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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 08:08

HRTQueen · 25/02/2026 07:49

I am not really surprised that Jamie Foxx wasn’t feeling compassionate, that is not defending him but we can all reach our point. I don’t agree with what he said but I can understand the thinking ffs again I am having to hear this/deal with this when does it end

it’s only a few weeks ago the president of the US (repeat that again) posted a terribly offence tweet and didn’t apologise and it was excused, I can think of another incident that was in our news (countless more will be in the US news) of public racism against black people

Again it’s not up to anyone else but that person to decide how they should feel

Jamie Foxx wasn’t just not feeling compassionate, he actively denied disability in order to take offence, and that’s exactly what we’re talking about here. He used his SM following to stoke up bad feeling against JD and as a result of his input there were death threats. In what world is this proportionate to what happened ?

The issue is whether an intelligent, rational and compassionate person is going to hold a disabled person responsible for using a slur they find offensive, even though they know that the use of that slur was absolutely nothing to do with the character or beliefs of that person, but entirely the product of a disability over which they have no control. By his actions Foxx has shown people that he is not that person, and while demanding compassion and understanding for his own situation, he has shown none for that of JD.

So are you saying we’ve now reached the point where a person of colour can make the most disgusting and deeply offensive ableist comments, and stoke up hatred and threats of violence against a disabled person, but we’re not allowed to call them out on it because they’re black ?

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:50

IHateWasps · 25/02/2026 07:44

Have you seen any other Tarantino films? He’s always been pretty free with the N word in movies whether or not it relates to slavery. Several of his films use the word repeatedly even if not as often in Django Unchained. Reservoir Dogs, which was his first film, uses it 5 times. He’s about as well known for liberal use of that word as he is his love of feet. So I do think that Jamie Foxx is a hypocrite.

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I have. Can't remember the N word. Some were a while ago.
But if you say he uses it, I believe you as my memory is hazy.

We can agree that JD's use of it was free of malice and hurt. Speaking from experience though, it still hurts to have a racist slur yelled at you at a forum for professional achievement.
Therefore all some of us are saying: BAFTA and the BBC failed in their duty of care by not erasing the slurs.But even this is apparently ableist. Even if JD asked for his tics to be erased, prior to the show!

HRTQueen · 25/02/2026 07:49

I am not really surprised that Jamie Foxx wasn’t feeling compassionate, that is not defending him but we can all reach our point. I don’t agree with what he said but I can understand the thinking ffs again I am having to hear this/deal with this when does it end

it’s only a few weeks ago the president of the US (repeat that again) posted a terribly offence tweet and didn’t apologise and it was excused, I can think of another incident that was in our news (countless more will be in the US news) of public racism against black people

Again it’s not up to anyone else but that person to decide how they should feel

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 07:49

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:19

Have you seen Django Unchained? It's about slavery and the KKK, and set in that period. The use of the N word is intended to evoke that time. Just like the word appears many times in " Sinners' which MBJ and DL appeared in. Because again, it's about slavery and the KKK.

If you want to say that intent matters, I agree. Which is why I do not blamr JD. All blame should go to the BAFTAS and BBC. But let's not blame black people.

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I think Foxx was right to support the use of the word within the context of the subject matter of those movies. But as far as I’m concerned he hit a personal low with his comments on SM. He’s influential and has a large following, and he used that to stoke the backlash against JD, and for that l do blame him, yes. But not because he’s black. I blame him because he contributed to the ignorance surrounding Tourette’s by claiming that the comments were deliberate, thus denying disability.

Miriann · 25/02/2026 07:47

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:39

Ok fair enough. I agree with what you say now you have explained further.
I am not keen on Jamie Foxx adding fuel to the fire. I don't think he has any understanding of Tourettes.
But then there are also commentators like Lawrence Fox who have insisted that they MUST use the N word, because black people do.
I agree that JD used the word with no malice. So it should have been edited out.

Yes the bbc should have edited it out, but so much of the criticism has been of john davidson which is completely unfair. I really wouldn't recommend taking any notice of anything Laurence fox says, calling him a commentator is very generous!

IHateWasps · 25/02/2026 07:44

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:19

Have you seen Django Unchained? It's about slavery and the KKK, and set in that period. The use of the N word is intended to evoke that time. Just like the word appears many times in " Sinners' which MBJ and DL appeared in. Because again, it's about slavery and the KKK.

If you want to say that intent matters, I agree. Which is why I do not blamr JD. All blame should go to the BAFTAS and BBC. But let's not blame black people.

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Have you seen any other Tarantino films? He’s always been pretty free with the N word in movies whether or not it relates to slavery. Several of his films use the word repeatedly even if not as often in Django Unchained. Reservoir Dogs, which was his first film, uses it 5 times. He’s about as well known for liberal use of that word as he is his love of feet. So I do think that Jamie Foxx is a hypocrite.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:39

Miriann · 25/02/2026 07:34

I don't think you understood what I was saying. It wasn't bigoted to use the N word in the film because of the context (it being appropriate for the film's setting), and it wasn't bigoted for John Davidson to use the N word because of the context (involuntary tics in Tourette syndrome).
I am criticizing Jamie Foxx for his hypocrisy. He is perfectly able to understand context when it benefits him, such as when defending Tarantino, and is able to avoid being upset by the use of the word, but with the baftas, he is suddenly completely unable to understand context, and blames a disabled man who was not in any way at fault. That is not 'blaming Black people,' that is criticizing a specific person for their actions, which I will do regardless of skin colour.

