event he attends in the future. He's already put out a statement. That's enough.

Yes, slurs about anyone should be edited out before they are broadcast to millions. So a disabled person calling Meryl Streep a cunt when she goes up on stage at the Oscars, that can be edited out too. We don't need to use it as a learning aid to teach people about disabilities.

I don't really understand why you are going on about JD, when I have not mentioned him in my last few posts.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 18:00

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:47

PoC are not your teaching aids. It's not reasonable accomodation to use them as such.
Bleeping out the N word is censorship? Ha. Maybe the Tourettes Society can intervene then.

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Of course it’s censorship. Failing to present a difficult disability like Tourette’s as it really is, for fear of causing offence sanities it for public consumption. No-one learns anything and disabled people with difficult to manage conditions remain marginalised because of intolerance rooted in ignorance. Nobody is singling out PoC as teaching aids, it could just as easily have been a tic aimed at something or someone else.

Didyousaynutella · 24/02/2026 17:59

no one would learn a thing about the condition if it was censored out.

Didyousaynutella · 24/02/2026 17:58

The n word is still banded about everywhere in popular music which everyone listens to. No wonder it was at the forefront of his mind. It is not the same as the the wor “hoxxxxy”. We never hear that.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:57

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 17:54

It wasn’t a racial slur in this context. It wasn’t coming from a place of racism, character trait or personal belief of the person saying it. It was a tic as a result of disability. We have now arrived at a point where critical thinking has gone completely out of the window and the mob are baying for blood because someone has to be held responsible, even though there was no intent to cause harm. It would be pointless for JD to have apologised for what he said, because an apology carries with it an expectation of change, and he is not capable of that change, by reason of disability.

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And for the 1000th time, I have not asked for an apology. I have said that the words should have been bleeped out. Apparently, that is censorship and "baying for blood".
I disagree.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 17:54

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:29

I don't believe black people need to be used as a teaching aid for millions via racial slurs.

I doubt JD wanted it that way either or he would not have used the word 'mortified". People can educate themselves by watching ' I Swear" or the dozens of videos.

I would also say that " I Swear' is not the only educational movie. " Sinners' is also highly educational and shows just why the BAFTA/ BBC couldnt be arsed to stir themselves while carefully editing out " piss" in case it offended anyone.

It wasn’t a racial slur in this context. It wasn’t coming from a place of racism, character trait or personal belief of the person saying it. It was a tic as a result of disability. We have now arrived at a point where critical thinking has gone completely out of the window and the mob are baying for blood because someone has to be held responsible, even though there was no intent to cause harm. It would be pointless for JD to have apologised for what he said, because an apology carries with it an expectation of change, and he is not capable of that change, by reason of disability.

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 17:54

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:47

PoC are not your teaching aids. It's not reasonable accomodation to use them as such.
Bleeping out the N word is censorship? Ha. Maybe the Tourettes Society can intervene then.

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I'm assuming you'd apply that sentiment to everyone, not just PoC. As I said in my previous post, there isn't a characteristic that John won't tic about. So if none of us should be expected to endure the content of those tics (I ask you again), what is John to do?

bigkicks · 24/02/2026 17:53

I'm white and I think an apology would be helpful. Not for the disability but for any hurt caused. My DS is severely autistic, non verbal with severe LD. I don't apologise for his behaviour if it's harmless, but when out of nowhere (always supervised closely, but he's fast) he accidentally throws sand in a toddlers face, or when he had a sudden moodswing and headbutted a lady next to him (she was actually lovely, I was dying of humiliation), of course I apologise. It's a direct result of his disability, but the other party is still injured.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:47

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 17:44

There is something called reasonable adjustment and accommodation which is applied to disabled people to ensure that despite disability, they can participate fully in society. Many disabled people are marginalised by their conditions because they are difficult to manage, misunderstood and society is intolerant of them.

What you’re suggesting here is censorship. Because Tourette’s is difficult and unpredictable, let’s sanitise it so that people aren’t offended. Do you not think a better option would be to show the reality and the difficulty people with this condition live with every day ? How else are we, as a society, going to learn, tolerate and ultimately ensure social inclusion ?

PoC are not your teaching aids. It's not reasonable accomodation to use them as such.
Bleeping out the N word is censorship? Ha. Maybe the Tourettes Society can intervene then.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 17:44

Triskellion75 · 24/02/2026 17:31

They should have edited or bleeped it out. It's one of the very few words that knock me sick, and I'm white.

There is something called reasonable adjustment and accommodation which is applied to disabled people to ensure that despite disability, they can participate fully in society. Many disabled people are marginalised by their conditions because they are difficult to manage, misunderstood and society is intolerant of them.

What you’re suggesting here is censorship. Because Tourette’s is difficult and unpredictable, let’s sanitise it so that people aren’t offended. Do you not think a better option would be to show the reality and the difficulty people with this condition live with every day ? How else are we, as a society, going to learn, tolerate and ultimately ensure social inclusion ?

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:41

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 17:38

John said he was mortified that anyone would think his tics were intentional - an important distinction to point out.

There isn't a characteristic that John won't tic. No one is more or less entitled, thus what is John to do? Lock himself away?

Once again, I have not said anything about " locking JD away". All I have said is that the slurs should have been edited out. Immediately. Like they edited ' piss' out in case it upset pissers.
I don't think this is a particularly outrageous view.

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 17:38

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:29

I don't believe black people need to be used as a teaching aid for millions via racial slurs.

I doubt JD wanted it that way either or he would not have used the word 'mortified". People can educate themselves by watching ' I Swear" or the dozens of videos.

I would also say that " I Swear' is not the only educational movie. " Sinners' is also highly educational and shows just why the BAFTA/ BBC couldnt be arsed to stir themselves while carefully editing out " piss" in case it offended anyone.

John said he was mortified that anyone would think his tics were intentional - an important distinction to point out.

There isn't a characteristic that John won't tic. No one is more or less entitled, thus what is John to do? Lock himself away?

DotAndCarryOne2 · 24/02/2026 17:35

TempestTost · 24/02/2026 13:48

So - this is a real question - why do you think it would be differernt? Do you think people only have empathy for people they know or something?

If my daughter was called something like that, in the same circumstances, no, I wouldn't be upset. I might worry she'd be disconcerted if she didn't expect it, but I know that once she understood the circumstances she wouldn't be bothered as there was no ill will. If it was appropriate and possible I might suggest she have a pleasant word with the individual afterwards, not about the comment, but just to say hello.

Agree Just as with an earlier previous thread there is a really prevalent belief here that an apology is needed for the impact of the words and the offence they caused. There is a failure to understand that those words didn’t come from the character or beliefs of the person saying them, they were the product of an uncontrollable disability, ergo the person is actually being asked to apologise for being disabled.
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Triskellion75 · 24/02/2026 17:31

They should have edited or bleeped it out. It's one of the very few words that knock me sick, and I'm white.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 17:29

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 17:24

That's correct.

One can only hope it has created some awareness.

I don't believe black people need to be used as a teaching aid for millions via racial slurs.

I doubt JD wanted it that way either or he would not have used the word 'mortified". People can educate themselves by watching ' I Swear" or the dozens of videos.

I would also say that " I Swear' is not the only educational movie. " Sinners' is also highly educational and shows just why the BAFTA/ BBC couldnt be arsed to stir themselves while carefully editing out " piss" in case it offended anyone.

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