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To think ROSPA should make it clear that Older Driver Assessments might result in a loss of license?

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sprucinitup · 22/02/2026 19:27

An elderly relative was recently diagnosed with a medical condition which does not result in automatic loss of driving license, but nevertheless, his GP recommended that he undertake a free Older Driver Assessment, saying he thought it might be "helpful". He gave my relative a leaflet which also described the assessment as "helpful". My relative booked an assessment. It consisted of online cognitive tests and a practical driving assessment. At the end of this, my relative was told he was driving too hesitantly. But rather than offering the "re-training" mentioned in the leaflet, they removed his license.

He is understandably very upset about this, because he wasn't warned that loss of license was a potential outcome.

This is the website: https://www.olderdrivers.org.uk/driver-assessment/ . If there is info on there about loss of license then it must be well buried because I can't see it.

He is very responsible, and will of course accept the decision, but aibu to think that there should be a more transparent process, so that elderly folk don't feel tricked into giving up their license by stealth?

Driver Assessment | Older Drivers

Advice for older drivers to help them drive safely for longer.

https://www.olderdrivers.org.uk/driver-assessment

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Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 14:56

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:53

Well the impatient school run parents who get right up my friends arse while he is driving expecting him to break the speed limit certainly want him out of the way I live right opposite a school so see this regularly

If he's driving dangerously under the speed limit or dangerously hesitantly then he perhaps needs a driving safety check. If someone else is driving aggressively perhaps he should report them. Driving too slowly can be dangerous as can driving too hesitantly. If your friend is frequently having trouble with other drivers he may be the common denominator.

Why would anyone want legislation to take older people off the roads? It's utter nonsense

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:53

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 14:50

And why would anyone want that?

Well the impatient school run parents who get right up my friends arse while he is driving expecting him to break the speed limit certainly want him out of the way I live right opposite a school so see this regularly

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:51

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 14:47

Why would that happen? There's no reason to think it would.

This website alone is full of comments about how much traffic is on the roads and how much more damage its doing to the roads. Are seventeen to twenty four year olds going to be tested too? No because if they lose their licence they may lose their jobs which will add to the number of NEETS there already are. Dont treat the public like we are stupid

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 14:50

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:42

My concern is that it will be used to get older drivers off the road when they are perfectly safe to drive.

And why would anyone want that?

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 14:47

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:42

My concern is that it will be used to get older drivers off the road when they are perfectly safe to drive.

Why would that happen? There's no reason to think it would.

HPFA · 23/02/2026 14:46

GasPanic · 23/02/2026 12:49

This is a bit of a crazy way of looking at things. Let's not ban guns because people will murder with knives instead.

Taking the specific case, speeding is reckoned to be a factor in 30% of road accidents, so it appears there is significant scope for cognitive impairment and poor vision to take large % chunks out of the remaining 70%.

And yes of course that number of tests could be implemented if the government employed and trained up the right people. Or even implemented VR testing. It just doesn't want to.

And how much would that cost?

What is the likelihood that someone would experience a significant cognitive decline between the ages of 35 and 40?

I had a look at the major causes of road accidents on the gov website - they are speeding, not wearing a seat belt, phone use and other distractions, drink and drugs and then things like driving too close.

NONE of which would be affected by testing every five years. For the cost of that we could invest in things like cycle lanes and improved bus services which would have much more effect on road safety.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:42

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 14:41

Well, I'm sure people have talked before and yet there seems to be plenty of people here who don't know what the assessment might lead to. Also, perhaps there are some rational people around who realise that if they're assessed as unfit to drive, it would be a good idea all round to stop driving.

My concern is that it will be used to get older drivers off the road when they are perfectly safe to drive.

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 14:41

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:35

But it wont work for long will it because PEOPLE TALK

Well, I'm sure people have talked before and yet there seems to be plenty of people here who don't know what the assessment might lead to. Also, perhaps there are some rational people around who realise that if they're assessed as unfit to drive, it would be a good idea all round to stop driving.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:40

TigTails · 23/02/2026 14:38

It really doesn’t matter that he’s upset. It’s much more important that there’s one less unsafe driver on the roads.

I think it’s absolutely fine to “trick” people into assessments if it’s the difference between them being able to put themselves and others at risk and being prevented from doing so.

And unless you are going to get them to sign an NDA afterwards this wont work for long

And the absolute stinking hypocrisy when you look at the dangerous state of our roads

TigTails · 23/02/2026 14:38

It really doesn’t matter that he’s upset. It’s much more important that there’s one less unsafe driver on the roads.

I think it’s absolutely fine to “trick” people into assessments if it’s the difference between them being able to put themselves and others at risk and being prevented from doing so.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 14:35

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 14:30

That's hardly the same thing. Stopping someone from driving if they're not safe protects everyone- including the unsafe driver. So yes - it is helping them.

But it wont work for long will it because PEOPLE TALK

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 14:30

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 13:17

So when a work coach at the Job Centre says an appointment there is just to help you and then you suddenly end up with a sanction and had no idea that would happen or what youve done then thats OK then.