Ok fair enough. I agree with what you say now you have explained further.
I am not keen on Jamie Foxx adding fuel to the fire. I don't think he has any understanding of Tourettes.
But then there are also commentators like Lawrence Fox who have insisted that they MUST use the N word, because black people do.
I agree that JD used the word with no malice. So it should have been edited out.

Miriann · 25/02/2026 07:34

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:19

Have you seen Django Unchained? It's about slavery and the KKK, and set in that period. The use of the N word is intended to evoke that time. Just like the word appears many times in " Sinners' which MBJ and DL appeared in. Because again, it's about slavery and the KKK.

If you want to say that intent matters, I agree. Which is why I do not blamr JD. All blame should go to the BAFTAS and BBC. But let's not blame black people.

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I don't think you understood what I was saying. It wasn't bigoted to use the N word in the film because of the context (it being appropriate for the film's setting), and it wasn't bigoted for John Davidson to use the N word because of the context (involuntary tics in Tourette syndrome).
I am criticizing Jamie Foxx for his hypocrisy. He is perfectly able to understand context when it benefits him, such as when defending Tarantino, and is able to avoid being upset by the use of the word, but with the baftas, he is suddenly completely unable to understand context, and blames a disabled man who was not in any way at fault. That is not 'blaming Black people,' that is criticizing a specific person for their actions, which I will do regardless of skin colour.

Auroraloves · 25/02/2026 07:33

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:19

Have you seen Django Unchained? It's about slavery and the KKK, and set in that period. The use of the N word is intended to evoke that time. Just like the word appears many times in " Sinners' which MBJ and DL appeared in. Because again, it's about slavery and the KKK.

If you want to say that intent matters, I agree. Which is why I do not blamr JD. All blame should go to the BAFTAS and BBC. But let's not blame black people.

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Jamir Foxc is an idiot in this instance. Jumping straight to attack

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:19

Miriann · 25/02/2026 01:07

I feel so sorry for John. 😢 I do think the BBC should have edited it out for his sake to avoid all this harassment he's been getting. Jamie Foxx, the American actor who claimed that John Davidson said it on purpose and was apparently mortally wounded by it, recently defended Quentin Tarantino for using the n word 100 times in his film!
cinetitbit.com/movies/jamie-foxx-defends-quentin-tarantino-for-n-word-use-in-django-unchained/

Have you seen Django Unchained? It's about slavery and the KKK, and set in that period. The use of the N word is intended to evoke that time. Just like the word appears many times in " Sinners' which MBJ and DL appeared in. Because again, it's about slavery and the KKK.

If you want to say that intent matters, I agree. Which is why I do not blamr JD. All blame should go to the BAFTAS and BBC. But let's not blame black people.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 07:14

I got raked over the coals yesterday on this thread for saying a very mild thing: that the slurs should have been edited. Apparently, this is censorship. Erasure of disabled people Segregation. Ableist.

In that Variety interview, Davidson himself says he wishes the words had been erased and indeed, he attended assuming his tics would be edited out.
Is it censorship and segregation if JD hinself asked for it?

Auroraloves · 25/02/2026 07:10

ThisOliveKoala · 25/02/2026 01:58

@PassMeTheRedbull Just an fyi - black people are not monolith. I’m black, I don’t use the n word; neither do my family or friends. I don’t listen to music that uses it or vulgar words in general. So please refrain from grouping black people that works be great.

I’m white, I dont use it. In recent years I’ve only ever heard it used widely by ‘
some black people.

Evergreen21 · 25/02/2026 06:22

I agree op.

OtterlyAstounding · 25/02/2026 06:15

Chimen · 25/02/2026 05:48

Would some posters say he has nothing to apologise if someone that sleeps walks rapes their own wife whilst he is asleep?

One of the biggest fears for black people is it doesn’t matter how you act. At the end of the day to someone you are just a N.. word.
Deloy and Michael were reduced to 2 N word on stage.

Careful, I got raked over the coals earlier in the thread for using violence or rape as an example of 'how far do you take excusing the harm someone causes because of their disability'. Apparently it's stupid/crazy to even compare the two because they're apples and oranges, and words aren't actions.

But I totally understand what you're saying.

Chimen · 25/02/2026 05:48

Would some posters say he has nothing to apologise if someone that sleeps walks rapes their own wife whilst he is asleep?

One of the biggest fears for black people is it doesn’t matter how you act. At the end of the day to someone you are just a N.. word.
Deloy and Michael were reduced to 2 N word on stage.

Tamtim · 25/02/2026 04:49

Your feelings are valid.

