…to suggest that it’s time the Royal family stands on its own feet and stops taking money from the public purse?

Looking forward to hearing royalist justifications for the taxpayer paying for prince Andrew to be wanked off

If they stopped charging rent on lifeboat stations it would be a start 😡

This is where our money goes..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr232j8kgvo

One trivial thing that really pisses me off is the cost of changing notes and coins to the King's image/head. It's the little things. And that dirge of a depressing sycophantic anthem needs to go too.

Off to take my calming meds now if anyone is interested.

I seriously doubt the number of tourist will be remotely affected because Kate has decided to jump in her luxury car to spend 15mn in a local school and pose for the photos, close enough so she doesn't miss her morning yoga and her afternoon photography lesson or whatever she's doing entertain herself.

Unless it's a sports event she follows anyway, she really doesn't like to waste too much time on public even, and neither does Will.

One trivial thing that really pisses me off is the cost of changing notes and coins to the King's image/head. It's the little things. And that dirge of a depressing sycophantic anthem needs to go too.

Off to take my calming meds now if anyone is interested.

The nhs funded homeopathy since 1948 ie since its inception
As an alternative medicine that very little was known about
Not because of Charles
because
1948 was the year of Charles’s birth !

The nhs stopped around 2017/18 after it was found to be ineffective

So they didn’t start funding it because of Charles and stopped irrespective of his support of it.

We should have an opt in system for funding - a separate tax code for all of you who want to pay towards the monarchy. I’ll opt out thanks 😀

And the “politics of envy” argument is so tired - no envy, I just want to live in a grown up democracy where people aren’t given enormous power, wealth and influence due to an accident of birth. It really is that simple.

The royal family costs £1.29 per person per year. Is that really that bad?

Until 2018 about £215m from the NHS was given to various homeopathic institutes despite no peer reviewed data proving their efficacy. This was solely due to lobbying by Prince Charles because of his belief in alternative medicine. So how do the Royal family have such influence and have the power to spaff taxpayer’s cash on their whims and desires?

Andrew had less power than Mandelson.

It has nothing to do with jealousy or big inherited houses. And their big houses were bought using tax payer money. I can't see any argument why a family worth billions should be having their private homes renovated (amner Hall, Kensington Palace apartments) at a cost to the tax payer.

It is about how we in a modern democratic society have people in hereditary positions of power. Who have vast amounts of private property and finances that are at a cost to the tax payer. They can't be held to account at the ballot box so they are open to misuse of power, something we have seen very clearly from Andrew. They have hidden expenses such as security and costs to cash strapped Council to fund some of these costs.

They might bring money in, but it's a sum hardly worth shouting about. I want a society where we are citizens not "subjects" and where there is more equality and more in tune with a modern society. We cannot argue we are fair, equal or modern society while we continue to have the Royal family we do.

It has nothing to do with jealousy or big inherited houses. And their big houses were bought using tax payer money. I can't see any argument why a family worth billions should be having their private homes renovated (amner Hall, Kensington Palace apartments) at a cost to the tax payer.

It is about how we in a modern democratic society have people in hereditary positions of power. Who have vast amounts of private property and finances that are at a cost to the tax payer. They can't be held to account at the ballot box so they are open to misuse of power, something we have seen very clearly from Andrew. They have hidden expenses such as security and costs to cash strapped Council to fund some of these costs.

They might bring money in, but it's a sum hardly worth shouting about. I want a society where we are citizens not "subjects" and where there is more equality and more in tune with a modern society. We cannot argue we are fair, equal or modern society while we continue to have the Royal family we do.

It has nothing to do with jealousy or big inherited houses. And their big houses were bought using tax payer money. I can't see any argument why a family worth billions should be having their private homes renovated (amner Hall, Kensington Palace apartments) at a cost to the tax payer.

It is about how we in a modern democratic society have people in hereditary positions of power. Who have vast amounts of private property and finances that are at a cost to the tax payer. They can't be held to account at the ballot box so they are open to misuse of power, something we have seen very clearly from Andrew. They have hidden expenses such as security and costs to cash strapped Council to fund some of these costs.

They might bring money in, but it's a sum hardly worth shouting about. I want a society where we are citizens not "subjects" and where there is more equality and more in tune with a modern society. We cannot argue we are fair, equal or modern society while we continue to have the Royal family we do.

So if the issue has Nothing to do with cost as it’s been proved they bring money into the economy
Lets not use that as an argument to get rid of them

I haven’t commented on loss of income I posted that it’s not the case. That comment refers to another poster

The actual issue seems to be people living in big houses they inherited and hence…envy
I really don’t have an issue with what other people have.

In terms of paying more tax. I’m aware the issue of certain taxed eg cgtax and IHT was debunked by Govn in the past as to impose these would mean a loss of the RF over time and hence a loss in revenue.

Im not a Monarchist personally. Being an Irish Catholic easily explains that.
I am a realist and don’t believe in shooting my self in the foot because I’m jealous of others.
I didn’t agree in the tax on education, another envy policy and
I didn’t vote Brexit either, another stupid idea costing the country.

All in all
If it continuously makes money why get rid of it
If it continuously losses money then it’s worth a rethink

It's not just about tourism although that does need to be part of the discussion. Hopefully a discussion that is not generated by AI! It would be good to have clear and open parliamentary discussions about tourism, finance in general, a proper stocktake. Then with that all added up look to constitutional considerations.

We do need to do something though, clearly we can't continue as we were before the revelations.

It's also ridiculous that Monarchists use it as an argument too, given they've no evidence that tourism would decline if the Royal Family was abolished as people are just visiting the buildings.

It works both ways.