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To think ROSPA should make it clear that Older Driver Assessments might result in a loss of license?

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sprucinitup · 22/02/2026 19:27

An elderly relative was recently diagnosed with a medical condition which does not result in automatic loss of driving license, but nevertheless, his GP recommended that he undertake a free Older Driver Assessment, saying he thought it might be "helpful". He gave my relative a leaflet which also described the assessment as "helpful". My relative booked an assessment. It consisted of online cognitive tests and a practical driving assessment. At the end of this, my relative was told he was driving too hesitantly. But rather than offering the "re-training" mentioned in the leaflet, they removed his license.

He is understandably very upset about this, because he wasn't warned that loss of license was a potential outcome.

This is the website: https://www.olderdrivers.org.uk/driver-assessment/ . If there is info on there about loss of license then it must be well buried because I can't see it.

He is very responsible, and will of course accept the decision, but aibu to think that there should be a more transparent process, so that elderly folk don't feel tricked into giving up their license by stealth?

Driver Assessment | Older Drivers

Advice for older drivers to help them drive safely for longer.

https://www.olderdrivers.org.uk/driver-assessment

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JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:44

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 19:43

Eyesight levels are for all age groups, medical conditions apply across all age groups, cognitive decline is a natural part of aging, it doesn't apply across all age groups. Age is a factor all its own.

It's why over 75s require licence renewal and why insurance is extortionate for teenagers. Age, experience and aging are all facts of life, why do you want to pretend they aren't?

I dont want to pretend anything FFS My DH quit driving and surrendered his licence just before his seventieth birthday. He had a heart attack when he was fifty six and afterwards the DVLA were informed and okayed him to carry on driving. He gave it up in early twenty twenty because the way others were driving were causing him stress and he was worried it would bring on another heart attack.

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 19:44

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:42

Why didnt he just phone the DVLA direct Surely they would take the word of a GP

Because he can't report that someone 'has a non reportable condition but may not be suitable to drive' he'd have to refer to relevant specialists and it would take months if the guy doesn't inform them himself and ask for cognitive testing.

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 19:43

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:38

Thats horrific Im so sorry. If made mandatory it should be for all age groups.

Eyesight levels are for all age groups, medical conditions apply across all age groups, cognitive decline is a natural part of aging, it doesn't apply across all age groups. Age is a factor all its own.

It's why over 75s require licence renewal and why insurance is extortionate for teenagers. Age, experience and aging are all facts of life, why do you want to pretend they aren't?

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:42

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 19:33

Yep and his GP realised that but also realised he was unfit to drive to took the only legal recourse he could.

Why didnt he just phone the DVLA direct Surely they would take the word of a GP

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 19:41

Cankerousa · 23/02/2026 19:29

Irrelevant.

If he was safe to drive, he would still be doing so. That decision has most likely saved lives.

If they do make it clearer (and consequently the selfish don't take it anymore) I hope it is also made mandatory at a certain age.

A selfish elderly man who didn't feel like taking a bus, as that would be 'losing his independance', left my sister a widow, and two small boys without a father. My brother in law was a hero, pushing his own family out of the way of the oncoming car.

That selfish, irresponsible prick didn't even brake because the low January sun had almost completely hazed his vision up due to his cataracts.

My sister saw her husbands crushed head in her nightmares for years.

I'm so sorry. These are exactly the things that happen and I swear I've seen people after an accident that caused real harm (because only reported if deaths usually) STILL raging that the game is up and they can't then keep driving after running someone over or driving into a front yard or front room

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:38

Cankerousa · 23/02/2026 19:29

Irrelevant.

If he was safe to drive, he would still be doing so. That decision has most likely saved lives.

If they do make it clearer (and consequently the selfish don't take it anymore) I hope it is also made mandatory at a certain age.

A selfish elderly man who didn't feel like taking a bus, as that would be 'losing his independance', left my sister a widow, and two small boys without a father. My brother in law was a hero, pushing his own family out of the way of the oncoming car.

That selfish, irresponsible prick didn't even brake because the low January sun had almost completely hazed his vision up due to his cataracts.

My sister saw her husbands crushed head in her nightmares for years.

Thats horrific Im so sorry. If made mandatory it should be for all age groups.

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 19:33

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:32

The FILs health condition is not one that is reportable to the DVLA

Yep and his GP realised that but also realised he was unfit to drive to took the only legal recourse he could.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:32

The FILs health condition is not one that is reportable to the DVLA

Cankerousa · 23/02/2026 19:29

Irrelevant.

If he was safe to drive, he would still be doing so. That decision has most likely saved lives.

If they do make it clearer (and consequently the selfish don't take it anymore) I hope it is also made mandatory at a certain age.

A selfish elderly man who didn't feel like taking a bus, as that would be 'losing his independance', left my sister a widow, and two small boys without a father. My brother in law was a hero, pushing his own family out of the way of the oncoming car.

