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MissMoneyFairy · 22/02/2026 22:40

MoreHairyThanScary · 22/02/2026 22:35

I agree with you op ( if you work in healthcare and have been in system for a while you can work out bandings quite easily). As far as I am aware regardless of her registration elsewhere she shouldn’t be administering IV’s as a band 4 nurse. If you have the opportunity I would raise it with the ward manager

B4 nursing associates can give some iv meds if they have been trained and work under the supervision of an rn, they are governed by the nmc. It also depends on each Trust.

Dymaxion · 22/02/2026 22:35

Has she done the Picc line training ? Does the Trust policy support band 4's doing this particular task ?

Our band 3's give insulin and give s/c injections such as enoxaparin on their own without anyone else to check, change routine catheters and apply compression bandaging. However they have received training and have to have been deemed competent before doing any of the above.

MoreHairyThanScary · 22/02/2026 22:35

I agree with you op ( if you work in healthcare and have been in system for a while you can work out bandings quite easily). As far as I am aware regardless of her registration elsewhere she shouldn’t be administering IV’s as a band 4 nurse. If you have the opportunity I would raise it with the ward manager

littlebilliie · 22/02/2026 22:33

I had a nurse burst a vein in my arm I refused to let her near me again as she was very careless and put the treatment in too quickly.

whereisitnow · 22/02/2026 22:09

She’s only qualified in this country if her certificate checks out with the NMC.

BudgetBuster · 22/02/2026 22:09

EachandEveryone · 22/02/2026 20:37

Ive said it a thousand times😃 im beginning to think she doesnt understand my accent or shevhas hearing issues.

If you are still unhappy with the care, can you request to speak to the Nurse in Charge in the morning and politely tell her that if your concerns aren't listened to and dealt with you will lodge a written complaint?

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EachandEveryone · 22/02/2026 22:06

I promise you this isn’t anywhere near my vagina it’s a hole in my groin at the top of my leg. Some say it’s the tumour that’s broken through my skin then some are saying it’s an abcess. It absolutely stunk but the antibiotics have stopped that. Any bag with any weight on it isn’t going to hold but I don’t think I can go back to using pads again.

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To stop nurse from giving me an Iv flush?

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IwishIcouldconfess · 22/02/2026 22:06

ToffeePennie · 22/02/2026 22:01

I remember it like that. It probably wasn’t that extreme, but like I said - major white coat syndrome. My BP was skyrocketing and I was hysterically crying before she came in.

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So you were being dramatic!

NotanNHSnurseanymore · 22/02/2026 22:03

ClassicalQueen · 22/02/2026 15:48

I wouldn’t know what banding a nurse was, I’d only be able to tell if they were a HCA, nurse or doctor. However if you feel uncomfortable with the band 4, you are free to ask for someone else.

A band 4 by definition is not a nurse.

It's not a question of the OP being uncomfortable with a band 4 doing it, the band 4 is not qualified to do so.

ToffeePennie · 22/02/2026 22:01

IwishIcouldconfess · 22/02/2026 21:49

Screaming. ...really??
They couldn't have just taken another sample?

Such drama!

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I remember it like that. It probably wasn’t that extreme, but like I said - major white coat syndrome. My BP was skyrocketing and I was hysterically crying before she came in.

Lougle · 22/02/2026 21:52

EachandEveryone · 22/02/2026 09:33

I don’t know maybe I was. I don’t gel with her anyway she’s a band 4 with no sense of personal space. This morning she woke me up with her face in mine it really made me jump. Them proceeded to
hrlp me sit up o am not a complete invalid and she had me in a hold right next to her bust. I literally shouted that police song Don’t Stamd so close to me. She’s been on am hour and now she’s been in 9 times. Jesus I have to
jsve a shower and it’s her I’ve asked for some omelet as well.

Sou picc line needed flushing she went off and drew something up and tried to flush I syopprd her straight away and said she wasn’t qualified to flush long lines and I don’t know what was in it. She said she’s qualified on her own country for years. I’m a nurse, the band five came in flushed it and said the four can flush as she’s qualified at home. Am o wrong then? They are all lovely and trying their best but I just thought I don’t know what I are putting on me and it needs to be done sterile.

i will have a think about the personal space thing as it’s a difficult one she could be horrible to me

@EachandEveryone did she have a dressing pack, alcohol wipes, etc? You'll know that a sterile non-touch technique is used for a PICC, so if she really did just go and grab a flush, that's quite concerning.

I think you need to raise the personal care issue formally, if you can. You don't want someone touching your intimate areas and you don't need it.

Is your wound too shallow for a vac dressing?

Sorry you're so poorly.

IwishIcouldconfess · 22/02/2026 21:49

ToffeePennie · 22/02/2026 21:45

Trust your instincts. I was in anestetics being prepped for surgery; I knew something would go wrong so I asked them to not flush my line until the last moment. I suffer white coat syndrome massively, so they did what I said to keep my blood pressure down.
2 seconds later someone ran in screaming that the path lab hadn’t accepted my blood sample and therefore to cancel surgery.
Luckily - my unflushed line provided enough blood to allow the procedure to proceed.

Screaming. ...really??
They couldn't have just taken another sample?

Such drama!

