To have said this to my cleaner?

But you say she is reliable and has never missed an appt and now she's suddenly not reliable?

Why is she no longer reliable?

I'm with the cleaner on this one. No way would I be cleaning cat sick or any other animal deposits.

And if it wasn't there the night before but was there on your way out, what exactly did you think it could be? How would a cupboard get dirty overnight?

I thought she just noticed that the door was dirty

Maybe she's not explicitly saying it and I've missed it. But that would be a terrible thing to just leave for the cleaner. So I don't really understand why OP is angry with the poor cleaner.

I agree with PP, I don’t think it’s acceptable to leave cat sick for your cleaner.

I hate the thought of leaving anything for the cleaners as it just isn’t fair! I always check my kids toilets and clear any toothpaste from the sink! It’s unfair to expect them to clean bodily fluids of people / animals.

I certainly would not be cleaning up cat sick if I were a cleaner.

She did notice the cat sick that morning but was apparently rushing so just left it there.

@wellwatnow do you want this cleaner back or don't you?

If you do want the cleaner back, surely the sensible thing to do is to message saying "I really apologise - I hadn't realised the cat had been sick. I did not leave it for you to clean up."

I'm a bit puzzled by that though. Surely you would've realised if the poor cat wasn't well.

It certainly is where I live. Good cleaners are very sought after, and have waiting lists. They can pick and choose their clients, one that I know won't take on any clients who have pets, because they create so much extra work.

errmmm 🤔

I read it like that too! 😀

As a man who has cleaned people's homes it's the attitude here that would get my back up. The snarky comment about the utility where it's clear the cat had been sick and it had been left for me to clean up, which is disrespectful. As if the op was saying that your the skivvy you do the disgusting things. Which is how I would have read her message.

I've had women leave their pants on the floor with sanitary towels in. I didn't go back to that house and blocked her and her husband. I may be "just" a cleaner to some people but there are limits to what I should be expected to do. Cleaning dried puke isn't included in acceptable btw

Well here’s the thing. People can charge what others are willing to pay. You don’t set the rules even though you think you can dictate that cleaners should be paid ‘minimum wage’.

You sound lovely.

I'm a S/E cleaner and I charge £30p/h. And I'm fully booked with a wait list. Why? Because good professional cleaners are hard to find and I am worth every bloody penny 😚

OP I wouldn't be coming back, you sound like you're hard work.

I cant wait for when for l somebody bring out a robot cleaner. Yes l know you can get a robot type machine to clean floors etc.

My own experience of local cleaners has not been that great.Even those sent by the Council and Social Services after l was discharged from a Rehab/Nursing home

They either turn op late if at all with no apology. They throw things in the bin without asking. And many cannot speak or understand English very well.

They want silly money per hour even if it is cash in hand person..You know doing it the side.

If l had a cleaner l certainly would not pay them £20 per hour., but a rate above to the minimum wage.Yes, London is more expensive..

I would also given them £5 per session travelling expenses and buy my own cleaning products.

Fair Deal?

Oh well the OP has gone because the thread didn’t go the way she wanted it to.

Ours does...he laughs that I'm so bothered by it...it doesn't phase him at all because he says finds it anyway when he digs...

I wouldn't get him to clear a garden full of dog turds though.

Absolutely clients come and go. Some clients can be very flakey and just lack the comprehension that we need to make a living.

My friend runs a successful small gardening business and is quite sought after as she produces and maintains amazing pots and perennial borders. She is very picky about who she now takes as a client and has deliberately set her fee at a rate to exclude chancers. Her clients seem to really look after her especially around her birthday and Christmas - let’s just say she gets more than a bottle of Prosecco.

I don’t blame @wellwatnow cleaner. I don’t give parents of students who a tutor a second chance - muck me about once without a valid reason shame on you but muck me about twice then shame on me. So the parents who took their child skiing for two weeks without telling me in spite of having arranged lessons are in for a surprise tomorrow.

i tutor A level. Self employed. No longer in a school. I am not on first name terms with parents, I get paid by bank transfer and so pay tax etc.

I am so disappointed that @EvangelicalAboutButteredToast wasn’t actually cleaning donkeys!

Wow it sounds like a sellers market, the cleaning business!

Imagine thinking a self employed cleaner on 20 quid an hour is rich. Words fail me

The amount of money you paid to get to work is irrelevant. The issue is that self employed people have to pay NI and taxes and travel from their hourly wage - therefore they don't get keeping the 20 quid an hour to themselves

You aren't getting my point. Self employed work is more insecure as I said in my previous post. People on self employed contracts need to set aside money from said twenty pounds an hour to pay taxes and NI contributions - not the same as having a salary on any level.

If you were self employed you might get it

… do you think I also didn’t have to pay to get to work (£300 a month) and pay taxes and NI?

Oh dear. Comprehension not your strong point.

Sorry what? Once more people who are self employed need to pay travel. Put aside money for taxes. Pay NI contributions. I was a self employed fitness instructor for years on 15-20 pounds an hour and I was far from rich. It's not the same as being on a salary - on any level!

And some cleaners and fitness instructors won't get 35 hours a week work - it's often insecure. Jesus fucking Christ what planet do you live on if you think 20 quid an hour self employed is a huge wage. It's not on any level