Area gone to shit, feel forced to move 😪

Agree. The problem is that there is an enormous imbalance in the number of people that don't have any respect for others or where they live anymore.

There have always been dispectful scumbags but now they're starting to outnumber decent people and the effects of their actions is getting more and more visible.

So many threads like this, a few variations on the theme, and all in the week leading up to a by-election which Reform are hoping to win. I wonder what the link might be? 🤔

Poverty doesn't cause men to spit red tobacco in the street while leering at women. And we've never been richer - people lived in far more poverty in ie the 1920s without there being the problems described by the OP

You don’t support the removal of illegal immigrants?

Because you've not experienced anti-Semitism, even though you're not Jewish, you don't think it exists?

The only reason it feels coordinated is because the same problem is cropping up all over.

Oh yes, it's going to be so great when Reform get into power and introduce their own version of ICE to keep our streets pearly white. 🙄

Just looked this up and banks own almost no blocks of flats in the UK. Only Lloyds has gone into property ownership on any meaningful scale, and even then it only owns about 7,500 flats altogether in the UK

YANBU OP.

It's very boring people jumping on here squawking about racism when you're just pointing out facts and you have to be blind not to have seen the general decline of the UK.

Littering, respect for others, anti social behaviour. Yes it all existed before but it seems to have sky rocketed in the last few years. It really is a scary decline.

My mum's road for eg, approx 75% privately owned has rapidly gone downhill in the last few years. I remember it from 35/40 years ago when I grew up there and you'd hardly believe it was the same road. It used to be leafy, quiet and safe for us all to play out. I'd say the ratio of council tenants Vs private owners is about the same as it was then but the behaviour and respect from the council tenants has nose dived (they're all different families there now).

The police were NEVER up that road before and now they're there weekly. Rubbish everywhere, screaming, drinking and drug use and total disprect for anyone or where they live.

I will add that the scum that have destroyed that particular area are all white British.

I honestly despair for this country. I can't think of one thing that is better than it was 20 years ago. Work/life ratio, state of the roads, simply trying to drive around the country or park your car, public transport, shit appliances that don't last more than a couple of years, the state of the NHS, schools. And on and on. Everything is worse 😢

And yet to even voice this is asking for trouble. Sad times when people can't have thoughts or feelings

I am not very young but you are clearly not keeping up with the times if you think that what went in the '70s or 80s' is appropriate today.

Hum, let's see what google says:

Asians are individuals with heritage tracing to any of the diverse ethnic, national, or racial groups within the continent of Asia, which is broadly divided into East, Southeast, South, Central, and Western regions. This diverse population includes over 60% of the world's population, with distinct cultural, linguistic, and regional identities often simplified into regional groupings.

But they are all good people in the neighborhood under discussion.

Or is this what is meant?

In the UK, "Asian" often refers to people from South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), while in the US, it commonly refers to East and Southeast Asian descent (China, Japan, Korea, Philippines, etc.).

Then I am happy to hear that the Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi community in that neighborhood is living together happily (well, apart from the white drug dealers)

Disclaimer: I have way more foreign (born) friends/family than white British.

Mass migration didn't start until the late 1990s

Ok dear. Over and out.

I am not misinterpreting you at all.
'Anti semitism is a waste of energy, brain power and time'.
That IS anti semitism.

Have been having exactly the same conversation with family today. We live in a London suburb (less than 20 miles from the city centre) and the changes are identical. It's not pleasant living here anymore

London has always been made up of transient communities .. from French Huguenots, through the Irish, East Asian, West Indian moments if the 20th Century, to Eastern Europeans of the 21st Century .. people immigrating into a country will move to a city, because that’s where they will find work / housing / other people from the same community.

The ones you are talking about are working (good for them) - when I lived in a HMO as a student, we were all about partying & late nights, we must have been awful neighbours.

London isn’t the rest of the country .. at the last census the bit if the country I am in is 99% white - we have issues with very much home grown crime. A Sex Gang was recently prosecuted abd jailed, all white men.

That’s because the decent ones moved out already (whoever could), the rest is avoiding the town centre.
I’ve seen this happen, too.

I’m not convinced they will ever govern, but at least a healthy Reform party will keep Labour under pressure to do what the vast majority of British people want, which is to reduce poor quality immigration to zero.

I think you are massively misinterpreting my intentions here.

I am not Jewish. I am saying that I have lived 60 years without being affected by anyone's Jewishness and that being antisemitic is a waste of energy, brainpower and time. I'm saying I just don't get it.

You can protest as much as you like - I simply have nothing against Jews 🤷🏻

The perils of uncontrolled immigration. But if you dare call it out, you are a racist apparently. No wonder Reform will be the next government.

Yes. I literally meant everyone.
I was including the OP.
Also, I really would like to know if anyone has alternative suggestions for housing people who can't afford to buy or rent a flat or house?
Im autistic, not being disingenuous.

I think people must be able to talk about their areas changing. On Mumsnet in the past I’ve noticed people immediately get called racist for bringing it up. But I feel if people can’t discuss it they’ll get pushed into the arms of Reform or worse. We used to have some issues in our area of east London with Algerian men at street cafes leering and cat calling to women walking past at night. Some used to take a longer route home to avoid it. Of course no one was saying ‘all Algerian men do this’ etc. in the end the police cracked down on it. I also remember a problem in our area where people resident in HMO seemed to be locked out during the day. No idea what that was about. But of course they had no option but to roam around during the day, drinking in the parks and as no toilet facilities (budget cuts) unfortunately having to go to the toilet behind a bush etc.