That selfish, irresponsible prick didn't even brake because the low January sun had almost completely hazed his vision up due to his cataracts.

My sister saw her husbands crushed head in her nightmares for years.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 19:26

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 19:11

Why would informed consent be a good idea in order to stop someone driving who is a danger on the roads? What would you suggest if they insist on carrying on driving?

This has already been explained upthread. So there is no need to do the usual make someone type something out several times which seems to be a popular tactic on here.

Nice try though

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 19:11

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 18:37

Dont put words in my mouth. Informed consent is what was missing here and its already been discussed on this thread that in no other context would this be ok

Why would informed consent be a good idea in order to stop someone driving who is a danger on the roads? What would you suggest if they insist on carrying on driving?

apeaceful2026 · 23/02/2026 18:54

sprucinitup · 22/02/2026 22:16

This is the leaflet the GP gave him: https://www.olderdrivers.org.uk/media/1007/leaflet-male.pdf
It says: "A driving assessment can help you to identify how your driving is changing and what you can do to help you to continue driving safely for as longer ...These assessments are not a test, but an independent, friendly check of your strengths and weaknesses behind the wheel to help you to increase your ability and confidence on today’s roads"

There is a paragraph on recognising when it is time to retire from driving, which implies the assessment might help you make that decision, but what it should say is that they may make that decision for you by advising the DVLA that you are unfit to drive.

Fwiw, his health condition is not one that is reportable to the DVLA.

that's shocking, it literally makes it sound like it's just a helpful assessment to give you some tips. it definitely seems like they're taking older drivers off the road by stealth.

maybe the doctor actually did think it was a helpful referral, due to the nature of the information on the website.

WilfredsPies · 23/02/2026 18:52

@LarryUnderwood Yeah I’d definitely agree with you that it’s worded in a way that’s very encouraging and framed as a ‘Let us help you’ approach.

But surely the fact that they don’t refer to what happens if you fail their assessments would raise some suspicions?

WilfredsPies · 23/02/2026 18:46

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 17:31

the DVLA and the DFT are not connected to RoSPA

They’ve got the DfT logo on their website and they’re thanking them for financing it. I’d say that’s a connection of some sort. If you don’t agree, then fair enough. I’m not in the slightest bit interested in having a debate with you about it.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 18:37

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:35

But no one is taking his licence? Whether or not he is capable of online testing. Do you think medical and cognitive issues SHOULDNT disqualify anyone from driving is that it? People whoudk be allowed to drive around until they themselves see the issue?

Dont put words in my mouth. Informed consent is what was missing here and its already been discussed on this thread that in no other context would this be ok

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:35

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 18:33

I used him as an example as to why the online part wouldnt be fair Other posters didnt have a problem with it

But no one is taking his licence? Whether or not he is capable of online testing. Do you think medical and cognitive issues SHOULDNT disqualify anyone from driving is that it? People whoudk be allowed to drive around until they themselves see the issue?

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 18:33

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:32

Noone said your friend couldn't meet the visual requirements? As far as I'm aware no one was personally trying to suggest your friend shouldn't drive. Why are you taking this thread personally on your friends behalf? Noones taken his licence have they?

I used him as an example as to why the online part wouldnt be fair Other posters didnt have a problem with it

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:32

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 18:25

Thought you didnt get the relevance?

Noone said your friend couldn't meet the visual requirements? As far as I'm aware no one was personally trying to suggest your friend shouldn't drive. Why are you taking this thread personally on your friends behalf? Noones taken his licence have they?

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:30

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 18:26

not always.

If you don't meet the driving standards that means even with best corrected glasses so there is a problem with your eyes or brain stopping you meeting the vision requirements. What on earth do you mean not always?

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 18:26

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:21

People who don't meet them have eye conditions such as diabetic eye disease, macular degeration., glaucoma or a host of other conditions that cause loss of vision not correctable with glasses

not always.

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 18:25

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:21

People who don't meet them have eye conditions such as diabetic eye disease, macular degeration., glaucoma or a host of other conditions that cause loss of vision not correctable with glasses

Thought you didnt get the relevance?

godmum56 · 23/02/2026 18:23

StandingSideBySide · 23/02/2026 18:07

Yes good point
as someone whose worn glasses from my primary school years i suppose I hadn’t considered people not may realise they have failing eyesight.

it was a real shock. My husband told me I had come out of the examination room looking as white as a sheet, his first thought was that I had had terrible news about my sight.

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:21

StandingSideBySide · 23/02/2026 17:47

Thanks for that
just reading those eyesight requirements I’m amazed some people don’t meet them as they are tested whilst wearing glasses or contacts.

People who don't meet them have eye conditions such as diabetic eye disease, macular degeration., glaucoma or a host of other conditions that cause loss of vision not correctable with glasses

Barnbrack · 23/02/2026 18:20

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2026 17:23

Phoned my friend earlier to ask him how his yearly diabetes eye assesment went today. Absoloutely fine. No deterioration

I don't get the relevance?

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