That's hardly the same thing. Stopping someone from driving if they're not safe protects everyone- including the unsafe driver. So yes - it is helping them.

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 14:11

WilfredsPies · 23/02/2026 14:10

But what possible adaptations could be suggested to improve reaction time, or drive less hesitantly, or anything else that comes with age?

Surely it’s common sense to realise that there will be things that nobody can help with, bar inventing a Time Machine, and to ask what happens in those circumstances. I would have thought it pretty obvious that any driving test or assessment recommended by a GP is going to be connected to the DVLA in some respect and that they aren’t just going to say ‘We don’t think you’re safe to be driving, but we’ll leave it to you to make a decision’.

Its not connected.

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 14:10

LarryUnderwood · 23/02/2026 13:34

I am fully in favour of drivers having their licenses revoked if they aren't up to snuff, but having looked at this website I have to agree with the OP - it is incredibly misleading. It suggests that the simple test is confidential and the detailed test is to identify weaknesses and suggest adaptations to help you drive for longer. Everything on this website that relates to stopping driving is framed as a personal decision unless the DVLA has told you to stop. It really needs to be clearer about the purpose and outcomes.

what you have said is why I think the OP hasn't told us the whole story and may not have the whole story themselves.

WilfredsPies · 23/02/2026 14:10

LarryUnderwood · 23/02/2026 13:34

I am fully in favour of drivers having their licenses revoked if they aren't up to snuff, but having looked at this website I have to agree with the OP - it is incredibly misleading. It suggests that the simple test is confidential and the detailed test is to identify weaknesses and suggest adaptations to help you drive for longer. Everything on this website that relates to stopping driving is framed as a personal decision unless the DVLA has told you to stop. It really needs to be clearer about the purpose and outcomes.

But what possible adaptations could be suggested to improve reaction time, or drive less hesitantly, or anything else that comes with age?

Surely it’s common sense to realise that there will be things that nobody can help with, bar inventing a Time Machine, and to ask what happens in those circumstances. I would have thought it pretty obvious that any driving test or assessment recommended by a GP is going to be connected to the DVLA in some respect and that they aren’t just going to say ‘We don’t think you’re safe to be driving, but we’ll leave it to you to make a decision’.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 13:48

An ONLINE driving test. OMG we have gone full dystopian

LarryUnderwood · 23/02/2026 13:34

I am fully in favour of drivers having their licenses revoked if they aren't up to snuff, but having looked at this website I have to agree with the OP - it is incredibly misleading. It suggests that the simple test is confidential and the detailed test is to identify weaknesses and suggest adaptations to help you drive for longer. Everything on this website that relates to stopping driving is framed as a personal decision unless the DVLA has told you to stop. It really needs to be clearer about the purpose and outcomes.

outdooryone · 23/02/2026 13:28

While I understand your relative thinks they were 'tricked', what did they expect from a process that is there to asses their safety to drive? Surely by definition by entering into such a process you voluntarily would surrender license if you were advised to give up driving?

Philandbill · 23/02/2026 13:18

The rules on older drivers need to be stricter. I say this from a personal perspective as my car was written off in the autumn by an 88 year old wearing thick glasses and whose reactions did not look good. It was absolutely his fault, he did a right turn straight into me at traffic lights. Police who attended were quick to see that. I hope very much he has stopped driving. He was in a large and powerful car which will also have been written off. I am still feeling the side effects of his inability to drive correctly as I am in pain. I have no faith in self certification.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 13:17

boxofbuttons · 23/02/2026 13:14

I don't know how anyone could see the name of something that made it explicitly clear that their driving was being assessed and not understand that if their driving under assessment wasn't up to scratch there was a potential that they'd no longer be able to drive, sorry.

So when a work coach at the Job Centre says an appointment there is just to help you and then you suddenly end up with a sanction and had no idea that would happen or what youve done then thats OK then.

boxofbuttons · 23/02/2026 13:14

I don't know how anyone could see the name of something that made it explicitly clear that their driving was being assessed and not understand that if their driving under assessment wasn't up to scratch there was a potential that they'd no longer be able to drive, sorry.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 13:14

This sneaky way of doing it wont work though will it Do we think the OPs FIL will just keep meekly quiet about this or will talk
PEOPLE TALK Word will get around about this.

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 13:11

ValidPistachio · 23/02/2026 13:02

In this case, removing the licence is also helping, and potentially saving the lives of, other people.

that's why I said same box but not identical

GasPanic · 23/02/2026 13:10

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 12:59

nope, they will be looking at the contents of the letter and the reason for the letter.

That's probably the reason why they are so ineffective at it if they don't triage the requests correctly.

To me it makes sense that a letter from a Dr or a road safety testing organisation should carry more weight than someone at random, who may have all sorts of nefarious reasons for wanting to get someones licence revoked.

A standardised reporting form would probably help as well.

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