ToffeePennie · 22/02/2026 21:45

Trust your instincts. I was in anestetics being prepped for surgery; I knew something would go wrong so I asked them to not flush my line until the last moment. I suffer white coat syndrome massively, so they did what I said to keep my blood pressure down.
2 seconds later someone ran in screaming that the path lab hadn’t accepted my blood sample and therefore to cancel surgery.
Luckily - my unflushed line provided enough blood to allow the procedure to proceed.

IwishIcouldconfess · 22/02/2026 21:41

ShouldKnowBetterButNeverLearn · 22/02/2026 13:54

So sorry for what you are going through.
I'm a RN as well, they should be flushing the PICC line under sterile conditions.
Especially when you are immuno-compromised.
You are right to insist on this and speak to someone senior.
Just because someone can do something " in their own country "- they should not just be allowed to go ahead here.
I don't know where you are but I've only came across a few band 4s where I am and they weren't allowed to give IVs.

They should have been assessed and given training in this hospital to ensure they are competent.
This has happened to me starting in a new hospital even though I'd been giving IV drugs for years.

Hoping you are soon feeling a bit better and things improve.

As a nurse, you should know , nothing is sterile....on the ward, that is why we do ANTT......

FranticFrankie · 22/02/2026 20:46

Band 4 is likely to be a Nursing Associate as band 5 is an RGN (registered nurse)
Speak to the nurse in charge if you're not happy with any aspect of your care

Hope you are feeling better soon OP 💐

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 20:46

MissMoneyFairy · 22/02/2026 20:35

The difference is the staff are not random people, ideally you just say please give me some space I can manage thanks but op is under a lot of stress and seemingly little things can feel very overwhelming.

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They aren't personal friends so yes they are random people. And they should ASK if help needed rather than manhandling someone

FirstdatesFred · 22/02/2026 20:44

i’m in two minds - we’d all like to think that all hospital staff are great, competent and professional. But sadly anyone who has been around hospitals personally or professionally knows that’s not the case so I don’t blame you for questioning. Having said that there is a way to do it politely - if you get their backs up you risk being labelled “difficult” - it shoudnt make a difference to the care you get but….

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EachandEveryone · 22/02/2026 20:38

MissMoneyFairy · 22/02/2026 20:29

Now that the b5 has seen how uncomfortable you feel there is no need for you to have 2 staff for personal care, the nic can allocate someone else to look after you. All the best for tomorrow, are you getting any treatment for the fluid loss, it's over 2l a day.

I was on iv but thats stopped since the started IM insulin. They do bloods every day.

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EachandEveryone · 22/02/2026 20:37

Ive said it a thousand times😃 im beginning to think she doesnt understand my accent or shevhas hearing issues.

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MissMoneyFairy · 22/02/2026 20:35

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 20:31

But people are allowed personal space aren't they. Imagine sitting on a bus and someone randomly comes up to you and pulls you up. What's the difference?

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The difference is the staff are not random people, ideally you just say please give me some space I can manage thanks but op is under a lot of stress and seemingly little things can feel very overwhelming.

Safxxx · 22/02/2026 20:33

EachandEveryone · 22/02/2026 09:46

Yeah I’m riddled with cancer and have a massive infection. I think it’s playing with my mind! I honestly thought two people had to check.

Wishing you a full recovery 🙏

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 20:31

BudgetBuster · 22/02/2026 15:48

No... I agreed with her questioning the care.

I said there was no need for her nastiness about other aspects (complaining about the teacup, shouting at the nurse trying to help her get up, and being arsey to people who asked valid questions early in this thread).
I don't think it's reasonable to want respect whilst not giving it back.

I've said throughout that she should escalate the IV flush issue with more senior staff if she is unhappy with the care and suggested she also ask for a 2nd qualified staff member to be there for medical procedures if that would help.

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But people are allowed personal space aren't they. Imagine sitting on a bus and someone randomly comes up to you and pulls you up. What's the difference?

MissMoneyFairy · 22/02/2026 20:29

Now that the b5 has seen how uncomfortable you feel there is no need for you to have 2 staff for personal care, the nic can allocate someone else to look after you. All the best for tomorrow, are you getting any treatment for the fluid loss, it's over 2l a day.

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EachandEveryone · 22/02/2026 20:21

So ive had a shower sitting on the chair with this band 4 and my band 5 this is the second time ive been with both of them and the band five knows somethings up as ive quietly mentioned it before. This to me is invading my personal space. I told the band five i would wash my own bits as i didnt want the bag disturbing ( this was a lie) so the shower is fine i repeat ill wash my own privates and im sat on the chair and her hand is down the back of my bum i move out of the way and take over then im dry the cream is out she says shall i do your breasts i say no put it in my hand and the band five says put it in her hand so while im doing one giant boob she starts to do the other! I think she is treating me like im care of the elderly. Maybe i should just be glad of the attention but at least it was infrontnof someone.

i had the bag changed this evening that was painful there was loads of old glue attached to my skin.

tomorrow is another day hopefully my giant leg can be sorted out and my insulin.Fingers crossed.

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Ponoka7 · 22/02/2026 19:26

Floatlikeafeather2 · 22/02/2026 13:06

I've spent plenty of time hanging about in hospitals, thanks. They've been spread over several trusts and I can say, without hesitation, that I have never come across any such thing. Some departments have had photographs of the staff, giving their names and titles but nothing about uniforms.

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What hospitals? It's really unusual if they haven't got what the staff uniforms mean.