To stop nurse from giving me an Iv flush?

OP sending you love, and huge admiration for advocating for yourself so strongly even when you feel so poorly.

You are despicable. This is a woman with advanced cancer who is clearly gravely unwell and struggling, and you can't give her a bit of grace?
You should be ashamed.

Sending you love and strength OP. You are really going through to but hope you are okay x

I’m with OP on the sippy cup too. Someone who is too dim to work out who can drink from a normal cup and who doesn’t understand why sippy cups are strongly discouraged, doesn’t belong anywhere near IV lines. Sending you good wishes OP.

Thanks. I’m learning a lot from this thread! There had been nothing explaining this in the clinics that I’ve been to and the admin staff and medics that I’ve seen have all been in their own clothes.

So do all band 4’s wear a certain colour, and all band 5’s? Do bands dictate the uniform or roles (nurse / therapist / porter etc)?

And the thing is, she doesn’t see it.
Fascinating in a way to see how truly nasty people justify it to themselves.

Ok

Don’t apologise OP. You are clearly struggling and some of the people on the thread have been harsh. You have the right to choose who treats you. No one should have to put up with someone they don't feel comfortable with, more so when they are ill. Get well soon

@BudgetBuster You are truly despicable.

No... I agreed with her questioning the care.

I said there was no need for her nastiness about other aspects (complaining about the teacup, shouting at the nurse trying to help her get up, and being arsey to people who asked valid questions early in this thread).
I don't think it's reasonable to want respect whilst not giving it back.

I've said throughout that she should escalate the IV flush issue with more senior staff if she is unhappy with the care and suggested she also ask for a 2nd qualified staff member to be there for medical procedures if that would help.

I wouldn’t know what banding a nurse was, I’d only be able to tell if they were a HCA, nurse or doctor. However if you feel uncomfortable with the band 4, you are free to ask for someone else.

@EachandEveryone 💕
I am sorry that there are some bloody hideous people on this thread that obviously have no idea what you are going through.
I wish I lived nearer you and would visit and advocate for you, I know you are more than capable of doing this yourself, but when you are ill it is so wearing. Sending you lots of love

Omg @BudgetBuster you are disgusting.

Are you actually saying that a distressed woman with cancer who is rightly questioning her substandard and dangerous care, is being ‘a cunt’?

You are an absolutely disgusting specimen. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I could not care less if you agree or not. I am right and the OP is right, as are all the other qualified nurses on this post. Stop accusing @EachandEveryone💕 of being rude FFS. She is quite entitled to her views and they are not at all unreasonable. Who do you think you are anyway? Calling a very ill person rude. That is the height of bad manners. You sound like a cunt. Is that rude enough for you?

Really, can they give antibiotics, chemo, blood, fluids, take bloods?

band 4 nursing associates can flush an IV and do everything except give morphine

edit. Seen it’s a picc line. Not a chance would they be able to flush that

YANBU. Hospitals have grades for a reason. The nurse may be qualified in a different country but if she isn't that grade here then you don't have peace of mind and the hospital are exposed if there is an adverse outcome.

Sorry you are having such a rough time.

I currently have a picc line and I have found that outside of the chemo units and wards staff are not confident in dealing with them. Given that it is direct access to a vein, I agree that it is very stressful if you don’t have trust that the person working with it knows exactly what they are doing.

I may be wrong, but I believe staff are required to complete a specific course before dealing with picc lines.

OP I hope you feel better soon

Sending you ALL the love OP. I hope you feel more comfortable and get some resolution soon. You are amazing. 💐

YANBU, a Band 4 cannot flush a PICC line.
Also, yes, if you work in healthcare you can tell what band someone is. A bit worrying that she said it was ok because was was allowed in her own country.

Tell me you've never been in hospital with cancer and an infection without telling me you've never been in hospital with cancer and an infection.

I told an HCA to fuck off and leave me alone once. I won't go into all the details but she had done three things which could have caused serious problems.

This thread is scaring me. I'm due to have a PICC line fitted in about three weeks' time and after that I will be an inpatient and possibly completely incapacitated, (both physically and mentally,) for a while, so I will be completely at the mercy of the staff.

I totally agree and I hate the attitude of they're just doing their job so don't question. We have a right to ask questions about our care and disagree with anything we're unhappy with. Telling people not to do that is what allows medical abuse to happen.

OP is obviously ill, let’s not pick apart her every word hey?

Do you think OP should keep quiet when feeling incredibly uncomfortable at being manhandled without consent? To avoid hurting feelings?

You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about so if I were you, I’d stop. All you are doing is increasing the upset for this poor woman who is ill in hospital. Have some compassion.

Well the OP called her a nurse in the bloody thread title...

Again, no issues with telling her not to do the procedure. But shouting at her not to stand so close and complaining about the cup she got of tea plus complaining about the "Band 4" trying to help her up. There's very easy ways of saying "I don't need help, thanks" or "I can manage a proper cup"

She's well able to go on Mumsnet complaining but can't voice that she's more capable than obviously the staff think?