The BBC should never have aired it. They should be apologising. The BAFTAS should be apologising. John himself would probably want to apologise because it happened the way it did. He should also be on the receiving end of apologies from those who allowed it to be aired publicly. It’s such a horrible thing to happen for John and everyone in the room. However, it does not display his true feelings or beliefs.

ThisOliveKoala · 25/02/2026 01:58

@PassMeTheRedbull Just an fyi - black people are not monolith. I’m black, I don’t use the n word; neither do my family or friends. I don’t listen to music that uses it or vulgar words in general. So please refrain from grouping black people that works be great.

Miriann · 25/02/2026 01:07

I feel so sorry for John. 😢 I do think the BBC should have edited it out for his sake to avoid all this harassment he's been getting. Jamie Foxx, the American actor who claimed that John Davidson said it on purpose and was apparently mortally wounded by it, recently defended Quentin Tarantino for using the n word 100 times in his film!
cinetitbit.com/movies/jamie-foxx-defends-quentin-tarantino-for-n-word-use-in-django-unchained/

notaurewhatusername · 25/02/2026 01:01

PassMeTheRedbull · 24/02/2026 19:12

Sorry if I’ve missed this but….

Why do black people call each other the N word? Not saying they shouldn’t or that it should be ok for anyone to if they use it to each other just genuinely curious, but surely this then comes down to context.

Black person calls another black person N word in conversation, used in music etc, it’s not being used as an insult. Not racist.

White person calls a black person N word with intent to hurt/abuse/offend and be racist. Racist.

Surely someone with an involuntary tic using the word (no intent to abuse or offend). Not racist.

In black and don’t use the N word towards other black people, there are many of us that don’t condone this.

I don’t like it in rap music either FWIW

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SpaceRaccoon · 25/02/2026 00:42

JasmineMac · 25/02/2026 00:30

Tourette's is a neurological condition that is legally recognised as a disability. John is just expressing his preferred terminology (I don't think I've ever heard him express preference before).

Neither have I. As you say, it's a legally recognised disability in the UK. I'll call it a condition instead if that's what people with Tourettes would rather.

I didn't realise he'd also had heart surgery a few weeks ago.

SALaw · 25/02/2026 00:41

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 20:21

Fair enough. I think everyone knows the word, from both racist and media uses, although the former came first, obviously.

Please comment to the many people on here that seem to think he can only know it because he is racist then. Thanks

JasmineMac · 25/02/2026 00:30

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 25/02/2026 00:14

Lots of people on here have called Tourette’s a disability, but John says in the article posted above, it’s a condition not a disability.

Tourette's is a neurological condition that is legally recognised as a disability. John is just expressing his preferred terminology (I don't think I've ever heard him express preference before).

Whatsherusername · 25/02/2026 00:30

I don't find your analogies to be the same. You are comparing physical pain caused accidentally with this. The whole point is the words are not John's words, they are a vocal tic which is a physical symptoms, which the sufferer can not stop. Think of it the same as you trying to stop sneezing or breathing. Not possible. One of you analogies was of a sleepwalker. Sleepwalking has been a successful defence in rape and murder trials as the accused is not responsible for their actions. The same as John is not.

To me this would be the same as someone having a seizure. Very scary to witness. And you as someone seeing this happen you could be traumatised by what you had seen. No intent is there by the disabled person to scare you. But you are still scared by the physical manifestation the of disabled persons condition. Does the epileptic person need to apologise to you???

I absolutely understand the lived experiance of POC, and how abhorrent the word is, but what you need to understand they aren't his words, and many apologies have been issued. The bbc should never have broadcast the unedited version.

Afterall, I our own queen could handle John saying F* THE Queen in front of her with dignity, grace and understanding I think the rest of the world has a lot to learn

MysticChevron · 25/02/2026 00:27

I think the context matters here too. It’s not like he yelled it in the street - which would be upsetting enough for both him and those observing. The word was amplified across the world. All three men have been let down by the powers that be. Part of me suspects that the BBC/BAFTAS organisation are loving the publicity and sensationalism. No one is expecting anyone to spend their entire lives apologising, but given the platform and the potency of the word, a direct apology certainly wouldn’t do any further harm.

ETA: if I stub my toe and swear reactively in front of my kids, for example, I apologise for my language. I know, I know…it’s not the same thing, but the concept of intent vs impact applies.

JasmineMac · 25/02/2026 00:24

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 23:55

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/john-davidson-tourettes-tics-bafta-n-word-interview-1236671850/

John had now contacted the Sinners production team to apologise directly.

Quelle surprise that's not enough for the mob though, it's all "too late" and "he doesn't mean it".

Fucking vile bullies.

@JasmineMac totally. I'm quite jaundiced and cynical but I could never have guessed just how terrible people would be.

I'm not surprised he's sought to apologise directly, anyone who has watched his documentaries will know that the word sorry is his most common utterance.

I personally don't think he should be apologising for the tic. I have the utmost respect for John though; whatever decision he makes won't change that.

He will emerge from this stronger and further respected. He's a national treasure in Scotland, always will be. Fuck the haters.